AFAIK wrote:I think I would vote anarcho-syndicalism if it were put to a referendum. I like the idea of living in a mixed economy though. There are pros and cons to every system so why not let people gravitate to the one that best meets their desires?
In the nation state system I believe that populations should be sovereign and have the right to self determination. It would be nice to localise this as much as possible.
You do not take into account one of the most important aspects of socialist society, the conditioning of new values into people. Scientifically, it is possible to raise people to believe whatever you want. Religions have been doing it for years. We could do that to make people who are selfless and community minded. Don't believe me? Google Utah, which is a state with very high productivity and work interest because the Mormon religion encourages them to do so. Communism without state and community organized conditioning is doomed to fail. And in fact no society can be really approach perfection without such measures.
AFAIK wrote: The state is an imperialistic monster swallowing or distorting anything and everything it can get it's hands on. We need to chop it into many separate, autonomous, self sufficient, hand held pieces because its appetite can never be sated. It can never be allowed to overpower the population.
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun, but the party must control the gun, not the gun control the party - Mao Zedong, more or less. The state must be treated in a similar manner, because if you simply cut it up, the parts shall eventually grow to consume each other and you end up with the same problem as before. It is better to simply leave the state as it is, and fill it with people who are good and loyal communists. The state is more than the some of its parts, but if the parts are all properly conditioned and motivated people, the state shall be that to.
Coyote wrote:As I stated, I make no value judgement on that type of lifestyle. They may very well have it better than anyone.
But, that being said, they are not wealthier than anyone. Even if you measure leisure time. They die, constantly. Their infant mortality rate is close to 100%.
You can make the case that the lifestyle is better. But they are destitute, any way you slice it.
I am inclined to agree. You can't accomplish anything more than subsistence with bows and baskets. And I like to think one day we'll have something on Mars. But that's just me
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