- 30 Mar 2018 12:12
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My girlfriend's daughter agrees with me. I'll listen to American youth, before some Canadian expat living under a military government any day. Most of them don't even know what an assault weapon is.
Neither. The Parkland shooter had already committed felonies. Obama's efforts to stop "school-to-prison" creates a situation where budding criminals aren't punished. Sometimes that leads to their own deaths, such as in the Trayvon Martin case. Sometimes it leads to them killing others, as in the Parkland case. In the latter case, the shooter was already known--even to the FBI. That's also the case in the Omar Mateen shooting of LGBTQ people. Ironically, Mateen's father was a paid FBI informant. Once again, they did nothing.
You brought up non-whites. Syrians are "refugees." Why do they need to be considered for "citizenship"? In the United States, illegally resident Mexicans are exploited for their labor, not for becoming citizens. So if open borders is something you champion in the United States, why would you use the language of border enforcement and enfranchisement in Thailand?
Gun control doesn't stop mass shootings. Columbine happened during the last ban on assault weapons. These bans do nothing to stop crime. California bans the sale of assault weapons. However, you can make your own. You can comply with the law and register it, or you can not comply with the law and not register it. You can also purchase a weapon illegally, as the San Bernardino county shooters did.
As for racism, you people always seem to bring up how black people end up on the wrong side of the law. What are you going to do with blacks who violate gun control laws? I've pointed examples multiple times where a young black man is charged with a felony for a victimless crime, usually possession of a gun while doing something stupid. You people will be claiming "racism" once your gun control measures are enforced.
Maybe to prevent mass shootings, we just need to prevent masses. Gun control is a stupid fucking idea too.
Killing people with knives happens. Mass killing with knives (or swords) happens too.
If they had hijacked 767's, thousands would die. In Nice, 86 people died from a truck attack. There were 7 attackers in the Bataclan attack with 130 deaths. Trucks can be significantly more dangerous. The Las Vegas shooting had 58 deaths and one shooter. So I think you are overstating things. If defendants had guns, the shootings would have had fewer casualties.
Who gets prosecuted the most? Most violent crimes in the United States are perpetrated by blacks. You seem to want to omit that fact from your argument for gun control. Who do you think is most adversely affected by these laws? Who do you think is going to get arrested and convicted? I am one of the few people who is willing to call you leftists out on your own bullshit. I'm one of the few who points out that the 1994 crime law was championed and signed by Bill Clinton. Then, we get the ridiculous racial arguments from the political left and this "Black Lives Matter" bullshit, which claims that Republicans are the bad guys. Where are most of the violent crimes committed? A: In places that have been governed by Democrats for decades.
In America, according to Obama's DoJ, a black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. These laws invariably fall hardest on black people. Yet, the same people claiming we need these laws then object to their enforcement, because they are violated by racial minorities the most frequently. Deaths affect blacks the most too.
Most white gun deaths are suicides, not violent crimes.
That's what they said when I was young. It didn't happen. What happened is that AR-15s became the most popular weapon in the United States. As usual, sales of AR-15s are soaring. If I were an arms manufacturer, I would pay you to say the things you say. It's the best advertising for the arms industry imaginable.
It'll never happen.
We already know how to machine them at home with home CNC machines. Times have changed. Technology has changed. The dream of the socialists is slipping way as computer-technology driven decentralization and individual empowerment is making the old dimensions of centralized power less relevant.
Godstud wrote:Your argument is bullshit.
My girlfriend's daughter agrees with me. I'll listen to American youth, before some Canadian expat living under a military government any day. Most of them don't even know what an assault weapon is.
Godstud wrote:So stationing police officers outside every school is your solution, or is it enforcing gun control? make up your fucking mind.
Neither. The Parkland shooter had already committed felonies. Obama's efforts to stop "school-to-prison" creates a situation where budding criminals aren't punished. Sometimes that leads to their own deaths, such as in the Trayvon Martin case. Sometimes it leads to them killing others, as in the Parkland case. In the latter case, the shooter was already known--even to the FBI. That's also the case in the Omar Mateen shooting of LGBTQ people. Ironically, Mateen's father was a paid FBI informant. Once again, they did nothing.
