Godstud wrote:Good for you. I can respect where you come from Verv, but not what you are saying.
Here's the problem, @Verv. You view everything thru the lens of your faith/belief. You are quick to tell other that their feelings or thoughts are "wrong", but can't accept that yours might be, due to that bias of religious faith.
You have no bias due to your atheism, though, Mister Hubris, "right"?
[quotee]This is not to say that others are trying to get you to doubt your faith, but to only accept that you (sic) faith doesn't have all the answers, and that there is morality, irrespective of religion. [/quote]
YOUR ATHEISM has all the answers and they were duly expressed by Lenin, Stalin, and Chairman Mao, all of whom murdered millions and eschewed Nature's God. What is the basis of your so-called "morality" is always your supreme intellect and self-proclaimed goodness.
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Humans create morality/values, etc., within their societies so that they may function effectively. This happens regardless of religious persuasion, or lack thereof.[/quote]
Today's "educators," far left-wing psychopaths, are brainwashing children into homosexuality, changing sex, and fear off everything. This helps society "function effectively" how, exactly?
You're white. Many of your fellow Leftists want all whites dead and out of the way. How "moral" and "effective".
People looking to Hitler(Hitler used Christianity often in his speeches, incidentally) and Stalin as example of Atheist morality, is as absurd as looking to the Inquisition, the Crusades, and Salem Witch Burnings, for Christian morality.
Hitler appealed to the people, with lies. Lies form the basis of all things atheist. Hitler lied that Germans were the supreme race. Atheists now lie that they/you are the supreme race and your morality is a complete fabrication, without foundation.
I am not Christian. I will not steal from you, kill you, lie to you, cheat on my wife, disrespect elders, etc.,
Your atheism is an utter disrespect for America's Founding Fathers, an utter and sinful disrespect for your Creator, Nature's God, named in our Declaration of Independence and amusingly named on every penny of currency you ever spent in America.
My son isn't religious. He will learn this same values and morality as I have not because of religion, but because it is taught by me, and reinforced by the society that we live in.
Maybe he wants to change to female. This is Leftist "science" in action.
Now, you can believe that your god is doing that. That's fine. Just don't argue it as an established fact. It's what you believe, because of your religious faith.
YOU argue that atheism is an established fact, relentlessly, condescendingly, arrogantly, without any proof, hopelessly reliant on mendacity and the Magic Nothing which you pretend created science and nature. You do all this because of your religious faith, atheism. The Supreme Court has adjudicated that atheism is a religion, scream and holler all you wish.