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David Smith reads between the lines of Trump’s first presidential address to members of the House and Senate, his cabinet and the supreme court justices

Tonight, as we mark the conclusion of our celebration of Black History Month, we are reminded of our nation’s path toward civil rights and the work that still remains. Recent threats targeting Jewish Community Centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week’s shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all its forms.


In his opening paragraph Trump tries to put out some recent fires. He was highly unpopular among African American voters and his choice of attorney general, Jeff Sessions, faced scrutiny over his civil rights record, but here is a name check for Black History Month. Critics say he was slow to condemn antisemitic attacks but here are specific mentions of incidents at Jewish community centres and cemeteries. Trump had also faced calls to condemn last week’s shooting of two Indian men in Kansas City – and now he has. All boxes ticked.

A new chapter of American greatness is now beginning. A new national pride is sweeping across our nation. And a new surge of optimism is placing impossible dreams firmly within our grasp. What we are witnessing today is the renewal of the American spirit. Our allies will find that America is once again ready to lead.


The clue was in the tie: blue and white stripes instead of the usual angry red. Whereas his inaugural address dwelled on “American carnage” with “rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones”, the nub of this speech could be summed up as “American greatness”. The appeal is to an old idea of American exceptionalism: manifest destiny, the greatest generation, the right stuff, Ronald Reagan’s “shining city upon a hill”, even Barack Obama’s references to this being “the greatest nation on earth”, and of course Trump’s own slogan “Make America great again”. Campaign lines such as “drain the swamp” also made an appearance to keep him in touch with the base.

Dying industries will come roaring back to life. Heroic veterans will get the care they so desperately need. Our military will be given the resources its brave warriors so richly deserve. Crumbling infrastructure will be replaced with new roads, bridges, tunnels, airports and railways gleaming across our very, very beautiful land. Our terrible drug epidemic will slow down and ultimately, stop. And our neglected inner cities will see a rebirth of hope, safety, and opportunity. Above all else, we will keep our promises to the American people.


This passage reads almost like the narration of a slow motion film, with flowers sprouting and black and white turning to colour. Many of the claims seem hopelessly ambitious and idealistic: some of the “dying industries” involve factories where machines have replaced humans and the clock cannot be turned back. Who will pay for the infrastructure programme? How will the drug epidemic be stopped? Trump cannot, at least, be accused of aiming low.

To any in Congress who do not believe we should enforce our laws, I would ask you this question: what would you say to the American family that loses their jobs, their income, or a loved one, because America refused to uphold its laws and defend its borders? Our obligation is to serve, protect, and defend the citizens of the United States. We are also taking strong measures to protect our nation from radical Islamic terrorism.


Trump bites back at critics of his travel bans, insisting that he is keeping the nation safe. At last year’s Republican national convention it felt emotionally exploitative to some when families of people killed by undocumented immigrants were paraded. Family members were in the spotlight again in a similarly questionable stunt on Tuesday night. Meanwhile Trump seemed to relish his use of the divisive phrase “radical Islamic terrorism”, something which his new national security adviser, HR McMaster, reportedly advises against.

The time has come for a new programme of national rebuilding. America has spent approximately six trillion dollars in the Middle East, all the while our infrastructure at home is crumbling. With this six trillion dollars we could have rebuilt our country – twice. And maybe even three times if we had people who had the ability to negotiate.
His claim that America spent about six trillion dollars in the Middle East is questionable.


Trump asks for $1tn investment in infrastructure financed through both public and private capital. Democrats have already come up with an infrastructure proposal: this is an area where they could potentially find common cause, since there are plenty of bipartisan grumbles about “third world airports” and slow railways. Trump’s reference to the ability to negotiate was no doubt about himself: Mike Pence and Paul Ryan, sitting behind, got the joke and laughed.

Everything that is broken in our country can be fixed. Every problem can be solved. And every hurting family can find healing, and hope. Our citizens deserve this, and so much more – so why not join forces to finally get the job done and get it done right? On this and so many other things, Democrats and Republicans should get together and unite for the good of our country, and for the good of the American people.


Consciously or otherwise, there are echoes of two former presidents. Bill Clinton said: “There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America.” Obama, in his final state of the union address, said “the rancour and suspicion between the parties has gotten worse instead of better”. Trump tries to reach across the aisle and appeal to Democrats to end the hyperpartisanship of Washington but calls for unity with a uniquely divisive agenda. Democrats were relatively restrained through the address but are under pressure for their liberal base to oppose him at every turn.