Godstud wrote:The requirements for citizenship apply to everyone, regardless of where they are from. How is that relevant to the current discussion?
You brought up non-whites. Syrians are "refugees." Why do they need to be considered for "citizenship"? In the United States, illegally resident Mexicans are exploited for their labor, not for becoming citizens. So if open borders is something you champion in the United States, why would you use the language of border enforcement and enfranchisement in Thailand?
Godstud wrote::roll: Nice try, racist. Racial segregation isn't going to stop these incidents. Gun control is.
Gun control doesn't stop mass shootings. Columbine happened during the last ban on assault weapons. These bans do nothing to stop crime. California bans the sale of assault weapons. However, you can make your own. You can comply with the law and register it, or you can not comply with the law and not register it. You can also purchase a weapon illegally, as the San Bernardino county shooters did.
As for racism, you people always seem to bring up how black people end up on the wrong side of the law. What are you going to do with blacks who violate gun control laws? I've pointed examples multiple times where a young black man is charged with a felony for a victimless crime, usually possession of a gun while doing something stupid. You people will be claiming "racism" once your gun control measures are enforced.
Godstud wrote:Your solution to school shootings is to shut down schools, and do home-schooling? Any other stupid fucking ideas? You seem to chock full of them, today.
Maybe to prevent mass shootings, we just need to prevent masses. Gun control is a stupid fucking idea too.
Godstud wrote:Not in a school, in the USA. Irrelevant to the discussion.
Killing people with knives happens. Mass killing with knives (or swords) happens too.
Godstud wrote:If they'd had guns, hundreds would have died.
If they had hijacked 767's, thousands would die. In Nice, 86 people died from a truck attack. There were 7 attackers in the Bataclan attack with 130 deaths. Trucks can be significantly more dangerous. The Las Vegas shooting had 58 deaths and one shooter. So I think you are overstating things. If defendants had guns, the shootings would have had fewer casualties.
Godstud wrote:Banning certain weapons, is not racist. Your argument is stupid, AGAIN. I also dismiss it, as you're one of the most racist right-wingers on this forum.
Who gets prosecuted the most? Most violent crimes in the United States are perpetrated by blacks. You seem to want to omit that fact from your argument for gun control. Who do you think is most adversely affected by these laws? Who do you think is going to get arrested and convicted? I am one of the few people who is willing to call you leftists out on your own bullshit. I'm one of the few who points out that the 1994 crime law was championed and signed by Bill Clinton. Then, we get the ridiculous racial arguments from the political left and this "Black Lives Matter" bullshit, which claims that Republicans are the bad guys. Where are most of the violent crimes committed? A: In places that have been governed by Democrats for decades.
In America, according to Obama's DoJ, a black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. These laws invariably fall hardest on black people. Yet, the same people claiming we need these laws then object to their enforcement, because they are violated by racial minorities the most frequently. Deaths affect blacks the most too.
Most white gun deaths are suicides, not violent crimes.
Godstud wrote:Not yet, but old assholes who consider guns more important than lives are going to die off, and the young people who don't like all the gun violence will change the laws so that the people are safer.
That's what they said when I was young. It didn't happen. What happened is that AR-15s became the most popular weapon in the United States. As usual, sales of AR-15s are soaring. If I were an arms manufacturer, I would pay you to say the things you say. It's the best advertising for the arms industry imaginable.
Godstud wrote:Those young people you dismiss now, are the people who are going to vote that 2nd Amendment into the gutter of history, where it belongs.
It'll never happen.
Godstud wrote:The old white male assholes will just have to sit at home lamenting, hand-wringing, and whinging about their lost gun rights.
We already know how to machine them at home with home CNC machines. Times have changed. Technology has changed. The dream of the socialists is slipping way as computer-technology driven decentralization and individual empowerment is making the old dimensions of centralized power less relevant.
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