[Lexington]

Who cares what Syriza or Podemos do or don't do. Neither of these political parties have an interest in handing over the ownership of the means of production to the working-class. However, if elected, there is potential that they can do some good to oppose the parasitic EU system, built for capitalist profit making and reducing wages of the working-class. Will it happen? I don't know, but in the end, if we don't have hope in our potential achievements, then what is the actual benefit of doing anything at all?

If I can provide some constructive criticism:

I don't like the far-right any better than you do, but they're willing to work with and co-opt the conservatives. On the other hand, the far-left nowadays seems to just be waiting for humanity to change its minds and fall into its hands.

[Decky]

Better the far right win and put us all against the wall than we compromise with the centre "left". There could be nothing worse than working with Labour scum.

[Lexington]

Better the far right win and put us all against the wall than we compromise with the centre "left". There could be nothing worse than working with Labour scum.

BNP is better than Labour. Got it.

[Decky]

You're behind the times, the BNP collapsed (believe it or not they kept trying to assassinate each other towards the end). UKIP are the party of the right now (and this shitty little outfit called Britain first).

[Eauz]

Better the far right win and put us all against the wall than we compromise with the centre "left". There could be nothing worse than working with Labour scum.

QFT. No way would there be a compromise with the centre left. They already threw us under the bus by handing out social programs after the war and are now taking them away. You can't trust the centre left to do anything constructive for the working-class. Their interests lays with serving the bourgeois class.

[Decky]

Liebour are the scum of the earth, at least the right are generally honest about being massive bastards.

[fuser]

on immigration :

Basically The right wing just wants to beat up the weakest and most vulnerable part of society (me Strong!!) and see it as some sort of solution while ignoring the elephant in the room i.e. capitalism unlike left (real) which actually wants to address the crux of matter. Its not immigrants that are keeping wages in check but capitalism which will always maintain an army of unemployed people to keep wages in check, if you don't allow immigrants then they will simply export their shops to the lands of these immigrants. There is simply no benefit for native working class in this scenario.

Also, BNP right wing of capitalism, labor left wing of capitalism but they both are part and parcel of capitalism.

[Lexington]

You're behind the times, the BNP collapsed (believe it or not they kept trying to assassinate each other towards the end). UKIP are the party of the right now (and this shitty little outfit called Britain first).

Fine, UKIP. Same point.

QFT. No way would there be a compromise with the centre left. They already threw us under the bus by handing out social programs after the war and are now taking them away. You can't trust the centre left to do anything constructive for the working-class. Their interests lays with serving the bourgeois class.

I'm really curious then: why do you think the far-left is so weak these days?

The far-right is doing far better because (I think) it compromised with the conservatives (you may call them liberals). I'm just saying.

[KlassWar]

Cooperation with left-anarchists and so-called democratic socialists and other leftists is often worthwile and desirable, but there can be no alliance with so-called social democrats that will actually support right wing governments to keep the left out of power. The only possible cooperation towards the Traitor International is to kindly help them find their way to the nearest GULAG. They're the conscious, bought and paid for agents of the class enemy, and they should be regarded and treated as such.

Centre left parties are a malignant cancer on the working class movement, and they gotta be ruthlessly excised for the working class movement to thrive.

[Lexington]

Cooperation with left-anarchists and so-called democratic socialists and other leftists is often worthwile and desirable, but there can be no alliance with so-called social democrats that will actually support right wing governments to keep the left out of power. The only possible cooperation towards the Traitor International is to kindly help them find their way to the nearest GULAG. They're the conscious, bought and paid for agents of the class enemy, and they should be regarded and treated as such.

Centre left parties are a malignant cancer on the working class movement, and they gotta be ruthlessly excised for the working class movement to thrive.

I would really enjoy seeing a complete list of people you want to see dead. You thought that the murder of two beat policemen in my city was justified.

I protested on both Eric Garner's side and on the police side for the funerals of honorable men. I had to be very quiet in the latter, but both were right.

[KlassWar]

The itemized list is going to take me a while, but you can have the high-concept version in a meantime: Any and all enemies of socialism, without mercy.

[Dagoth Ur]

I'm really curious then: why do you think the far-left is so weak these days?

Because we compromised with the center-left in the 20th.

[Lexington]

The itemized list is going to take me a while, but you can have the high-concept version in a meantime: Any and all enemies of socialism, without mercy.

Please, take your time. Starting with innocent cops getting shot in the head keeping the peace is a great start for socialism.

Again, I'm not defending police brutality against, you know, Eric Garner! I protested that! You, on the other hand, celebrate shooting cops whenever possible.

In the city I live in. I really should go around PoFo just reposting the things you've said. I could inoculate a generation against leftism.

Because we compromised with the center-left in the 20th.

You guys are doing wonderfully not compromising. Keep doing that.

Us liberals - with no help from the far left - will keep doing things like increasing health insurance and marijuana legalization (don't tell me this doesn't matter - hundreds of thousands of people will no longer be incarcerated) or gay marriage (don't tell me this doesn't matter: hundreds of thousands of people INCLUDING ME will be able to get married legally) or health care reform (don't tell me this doesn't matter - millions of people who would not be insured will have protection)

[Dagoth Ur]

While you simultaneously perpetuate homelessness, mass imprisonment, islamism/fascism, the international drug trade, imperialism, and a system of chaos that will always target the worker. Some surprise we don't want to compromise on the big issues for token bullshit like weed legalization and reinforcing patriarchal property agreements romanticized as "marriage". Oh and good work getting a shittier version of healthcare than the Soviets had in the thirties. Some real progress there liberals.

We are down now so you can act triumphant, fair enough.

[Lexington]

While you simultaneously perpetuate homelessness'

Why are people homeless?

the international drug trade"

Jesus: in this year, could you not have possibly asked for a better gift as far as legalizing (I'm sorry liberalizing) the drug trade?

imperialism

*shows up at the DMV window with cheap coffee*

What specific form of imperialism are you concerned about today?

a system of chaos that will always target the worker

Welcome to life.

Some surprise we don't want to compromise on the big issues for token bullshit like weed legalization and reinforcing patriarchal property agreements romanticized as "marriage".

Have you bothered to measure the effect of the Affordable Care Act?

Because (I saw the picture of your place once on here I think)...you seem like the kind of person that would have a net benefit.

[Dagoth Ur]

Why are people homeless?

The irresponsible private property scheme.

Jesus: in this year, could you not have possibly asked for a better gift as far as legalizing (I'm sorry liberalizing) the drug trade?

Weed legalization when any amount of molly or heroin is a felony is hardly legalization. You will maintain the cartels by doing this piecemeal and allowing them time to diversify. You will also maintain cartels because you don't have the tenacity to exterminate them (that is when you aren't to busy giving them money to kill indigenous resistance to American desires). And you will continue to fill prisons with minorities in a "war on drugs".

What specific form of imperialism are you concerned about today?

Primarily Atlanticist, secondarily Regional. Which are you going to try and justify?

Welcome to life.

Would you like me to rickshaw you 10 miles somewhere, and then throw shit in my face for payment (while simultaneously calling me foolish for expecting otherwise)?

Have you bothered to measure the effect of the Affordable Care Act?

Every other first world nation has more accessible healthcare for far less cost. For like decades.

Because (I saw the picture of your place once on here I think)...you seem like the kind of person that would have a net benefit.

Of course I have a benefit. It's goddamn 2015 almost, I live in the richest country in the world, and we still can't get actually socialized healthcare. It's pathetic.

[Lexington]

The irresponsible private property scheme.

No, because you guys on the left have failed at defending poor people completely. Only us liberals are left since you guys have abandoned us and gone on cannibalizing each other.

Weed legalization when any amount of molly or heroin is a felony is hardly legalization.

You are so white. I'm really curious what you think happened between the drugs you use and where it came from.

[fuser]

No, because you guys on the left have failed at defending poor people completely. Only us liberals are left since you guys have abandoned us and gone on cannibalizing each other.

lol, you think poor are homeless because far left is not doing anything? Does that mean you agree that only far left can do anything about this situation or if not, then obviously fault lies in "The irresponsible private property scheme. " as Dagoth said.

[Dagoth Ur]

No, because you guys on the left have failed at defending poor people completely. Only us liberals are left since you guys have abandoned us and gone on cannibalizing each other.

If you're all that's left we [the poor] are fucked. What little protections we had, all won by socialists by the way, are constantly being eroded by liberals.

You are so white. I'm really curious what you think happened between the drugs you use and where it came from.

Lots of buttholes and poor exploited people. Just like if I ate chicken mcnuggets. Why do you support clearly defunct prohibition when it functions primarily to imprison minorities, and empower cartels?

[Thompson_NCL]

This is the rhetoric fed to SA foot-soldiers to placate them. If rhetoric isn't enough then Long Knives.

Italy didn't have a Night of the Long Knives Fascism is a broader ideology than just National Socialism.