We are blessed to be joined tonight by Carryn Owens, the widow of a US Navy Special Operator, Senior Chief William “Ryan” Owens. Ryan died as he lived: a warrior, and a hero – battling against terrorism and securing our nation. I just spoke to General Mattis, who reconfirmed that, and I quote, “Ryan was a part of a highly successful raid that generated large amounts of vital intelligence that will lead to many more victories in the future against our enemies.” Ryan’s legacy is etched into eternity. And Ryan is looking down right now, you know that, and he’s very happy because I think he just broke a record.


This was the most powerful moment of the night and, some would say, the only emotionally authentic one. Congress stood to applaud Carryn Owens, who stood with hands clasped and gazed up at the heavens and could be seen whispering, “Love you”. Trump could not resist ad libbing a line about record applause, which some found inappropriate. Even more jarringly, earlier on Tuesday, Trump appeared to duck responsibility for ordering the raid in Yemen that killed Owens, telling Fox News: “This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do. They came to me, they explained what they wanted to do – the generals –who are very respected, my generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan.

Free nations are the best vehicle for expressing the will of the people – and America respects the right of all nations to chart their own path. My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America. But we know that America is better off, when there is less conflict – not more. We must learn from the mistakes of the past – we have seen the war and destruction that have raged across our world.


The Trump doctrine on foreign policy remains obscure beyond America First. On Tuesday he expressed strong support for Nato and claimed its members are starting to pay their share. He also offered a few tantalising glimpses of a worldview. Respecting the right of nations to chart their own path chimes with previous statements that days of trying to impose western-style democracy are over. The reference to “mistakes of the past” could mean Vietnam and probably Iraq, of which he has been harshly critical, despite expressing approval at the time.

When we celebrate our 250 years of glorious freedom, we will look back on tonight as when this new chapter of American greatness began. The time for small thinking is over. The time for trivial fights is behind us. We just need the courage to share the dreams that fill our hearts.


Trump recalled America’s centennial, in Philadelphia, where builders, artists and inventors showed off their creations: Alexander Graham Bell displayed his telephone, Remington unveiled the first typewriter and Thomas Edison showed an automatic telegraph and an electric pen. This is indicative of the 70-year-old white man’s nostalgia for a golden age, for a lost greatness that must be restored. In addition, the time for small thinking is over – a natural sentiment for the builder of Trump Tower who specialises in “truthful hyperbole”. But whether he has fought his last “trivial fight” remains to be seen.



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The guardian is a leftist, immigrant-friendly paper.

They are trying very hard to project a negative light on the speech.

For instance, I will cite only one sentence:
anarchist23 wrote: This is indicative of the 70-year-old white man’s nostalgia for a golden age, for a lost greatness that must be restored.

If it was Hillary giving the speech, would they have mentioned her age and her race?
I don't think so.
The more I see, the more I read, I have lost all confidence in the news media I use for information (The Guardian, the NYT, the WP, most European papers, and so on.
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Ter wrote:The guardian is a leftist, immigrant-friendly paper.

They are trying very hard to project a negative light on the speech.

For instance, I will cite only one sentence:

If it was Hillary giving the speech, would they have mentioned her age and her race?
I don't think so.
The more I see, the more I read, I have lost all confidence in the news media I use for information (The Guardian, the NYT, the WP, most European papers, and so on.


It's not just me but 120 retired generals who are questioning Trumps decisions. I dislike Killary as well as Trump in fact Killary is a wolf and hawk.. I don't believe in governments, have never voted and detest all politicians.

More than 120 retired generals are making what may seem like a surprising defense of government spending on diplomacy. Their unified perspective is expressed in letter to congressional leadership and was prompted by an announcement of major cuts to the non-defense budget and a corresponding increase of $54 billion to defense spending.

The generals quoted Defense Secretary James Mattis to illustrate their point that foreign policy is not monolithic, and that diplomacy and defense are equal partners in U.S. policy.

“As Secretary James Mattis said while commander of U.S. Central Command, ‘If you don’t fully fund the State Department, then I need to buy more ammunition.’”

In Mr. Trump’s first address as president, terror topped his foreign policy agenda.


“We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones -- and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth,” he declared in his inaugural address. Now, through his continued rhetoric and this budget announcement, it is evident that in Trump’s eyes, defending the nation means giving the military all the muscle that they need, to the detriment of diplomatic funding.

The signatories of this letter disagree that foreign policy should be approached purely as a militaristic endeavor. One signer is Marine Gen. John R. Allen, a retired United States Marine Corps four-star general, former top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, and 2014-2015 Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL appointed by President Obama.

