Dystopian Darkness wrote:Your belief that fascism fails because it rewards the worst in human nature needs a better explanation.
Again, people in the fascist gov't or their informers can use their power to take whatever they want from civilians in the society with impunity, due to the lack of gov't accountability and the overwhelming gov't power.
Yes, there are checks and balances against this in the form of people getting fed up and attacking gov't officials. This is called "revolution" and should not be considered an effective part of fascism.
First of all, I don't see how liberalism, neo-liberalism and capitalism reward the best in human nature.
I don't think they do. In fact, capitalism also rewards human flaws such as greed.
In my opinion of the best traits humans can have in fascist regimes is the idea of doing what's best for the State and not for your own self, even if that includes sacrifices - This may seem terrible at first but if you think about it the biggest flaw of liberalism is that everyone does what's best for himself and eventually our interests collide and ruin everything.
Yes, the other day, my neighbour wanted to go to church and I did not want to go to church. There was bloody and violent conflict for years. Oh wait, that didn't happen at all.
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Noob wrote:That's just Wikipedia's faulty description.
Okay.
- Non-democratic socialism (corporatism; opposed to the 'absolute democracy' of communism)
I think most socialists would strongly disagree with this definition of fascist economics, and I think that state capitalism would be a better description of fascist economics than corporatism, but whatever.
Jacobin-type nationalism (unifying and generally levelling all regional differences; fascism was a reorientation of socialism away from internationalism)
Yes, I believe I mentioned national unity and a lack of diversity.
You may like to believe that people are ordained from the heavens as liberals at birth, but you'll have a hard time proving that.
1. I do not believe that.
2. That has nothing to do with what I said.
Now, I made the observation that the trouble with fascism is that it is set up to reward flaws in human nature. As I mentioned to DD, I have explained why earlier in the thread.
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Saeko wrote:Fair enough. But why? Why do fascists do fascism?
I do not know. I can muse about possible motives, but I feel that might end up being less than polite for our fascist forum members.