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By Quantum
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Goldberk wrote:I can't help thinking that this group will just be one long ethnic nationalist splurge.

Hopefully it will implode like the other two failed attempts. Most of them couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone a PoFo group.
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By Cromwell
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Interested parties:

Americanroyalty

annatar1914 (Absolutely Corrupt)

Political Interest (Absolutely Corrupt)

Cromwell

Quetzalcoatl (99% Corrupt)

Frollein

Bridgeburner

Dystopian Darkness

We'd need two more members. You had Decky and RhetoricThug down, but I'm not sure their interest was/is genuine. Also, Goldberk's post was non-committal, so he may or may not be interested.
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By Cromwell
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Goldberk wrote:I'm only interested in civic nationalism if this group is interested in ethnic nationalism then I'm out.


It is, or would be, interested in both; I think it's clearly being pitched as more of a discussion group than an ideological affinity group. I could be wrong, obviously, and it would be up to the leader (whomever that may come to be; Annatar1914, Political Interest or Quetzalcoatl) as to its precise nature.

Nationalism is a very diverse phenomenon; Marxian Left (Ho Chi Minh, and the Vietnamese Struggle), Post-Fascist Left (Kirchner, and Justicialism), Post-Fascist Right (Mosley, and the Declaration of Venice), Soft Left (Hellyer, and Left-Nationalism), Hard Right (Tyndall, and the National Front) and so on and so forth... And that's just the more modern situation.

Nationalism can also be examined as a historical process (the French Revolution, the German Wars of Unification) or as an anthropological one.

Discussion could also be had on stateless nations (like the Basques, the Quebecois, the Tamils). What exactly constitutes a nationality could also make for an interesting series of conversations.
By Conscript
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Dagoth Ur wrote:lol two anarchists in the nationalist group.


This. I don't understand socialists, let alone anarchists, who combine their ideas with nationalism.
By annatar1914
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Cromwell wrote:
It is, or would be, interested in both; I think it's clearly being pitched as more of a discussion group than an ideological affinity group. I could be wrong, obviously, and it would be up to the leader (whomever that may come to be; Annatar1914, Political Interest or Quetzalcoatl) as to its precise nature.

Nationalism is a very diverse phenomenon; Marxian Left (Ho Chi Minh, and the Vietnamese Struggle), Post-Fascist Left (Kirchner, and Justicialism), Post-Fascist Right (Mosley, and the Declaration of Venice), Soft Left (Hellyer, and Left-Nationalism), Hard Right (Tyndall, and the National Front) and so on and so forth... And that's just the more modern situation.

Nationalism can also be examined as a historical process (the French Revolution, the German Wars of Unification) or as an anthropological one.

Discussion could also be had on stateless nations (like the Basques, the Quebecois, the Tamils). What exactly constitutes a nationality could also make for an interesting series of conversations.


I'm not a leader; hell, i'm barely a follower

But I am a Nationalist, that's for certain, of a reactionary but non-fascist sort; I think.
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Goldberk wrote:I'm only interested in civic nationalism if this group is interested in ethnic nationalism then i'm out.

I think there's no reason to not discuss both. Personally I see the virtues in both civic and ethnic nationalism, but I believe a multi-ethnic society is inevitable in the long run. I'm not sure where I fit exactly but perhaps I'm a little leaning towards Integralism, Fascism and some Platonism ideas. My conclusion is that blood and soil is a valuable concept but I don't necessarily advocate one single ethnicity because people can belong to a different or mixed ethnicity and still possess national blood. In my case, I live in a country where most people are south European white, but I consider mulattoes with at least 2/3 of national blood to be national citizens as much as I am
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By anarchist23
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Quantum wrote:Hopefully it will implode like the other two failed attempts. Most of them couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone a PoFo group.


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