“Cutting the State Department budget by 30 percent is consigning us to a generational war. We cannot fight our way out of this. It is an issue which can be decided by decisive diplomacy and enlightened development,” General Allen told CBS News.


“If [the president] wants to eradicate radical Islamic terrorism, his only hope of doing it is not through an interminable war on Islam. It is by funding the very things in the State Department that give us the capacity to work with other countries and to help, in the context of development, to change the human condition in places in the world where young men and women are radicalized by virtue of the social environments they are in. They are pushed into the arms of extremists who we must fight.”

Other prominent generals who signed the letter include former NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander and former Army Chief of Staff Gen. William Casey.

The letter was coordinated by the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, a group of business executives, foreign-policy experts and retired senior military officials who advocate for using diplomacy with defense -- not instead of it. They addressed their letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. There were also copies sent to the State Department, the Department of Defense and Trump’s national security adviser, H.R. McMaster.

“We know from our service in uniform that many of the crises our nation faces do not have military solutions alone -- from confronting violent extremist groups like ISIS in the Middle East and North Africa to preventing pandemics like Ebola and stabilizing weak and fragile states that can lead to greater instability,” the generals wrote.

Specific numbers regarding the State Department cuts have not been made public, but State Department employees are on edge. They don’t want to see a sledgehammer approach applied to the funding for their diplomatic work. Some fear that these cuts will lead to a destruction of government rather than what Trump’s Chief White House Strategist Steve Bannon calls “a deconstruction of the administrative state.”

“The Department is working with the White House and OMB to review its budget priorities,” wrote Mark Toner, acting State Department spokesperson. “The Department remains committed to a U.S. foreign policy that advances the security and prosperity of the American people.”

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright declared the proposed cuts will “undercut American diplomacy, which is important for national security.” She made those comments on Monday night on a panel for J-Street, a group of liberal pro-Israel Americans.

Though Trump is not known for listening closely to critiques, he has shown some inclination toward the generals he has among his own staff and Cabinet, including national security adviser Gen. H.R. McMaster.


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anarchist23 wrote:It's not just me but 120 retired generals who are questioning Trumps decisions.

Yes, and then there are other retired generals coming out for Trump.
The American society, and the people in most of the other countries are terribly polarised right now.
This is not going to end well.
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anarchist23 wrote:I don't believe in governments, have never voted and detest all politicians.

That's why you anarchists are such effective political activists. :lol:

All you've achieved with your attitude and taking part in the movement is that photo in your signature and a young wife, I guess.
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Beren wrote:All you've achieved with your attitude and taking part in the movement is that photo in your signature and a young wife, I guess.


This thread ain't about me and I really haven't the time to answer your criticism of me in any depth.

Yes, the photo in my sig is of me getting arrested at a miners picket in 84, big deal and my young wife is in her forties. lol
I am a conscientious objector and had to leave Australia at the end of the sixties, I have picketed untold factories, embassies, attended many marches. I have been actively involved in politics since a teenager, involved in the student uprising in the late 60s early 70s. I have attended many political meetings in backrooms of pubs and large meetings as well. I initiated a homeless charity which is now a housing association and I have housed many homeless teenagers in my home.
All my five kids are socialists and very political and hopefully my seven grandchildren will be as well.
My father, a communist, was a shop steward in the printing trade and was sacked several times because he was one and we have gone hungry because of this when I was a kid. My whole life revolves around the fact I am political, anti establishment/anti capitalist and a socialist.
My grandfather, a socialist, spent over two years in prison as he was a conscientious objector in WWI.


What are you doing in regards politics? No doubt, fuck all.
Come back to me when you are in your mid sixties and we will compare notes.
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I thought his speech was well delivered, and I appreciate the softer tone on undocumented immigrants and on those already vetted but banned green card holders, but disappointed with his healthcare policy. Other than that, I didn't hear anything new. I will say the 8 to 9 year delay for reconstructing the infrastructure will prove to have been expensive, and I doubt many new jobs will be created. The people with jobs in the building trades are fluid, moving from project to project. Hopefully, there will be some newbies becoming apprentices. A labour shortage in construction may drive wages higher.
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Stormsmith wrote:I thought his speech was well delivered, and I appreciate the softer tone on undocumented immigrants and on those already vetted but banned green card holders, but disappointed with his healthcare policy. Other than that, I didn't hear anything new. I will say the 8 to 9 year delay for reconstructing the infrastructure will prove to have been expensive, and I doubt many new jobs will be created. The people with jobs in the building trades are fluid, moving from project to project. Hopefully, there will be some newbies becoming apprentices. A labour shortage in construction may drive wages higher.


