- 19 Apr 2014 16:31
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Pretty much everything. You are part of the parasitic classes. People are forced to sell their labour to pay your rents.
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Rei Murasame wrote:It's not even hypocrisy since I never said anything about abolishing rent. But even if I had, it wouldn't matter. Systems evolve. Things that people are doing now, are things that people won't be doing in the future. So I don't think anyone should care at all.
Rei Murasame wrote:Everyone that criticises liberal-capitalism is part of it, because we are living in a world shaped by it. What's your point?
The Programme of the Communist International. Comintern Sixth Congress 1929 wrote:Starting out with the ostensible demand for the abolition of the “wage system” as an “immoral” institution which must be abolished by means of workers’ control of industry, guild socialism completely ignores the most important question, viz., the question of power. While striving to unite workers, intellectuals, and technicians into a federation of national industrial “guilds,” and to convert these guilds by peaceful means (“control from within”) into organs for the administration of industry within the framework of the bourgeois State, guild socialism actually defends the bourgeois State, obscures its class, imperialist and anti-proletarian character, and allots to it the function of the non-class representative of the interests of the “consumers” as against the guild-organised “producers.” By its advocacy of “functional democracy,” i.e., representation of classes in capitalist society-each class being presumed to have a definite social and productive function-guild socialism paves the way for the Fascist “corporate State.” By repudiating both parliamentarism and “direct action,” the majority of the guild socialists doom the working class to inaction and passive subordination to the bourgeoisie. Thus guild socialism represents a peculiar form of trade unionist utopian opportunism, and as such cannot but play an anti-revolutionary role.
fuser wrote:So, is this thread still about guild socialism?
If yes then guild socialism is another one of those utopian socialism. Other than that, its advocacy of peaceful transition and functional democracy is downright counter-revolutionary keeping the revolutionary aspirations in check. Not that it matters now as both guild socialism and any chance of a big proletarian revolution is dead right now.
ComradeTim wrote:It seems to me that Guild Socialism is just a weak tea, compromising form of Reformist Syndicalism. The fact that it's had no successes since it was created (unlike Revolutionary Syndicalism) shows its bankruptcy as an effective ideology.
ComradeTim wrote:It has been described (by no less an intelligence as Bertrand Russell) as "a uniquely British compromise". Many brands of it seek to retain the state rather than replace it. These are good arguments for it being , at least in part, a relatively reformist ideology.
I agree that ideology should not be judged solely by success, but you will agree that it has to feature largely in any analysis?
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