- 12 Jun 2023 02:33
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Nice cherry pick. Hirsuteness and male pattern baldness are more common symptoms. And, I know you will be happy to know, that even it is was a major cause of obesity, and it is not, it is very easy to treat the insulin resistance that some experience and which may lead to obesity in those not aware of their condition. And while we are on the subject, lets look at your list:
Very easy to treat.
Sort of thought you were joking here. So one of the major treatments of this condition is weight loss. It is not only one of the causes, it is one of the cures.
Could not be easier to treat.
What medications? Easy to fix.
Nice excuse for not taking care of yourself.
Which ones cause obesity? I am waiting.
So fat people are crazy? Please.
Which cancers cause obesity?
What does this mean? Being raised in or living in an environment that encourages obesity? You mean like the US and most of the rest of the world?
And we have covered this before. NOBODY HERE ESPECIALLY GODSTUD. MISTY AND I are saying that obesity is fair. Lots of things are unfair. Some people can't be pilots because they have bad eyes. Genetics. Some people are very short. Genetics. On and on.
So for some people loosing weight is harder than for others. Sucks to have this problem and to overcome it to have to work harder. But here is the thing. Nobody here, especially Godstud, Misty and I are saying that it is not OK for someone to decide to be obese. That is their choice. They should not be denigrated for it. But not-denigrating them does not include absolving them from the responsibility of their choices.
I may be able to lose weight very easily. (Not so but...) Another person may have to work harder. Yet another can't seem to gain weight no matter what they do. But we are responsible for every bite we put in our mouths and every minute we spend with our feet on our desk.
Recently I noticed that my blood sugar was creeping up. It tends to do that when one gets older I am told. So I took steps. I went to whole wheat when I eat bread at all. I stopped eating sweets. Almost completely as a matter of fact. Cut down on calories. And I extended my daily walk to an hour or more; and more briskly I might add. Lo and behold, my A1C dropped well into the normal range. But I had a choice. I could have gotten metformin, continued to eat irresponsibly and consider myself just another victim of old age.
Let me tell you about my wonderful dinner I just had. A HUGE salad of power greens from Costco. Fresh blueberries. Fresh raspberries. Fresh Grapes. Sliced tomatoes. Two moderate slices of Cabernet infused cheese. A couple of tablespoons of vinegar, olive oil, lemon juice and tarragon dressing. A salad the size of a dinner plate piled high. Ice tea no sugar. (Made in the Arizona sun. Its a local thing.) I am full as I can be with stuff that is pretty good for me. I understand that my salad is not inexpensive to make at home. There is probably $5 worth of stuff on it. It was a choice.
If I had any of the diseases you mention above I could have chosen to make this meal. My wife (slim and trim as she is) had the same thing by the way but if she had wanted something else I would have made it for her.
Get my point? I did not make this salad because I am anything "phobic". No obese people were harmed in the making of my choice. I did not run over any obese people during my hour walk following the meal. And, I will have a snack later this evening. I will have a sliced apple, a little peanut butter on it and maybe a small glass of milk or some yogurt.
Tell me again what is wrong with my choices and who is the bastard who is keeping others from making similar choices. (Of course economics and supply allowing.)
Agent Steel wrote:@Godstud I have heard you and Dr. Lee claim several times now that medical conditions that cause obesity are very rare and are just exceptions to the rule. On page 1 you wrote "Obesity due to medical problems is an extremely small minority(less than 1%)". I don't think that's true.
Do you know how many women suffer from polycystic ovary syndrome. Well, let's find out.
"PCOS is one of the most common causes of female infertility, affecting 6% to 12% (as many as 5 million) of US women of reproductive age."
To be honest I didn't even know what it was until someone told me about it. That's quite a lot of people, don't you think?
And that is just one of MANY types of conditions that cause obesity.
So I think you're wrong when you say that these cases are merely "exceptions".
Nice cherry pick. Hirsuteness and male pattern baldness are more common symptoms. And, I know you will be happy to know, that even it is was a major cause of obesity, and it is not, it is very easy to treat the insulin resistance that some experience and which may lead to obesity in those not aware of their condition. And while we are on the subject, lets look at your list:
1. Hypothyroidism
Very easy to treat.
2. Polycystic Ovary Syndrome
Sort of thought you were joking here. So one of the major treatments of this condition is weight loss. It is not only one of the causes, it is one of the cures.
3. Low Testosterone
Could not be easier to treat.
4. Medications
What medications? Easy to fix.
5. Peri-menopause
Nice excuse for not taking care of yourself.
6. Physical Disabilities
Which ones cause obesity? I am waiting.
7. Mental Illness
So fat people are crazy? Please.
8. Cancer
Which cancers cause obesity?
10. Environment
What does this mean? Being raised in or living in an environment that encourages obesity? You mean like the US and most of the rest of the world?
9. Genetics
And we have covered this before. NOBODY HERE ESPECIALLY GODSTUD. MISTY AND I are saying that obesity is fair. Lots of things are unfair. Some people can't be pilots because they have bad eyes. Genetics. Some people are very short. Genetics. On and on.
So for some people loosing weight is harder than for others. Sucks to have this problem and to overcome it to have to work harder. But here is the thing. Nobody here, especially Godstud, Misty and I are saying that it is not OK for someone to decide to be obese. That is their choice. They should not be denigrated for it. But not-denigrating them does not include absolving them from the responsibility of their choices.
I may be able to lose weight very easily. (Not so but...) Another person may have to work harder. Yet another can't seem to gain weight no matter what they do. But we are responsible for every bite we put in our mouths and every minute we spend with our feet on our desk.
Recently I noticed that my blood sugar was creeping up. It tends to do that when one gets older I am told. So I took steps. I went to whole wheat when I eat bread at all. I stopped eating sweets. Almost completely as a matter of fact. Cut down on calories. And I extended my daily walk to an hour or more; and more briskly I might add. Lo and behold, my A1C dropped well into the normal range. But I had a choice. I could have gotten metformin, continued to eat irresponsibly and consider myself just another victim of old age.
Let me tell you about my wonderful dinner I just had. A HUGE salad of power greens from Costco. Fresh blueberries. Fresh raspberries. Fresh Grapes. Sliced tomatoes. Two moderate slices of Cabernet infused cheese. A couple of tablespoons of vinegar, olive oil, lemon juice and tarragon dressing. A salad the size of a dinner plate piled high. Ice tea no sugar. (Made in the Arizona sun. Its a local thing.) I am full as I can be with stuff that is pretty good for me. I understand that my salad is not inexpensive to make at home. There is probably $5 worth of stuff on it. It was a choice.
If I had any of the diseases you mention above I could have chosen to make this meal. My wife (slim and trim as she is) had the same thing by the way but if she had wanted something else I would have made it for her.
Get my point? I did not make this salad because I am anything "phobic". No obese people were harmed in the making of my choice. I did not run over any obese people during my hour walk following the meal. And, I will have a snack later this evening. I will have a sliced apple, a little peanut butter on it and maybe a small glass of milk or some yogurt.
Tell me again what is wrong with my choices and who is the bastard who is keeping others from making similar choices. (Of course economics and supply allowing.)
To believe in God is impossible not to believe in Him is absurd.
Voltaire
God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh.
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Voltaire
God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh.
Voltaire