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Many fascists are motivated by love for tradition, for archaic and noble cultural values which they want to preserve; a sentiment which I fully respect. However, I fear that fascism's biggest problem is that it contradicts its very purpose when put in political practice. For example, mussolinian fascism basically was more of a threat to traditional italian culture than anything. The aggressive nationalism tended to suppress the various particular realities of Italy, it pushed towards establishing the official italian language at the local dialect's cost and so on. As Pasolini said, fascism tried to assimilate italian society but (fortunately) failed to do so. In my opinion, fascism would work a lot better if it got rid of its virulent nationalism and took an evolaic turn instead.
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Yes and they didn't do much for Ethiopian culture. We're also still waiting to find to out exactly why the extermination of Jewish Poles and Polish Poles was necessary to fight international finance.
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For example, mussolinian fascism basically was more of a threat to traditional italian culture than anything.

The same is true for German Nazism as well. It was the Nazis who finally modernised German society, and it was the Nazis who finally broke the power and status of the Junkers.
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Andrea_Chenier wrote:Many fascists are motivated by love for tradition, for archaic and noble cultural values which they want to preserve; a sentiment which I fully respect. However, I fear that fascism's biggest problem is that it contradicts its very purpose when put in political practice. For example, mussolinian fascism basically was more of a threat to traditional italian culture than anything. The aggressive nationalism tended to suppress the various particular realities of Italy, it pushed towards establishing the official italian language at the local dialect's cost and so on. As Pasolini said, fascism tried to assimilate italian society but (fortunately) failed to do so. In my opinion, fascism would work a lot better if it got rid of its virulent nationalism and took an evolaic turn instead.


I always considered virulent nationalism to be what essentially defined fascism and distinguished it from the other major modern ideologies such as liberalism and socialism, which are both often internationalist and anti-nationalist (although not always).

Of course, one man's nationalism is another man's treasonous separatism. So for example, can you be both a Spanish national fascist and a Catalonian or Basque nationalist? History might very well say no. For instance, Franco opposed regionalism in Spain and tried to enforce the Castilian language on the entire country. As you mentioned, Mussolini tried the same thing in Italy. I know less about Nazi Germany, but I do believe that Hitler centralized the German political system and tried to suppress regionalism, for example, Bavarian nationalism.
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Mussolini had it right. Those petty differences between ethnic Italians kept them from fully realizing a national consciousness. Unfortunately for Mussolini, he chose one of the worst places to implement his ideology. Regional differences that you seem to praise are simply abstract concepts that serve to divide. If I could make a rather crude statement for the purpose of driving home a point, most of these Italians are identical when you cut them open or look at them.

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