[ralfy]

What? :?: You need to justify this logic.

Technology developed for business purposes may have military use and vice versa, people take more years of formal education to develop or use technology, and technology goes beyond subsistence farming.

[Rainbow Crow]

-cracy means government or rule so the name suggests that it's supposed to be a government.

Even if you decide to call it a system and not a form of government, I'm not seeing how it's a system either. What does it do and how? It's seemingly a cool word with no actual substance or theory.

[mikema63]

It's a system where governments run by engineers and scientists using science, they could run it under communism or fascism or something else.

[Figlio di Moros]

It's an economic system where engineers and technological specialists create effecient allocations of resources and power.

You need material resources for all of those techno-fixes. In addition, given a global capitalist system that requires continuous growth, a technocracy will obviously need unlimited resources as whatever resources are saved will be used elsewhere.

The point is that technocracy is an alternative to the "global capitalist system", and cannot be judged by the same shortcomings of international capitalism. Furthermore, we already have the resources we need for the fixes; what we don't have is the general demand to put them in place.

I would say that, generally speaking, we need a post-Keynesian economic system in order to promote and put a technocracy in place.

[quetzalcoatl]

...The point is that technocracy is an alternative to the "global capitalist system", and cannot be judged by the same shortcomings of international capitalism. Furthermore, we already have the resources we need for the fixes; what we don't have is the general demand to put them in place.

I would say that, generally speaking, we need a post-Keynesian economic system in order to promote and put a technocracy in place.

This is an inevitable development over the long run, barring a reversion to anarcho-primitivism.

[Figlio di Moros]

That's assuming we don't run a neoliberal course until fuel reserves bottom out, which would probably set us back around a hundred years.

[ralfy]

The point is that technocracy is an alternative to the "global capitalist system", and cannot be judged by the same shortcomings of international capitalism. Furthermore, we already have the resources we need for the fixes; what we don't have is the general demand to put them in place.

I would say that, generally speaking, we need a post-Keynesian economic system in order to promote and put a technocracy in place.

Technocracy is not an economic system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy

A technocracy will take place, whether we like it or not, because of a combination of financial crisis in capitalist systems, a resource crunch, and environmental damage, except that it won't be what most expect.

[TechnocracyTNAT]

" WHAT CAN ONE DO TO HELP THIS THING ALONG?

There's only one thing you can do. You're entitled as an American to join with us as an educational-research organization to put forth a plan of design and operation of this continent for the production and distribution of abundance. We're not a political- party. We do not run candidates for political office. We're non-sectarian, non-profit, and non-political. Now Technocracy isn't going to install a Technate. Let's get that clear. When this won't operate, it will be the populace of Canada and United States. If any of you here are non-members -- how many here tonight are non-members -- will you raise your hands? Well, what do you want to do about it? Are you interested or do you want to join the Republican Party?

Now if you've got any illusions about the Republicans, Democrats, or the Holy Rollers, then you don't belong in here. We want you to make up your own mind. We want you tough enough so that when we shove you out the window, you hang on with your fingernails? because if you don't hang on with your fingernails and fall out, you're no good to us or yourself. We're not trying to persuade you. Move in under your own power. You can't get a political job out of it, and you'll damn soon find out who your friends are."

- HOWARD SCOTT PUBLIC LECTURE KENT, OHIO 8-31-51
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