Health care is definitely the weak spot. Republicans used it as a battering ram against Democrats and Democrats will be able to use it against Republicans, because the system is so broken no one knows how to fix it. :(
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Are you kidding? It's easy to fix the problem is political will not ease.

You just tax the fuck out of the idle rich and use that money to build hospitals and fill them with doctors and matrons and nurses and porters and medicine and bandages and xray machines and things and then keep taxing the rich to pay everyone's wages. Then people who work get medical treatment free at the point of use.
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Decky wrote:Are you kidding? It's easy to fix the problem is political will not ease.

You just tax the fuck out of the idle rich and use that money to build hospitals and fill them with doctors and matrons and nurses and porters and medicine and bandages and xray machines and things and then keep taxing the rich to pay everyone's wages. Then people who work get medical treatment free at the point of use.


We already have all that ^. They just want us to pay much more than we should, and insist we need lots of testing we don't. Not even the rich should have to pay for extortion.
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I thought it was pretty boilerplate stuff. Trump didn't say anything we didn't already know about. The spin seems to be that Trump's critics wanted less American Carnage more national reconciliation and I guess they got that, but then again it's pretty clear that Trump & co are going to continue to pursue their agenda regardless of opposition, so I'm not sure what it matters. The usual contradictions were still apparent: US is so in debt and being exploited by other countries etc, and that's why we need to build a bigger military that we already can't afford? I didn't hear anything about relief for American workers and other than promising to "obliterate" radical Islamic terrorism-- something National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster has explicitly told Trump to stop saying-- there wasn't any clearer an indication of what Trump's actual foreign policy is going to be, or what the outcome of the DOD 30 day review suggested. As Nader points out in the video below, Trump lied about the success of the Yemen raid, AND immediately painted over the incident through the exploitation of the SEAL's widow. Sad.

Trump's supporters seem to think this was a brilliant piece of propaganda, but I'm not so sure. It clearly didn't go over well with the house democrats and Steven Beshear's- and Bernie Sander's- response was scathing.





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I did not see much new in the speech. Apparently 70% of Americans liked it, so that is a good thing :hmm: I feel he is sincere about his campaign promises. I have been confused by the delays, but this could be due to poor preparation, strong Republican resistance, waiting for public and media resistance to die down, etc.
The speech definitely defused the media and that means the public will follow if he slowly implements his plans.
It was a good strategic move and time will tell how it goes from here.
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anarchist23 wrote:This thread ain't about me and I really haven't the time to answer your criticism of me in any depth.

Yes, the photo in my sig is of me getting arrested at a miners picket in 84, big deal and my young wife is in her forties. lol
I am a conscientious objector and had to leave Australia at the end of the sixties, I have picketed untold factories, embassies, attended many marches. I have been actively involved in politics since a teenager, involved in the student uprising in the late 60s early 70s. I have attended many political meetings in backrooms of pubs and large meetings as well. I initiated a homeless charity which is now a housing association and I have housed many homeless teenagers in my home.
All my five kids are socialists and very political and hopefully my seven grandchildren will be as well.
My father, a communist, was a shop steward in the printing trade and was sacked several times because he was one and we have gone hungry because of this when I was a kid. My whole life revolves around the fact I am political, anti establishment/anti capitalist and a socialist.
My grandfather, a socialist, spent over two years in prison as he was a conscientious objector in WWI.


What are you doing in regards politics? No doubt, fuck all.
Come back to me when you are in your mid sixties and we will compare notes.

I'm sure you're politically active, that's why I called you a political activist, but what have you anarchists achieved so far? I mean politically. You do politics for the sake of doing politics. The alt-right movement doesn't even have a history, but they've achieved more than you ever will. Also, if you're in your mid-sixties and your wife is in her forties, then you have a (relatively) young wife, so why the lol? And how old were you when you married?
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anarchist23 wrote:@Beren

I've replied to your criticisms but you still haven't answered my single question.

Sure, you told me about your and your family's political activism, although I criticised you as an anarchist for your (lack of) political achievements and not your activism.

As to your question, I usually vote, which makes me more political than most anarchists actually. :lol:

However, I never mistake social activities (doing social services) for being political and never do politics for the sake of doing politics. I had been politically active until the last elections, but now I consider myself retired from politics.

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