starman2003 wrote: No comparison. There is no highly organized atheist movement, comparable to the church. As Greg Paul pointed out in a FREE INQUIRY article some time ago, atheism has made great strides despite lack of much organized effort to promote it--certainly nothing comparable to holy joe prosyletizing. The very fact that christianity was practically universal in western countries until fairly recently shows that atheism did not spread due to people being educated to accept it. Atheism is the fruit of increasing knowledge and progress. I was raised christian but repudiated that trash.
It is quite odd, even spooky, that atheists seem unable to recognise their own massive indoctrination programs for what they are. The Church does it fairly overtly, they know they are doing it and think they should
do it. Atheists have this weird blind spot: like the church they proselytise overtly and they think they should do it but at the same time seem totally in denial or unaware that they are
doing it. It's a bit fucked up to honest.
An example in 1869 in the UK the National Education League
lobbied parliament for:
Matters began to move forward, however, in 1869 when the recently formed National Education League began its campaign for free, compulsory and non-religious education for all children.
Various groups with a openly atheist agenda have incrementally lobbied government over the following century for ever more anti-religious provision in the indoctrination (oops I mean education of course
) to point where in compulsory
education religion especially Christianity it is entirely absent and / or mocked.
In fairness indoctrination of the young is a standard tactic in propagating an ideology so it would be weird if atheists were not doing it, and if one is an atheist then it is readily credible that they should think that they ought to do that because it is typical for people to believe that their beliefs are right and that everyone else should hold those beliefs too. That much I find uncontroversial, its just odd that over and over atheists deny they, or any of their ilk, are doing it and on a substantial scale too. It doesn't say much for atheist's intellectual honesty or their much trumpeted rigorous rationality.
starman2003 wrote:It stems from increased scientific knowledge making the "creator god" superfluous and from increasing human capability.
That's a narrative I have heard before but I don't buy it. The great rise in atheism occurred in countries where atheist teaching was propagated on a massive scale through compulsory, totally tax subsidised universal education. What religious institution using voluntary, fee or donation funded education could compete with that? Atheism scored because it managed to buy or otherwise win the backing of the state. Atheism is defacto state religion for many countries.