[Dr House]

Shelby's amazing Aero EV: 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds, 10 minute recharge



Man juices in a boil? No shame, that's Shelby Super Cars' Aero EV in pursuit of the "world's fastest production electric car" title. SSC just came clean with the details behind its All-Electric Scalable Powertrain (AESP) producing 1,000 horsepower and 800 lb-ft of torque that rips the Aero EV through 0 to 60 in just 2.5 seconds at a 208mph top speed. Compare that to the Tesla Roadster's 0-60 in 3.9 seconds (or 3.7 for the 2009 sport model) and you'll understand all the hubbub, bub. Better yet, the 150-220 mile battery can be refilled in just 10 minutes (Tesla takes 3.5 hours) from a 220V service thanks to what SSC calls its "Charge on the Run" onboard charging system -- something that nearly eliminates (or at least minimizes) the need for a battery swapping infrastructure. The first full-scale, pre-production Ultimate Aero EV should be on the streets before June with production deliveries expected in the fourth quarter. Now we just need a price.

Looks awesome. I hope the pricetag isn't in the high six-figure range, though I suspect it will be.

[Thunderhawk]

Better yet, the 150-220 mile battery can be refilled in just 10 minutes (Tesla takes 3.5 hours) from a 220V service thanks to what SSC calls its "Charge on the Run"

Wow.

I wonder what the battery degradation and overall lifespan is with such charging speeds.

[Capitalist]

I first read about this car back in July last year on Peswiki. What was remarkable were the claims they gave at the time for the limited edition version of their car:

The drive train under development will feature a revolutionary power source allowing for extended time between charging intervals with the possibility of several years between charging.

The claims were mentioned in this article from Shelby's website:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/news-071208.php

[Thunderhawk]

with the possibility of several years between charging.

Is that the charge dying over time like a fully charged yet unused NiCd becoming dead after a month?
or something else?


I dont know a lot about recharagable battery technology, but I know enough to recognize claims that are fantastic and then not being explained.

[QatzelOk]

It looks like it seats one, much like a bicycle.

[Dr House]

It probably seats two. Most sports cars do.

This is very good news, no matter what side of the environmentalist debate you stand on. Not only is it an exceedingly cool car, it also has the capacity to make electric cars viable what with the 10-minute refill time. This would have the effect, if more mainstream cars are made with the technology, of drastically reducing the amount of oil used worldwide. That would be fantastic for the US, since it would dramatically reduce our current account deficit and cause gas prices to plummet (which incidentally would lower logistics costs and aid our ailing manufacturing sector).

[QatzelOk]

Most sports cars do.

It's a sports car?

What sports does it play? Badminton? Water polo?

Or is the driver supposed to race other electric-car drivers around an asphalt loop?

[Siberian Fox]

No QatzelOk, it just has the potential to travel faster than one could legally do so and looks fancy.

I know it will not be to your liking, but that high end technology would arrive in a conspicuous-consumption market like sports cars first is not surprising, since it is the only way to claw back the expense of each unit profitably. As the technology becomes cheaper it will eventually be seen in real (i.e. affordable) cars.

[Dr House]

Foxy, Qatz is completely and irrationally biased against all cars, gas (petrol for you brits)-powered or not.

Though having seen him post for over four years you probably know that already.

[Dave]

While certain battery technologies do exist that allow for very high power charging without degradation, I don't understand how 10 minute recharging is possible unless they have a 300kW source or something. The average home in North America only has 24kW maximum service.

[Dr House]

It probably partially recovers charge from the wheel's kinetic energy.

[Dave]

That doesn't make any sense at all. Recovering energy from the wheel requires slowing the wheel down.

[Siberian Fox]

Recovering energy from the wheel requires slowing the wheel down.

Like when you break for example (not that I know if it does recover energy like that).

[Dr House]

Like when you break for example (not that I know if it does recover energy like that).

That's actually the exact way that hybrids recover energy. They recover about 30% of energy expended this way.

[Thunderhawk]

It probably partially recovers charge from the wheel's kinetic energy.

Regenerative breaking has never been very effective, as the added weight to the wheel for regeneration equipment causes a increase in power demand for accelerating and rotating the wheel in general.

[dilpill]

I don't agree with the "Finally" part of the title, as the Tesla Roadster was definitely a cool electric car, but OMG I WANT 1 NOW.

[Dr House]

Tesla takes 3 and a half hours to charge. This takes 10 minutes.

This motor actually has the potential to replace internal combustion engines, which is fucking sweet for several reasons, including the following:

• There is an outside shot it could shut green leftards (Qatz not included) the fuck up. Unfortunately it could also very well turn them into socialists.
• It would cause gas prices to drop violently, thereby solving our trade deficit and greatly lowering our logistics costs, not to mention making owning an actual gas-powered car cheaper.

[dilpill]

Tesla takes 3 and a half hours to charge. This takes 10 minutes.

For the reason that Dave pointed out, I doubt that the average user would be able to do a 10 minute charge.

However, maybe people could get some sort of capacitor system to charge first, while people are out using the car, and then the electricity from the capacitor could be used to charge the actual battery in 10 minutes when people come home to charge.

This motor actually has the potential to replace internal combustion engines, which is fucking sweet for several reasons.

That's what they said about the Tesla Roadster. When a new "bigger and better" electric car comes out, it will also take this title from it's predecessor. But let's not argue over something so trivial.

[Dr House]

For the reason that Dave pointed out, I doubt that the average user would be able to do a 10 minute charge.

Maybe they have 300kw charging stations.

This motor actually has the potential to replace internal combustion engines

That's what they said about the Tesla Roadster.

This is different. If the ten-minute claim is correct, this motor can actually be charged in only marginally more time than it would take to fill up a tank of gas, which means it would have pretty much all the convenience of a conventional gas engine.

[dilpill]

which means it would have pretty much all the convenience of a conventional gas engine.

At about 10x the price.

This is different.

I just see this as a building off of the Tesla. The next step in electric car technology will probably some big price reducing breakthrough.