- 30 Dec 2015 19:45
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Considering public beatings are considered an acceptable form of punishment for crime I rather think it is as unpleasant as I think. It's true that Singapore is far from being north Korea but it's also far from being particularly traditional as well. It is far closer to a fascist state than a traditionalist one, their ruling party rejects liberal democracy and endorses third way economics and comunitarianism. They completely reject the form of traditionalism you seem to be endorsing, which looks like conservative liberalism.
How do you not have values? Even if I tried very very hard I wouldn't be able to not have preferences.
Why should I not defend my point of view just because I don't believe it's universal or an objective truth? Asking me this on a debate forum no less!
You said it was an unpleasant state, not that it was necessarily a police state. The data I presented suggested that it was not an unpleasant place to live. I can't really verify the degree to which there is an overbearing police force, but Singapore is among the happiest countries in the world, so I would presume it doesn't police affairs as unpleasantly as you seem to think it does.
Considering public beatings are considered an acceptable form of punishment for crime I rather think it is as unpleasant as I think. It's true that Singapore is far from being north Korea but it's also far from being particularly traditional as well. It is far closer to a fascist state than a traditionalist one, their ruling party rejects liberal democracy and endorses third way economics and comunitarianism. They completely reject the form of traditionalism you seem to be endorsing, which looks like conservative liberalism.
If values are subjective, why do you have any values at all?
How do you not have values? Even if I tried very very hard I wouldn't be able to not have preferences.
And why would you debate with me about the validity of traditionalism if your own values aren't objective?
Why should I not defend my point of view just because I don't believe it's universal or an objective truth? Asking me this on a debate forum no less!
My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders.