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I have recently moved from ideological Gentilian Fascism to German National Socialism.

I am aware that this board has zero tolerance for Nazism - this will post will be short. I am simply posting this as an official endorsement of National Socialism, as I have in fact offered several elaborate denunciations of National Socialism in my former posts - I want it known that I no longer hold strictly to that philosophy.

I have come to understand that my reluctance to identity as National Socialist was based more on an appeal to my own vain intellectualism than anything tangible. As a parting statement I encourage all Fascists to embrace National Socialism. It is the only sane choice for white people.



Hail Victory.
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Well as Liberals we welcome diversity and will struggle to make sure you suffer no discrimination for your beliefs. Are their any things you find shocking , disturbing or offensive, you have a right to a safe space where you can study, learn and grow free from these negative to you influences.

I had a quick look at the forum and was immediately presented with what I can only describe as the dark side of Nazism: "The Beer Hall". Nazism origins in the beer halls of Munich is nothing to be proud of. Its a chapter of Nazism for which they should feel deep shame. Hitler may have been tee total, but his movement pandered to some of the most degenerate elements of Germanic culture.
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Rich wrote:I had a quick look at the forum and was immediately presented with what I can only describe as the dark side of Nazism: "The Beer Hall". Nazism origins in the beer halls of Munich is nothing to proud of.

The rise of NSDAP to power is nothing uncommon and specific for Germany, it is the standard technology of establishing a group that protects interests of some great power's in the country. Any left regime in any other country that has (had) left rule was established in a very similar way. And something that is so natural cannot be shameful. People really do not feel shame they shit every day, they must not be ashamed by the fact authoritarian collaborationist dictatorships grow from labor unions, mafia and 'beer halls'. That's life.
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Rich wrote:Well as Liberals we welcome diversity and will struggle to make sure you suffer no discrimination for your beliefs. Are their any things you find shocking , disturbing or offensive, you have a right to a safe space where you can study, learn and grow free from these negative to you influences.

Excellent sentiments Rich. I think liberalism not only welcomes diversity, but seeks to unify it. Not on the basis of conformity, but in recognition of the essential brotherhood of man. National Socialism is the antithesis of liberalism, it seeks to divide and exploit. It denies our roots as a species and proposes racial and ethnic dominance. It was organized under fascism, which is an ideology of strength. But fascism is a tool of national socialism, not vice versa. Fascism can and has served (ie: Rome, Charlemagne, etc.) to unite diversity and is not in and of itself an oppressive ideology.

Under the 3rd Reich, National Socialism failed. But ideas never die, and National Socialism is not dead. It still has a strong appeal to those who seek privilege and exaltation. And to those who seek strong, Paternal / Maternal leadership. Since WWII, It has not had the strong, charismatic, leader, it requires. Donald Trump is now flirting with it, but hasn't (and may not) commit himself. Combined with the Muslim intrusion in Europe and the moribund economic recession in America, it is gaining support. That creates a bandwagon effect that is most likely what dragged our friend into it. Expect it to grow during this election cycle in the US, and as discontent rises in Europe. It is essential to deny it political power ... if it achieves that, the ride gets rough.

I had a quick look at the forum and was immediately presented with what I can only describe as the dark side of Nazism: "The Beer Hall". Nazism origins in the beer halls of Munich is nothing to proud of. Its a chapter of Nazism for which they should feel deep shame. Hitler may have been tee total, but his movement pandered to some of the most degenerate elements of Germanic culture.

National Socialism has a different and somewhat unique morality. It encourages rather than denying baser instincts, then seeks to employ them on it's own behalf. If so employed, traditional immoralities become an asset and are commended. The individual is encouraged to accept that ANY activity that furthers National Socialism is morally correct. Traditional morality, that to some extent contained degerative behavior, is abandoned.

Zam
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Zamuel wrote:It is essential to deny it political power ... if it achieves that, the ride gets rough.


I can't imagine National Socialism gaining political power again, especially not in the US. I've long predicted the death of the present system, for many reasons. And I do believe this will result in part from a reaction against powerful zionist elements here. But national socialism--as opposed to better forms of authoritarianism--can hardly get enough support, or overcome great inevitable resistance, to win.
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Stormvessel

What is your attitude to non Aryans? Tactically you confine yourself to cornered position. Many Germans solve it by declaring themselves as left wing anti Zionists, which is much more clever.
#14643677
What is your attitude to non Aryans? Tactically you confine yourself to cornered position. Many Germans solve it by declaring themselves as left wing anti Zionists, which is much more clever.

Precisely. Nazism is a dead ideology. The only people who openly proclaim themselves to be National Socialists nowadays tend to be skinhead thugs with narrow foreheads or cosplay misfits whose only real ambition in life is to enjoy the look of shock on people's faces as they prance around in front of them while wearing Nazi uniforms.
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Potemkin wrote:The only people who openly proclaim themselves to be National Socialists nowadays tend to be skinhead thugs with narrow foreheads or cosplay misfits whose only real ambition in life is to enjoy the look of shock on people's faces as they prance around in front of them while wearing Nazi uniforms.

Which is precisely how national Socialism started in Germany ... Trump doesn't seem concerned about their support of him, he's encouraging it. And as we see here, intellectual support is growing ... pretty sure stormvessel isn't a skin head ?

Zam
#14643761
Zamuel wrote:Which is precisely how national Socialism started in Germany


There's no comparison. Back then there was no historical baggage.

Trump doesn't seem concerned about their support of him, he's encouraging it. And as we see here, intellectual support is growing


I've seen doubts raised about democracy, and they'll gradually increase. But nazis are going nowhere.
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I am surprised I am not banned.

I am not interested in making any formal statements as if I were important enough for this to matter. It doesn't really matter what I believe. I am not running for public office. I am inconsequential. When I say I have "embraced National Socialism", what I mean is that I have accepted National Socialist ideals, and believe that these ideals can solve the problems facing the west today. Of course it shouldn't be called National Socialism - but this is PoFO. Not the real world.

In response to the question asked concerning my views on "non-Aryans", I don't see the Aryan race in the same way the Germans of the 1930s did. It is my belief that if Rosenberg (who didn't actually create the concept but expounded on it) were alive today, he would reform his views on this issue, and that the Nazis might take a different approach.

Many ideologies have been reformed as people learn more about the world. Many ideologies from that time period held particular beliefs, even as a matter of policy, that do not exist today. The German Nazis just didn't live long enough to have that opportunity, and as a result the ideology is stuck in the late 1930s (pre-war). This is not a problem for me.

I don't actually deny race - just it's existence as something biologically absolute. I correctly view the races as loose clusters of observable genetic characteristics that came about from populations breeding in relative proximity over a span of time (in addition to micro-evolution). I am no biologist and therefore cannot make the call on this one way or another - but I do believe this is the correct scientific understanding.

I do not oppose Jews from a biological standpoint. I feel that certain cultural issues are found in much higher prevalence among Jews, but certainly these problems are not exclusive to Jews. I do not advocate holocaust denial or violence towards far-right sympathizing Jews (or even Jews as a whole).

I have embraced National Socialist ideals. I am not a mindless robot. I agree with some things and disagree with other things. But certainly I approve of the spiritual aesthetics of NS ideology. It is not perfect. I don't agree with everything. But I do agree with most things, and to the point that I now call myself a National Socialist.
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Stormvessel wrote:...
In response to the question asked concerning my views on "non-Aryans", I don't see the Aryan race in the same way the Germans of the 1930s did. ...

Then I am pleased to inform you that you are not a Nazi.
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The greatest error that the German anthropologists in the Nazi era made was classifying the Slavs as non-Aryans, who were to be enslaved and exterminated by Germans. The Indo-European or Aryan haplogroup R1a is found at around 50% in ethnic Russians, who are as Aryan as the Nordic people, if you ask modern-day geneticists.

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The Aryans are the Indo-European people who began to migrate into the Indian subcontinent around 1,700 BC. The Indo-Aryans are called the people of the Vedas in India, who may be genetically linked to the Yamnaya steppe herders from southern Russia with the shared haplogroup R1a.

We generated genome-wide data from 69 Europeans who lived
between 8,000–3,000 years ago by enriching ancient DNA libraries
for a target set of almost 400,000 polymorphisms. Enrichment of
these positions decreases the sequencing required for genome-wide
ancient DNA analysis by a median of around 250-fold, allowing us
to study an order of magnitude more individuals than previous
studies1–8 and to obtain new insights about the past. We show that
the populations of Western and Far Eastern Europe followed opposite
trajectories between 8,000–5,000 years ago. At the beginning of the
Neolithic period in Europe, 8,000–7,000 years ago, closely related
groups of early farmers appeared in Germany, Hungary and Spain,
different from indigenous hunter-gatherers, whereas Russia was inhabited
by a distinctive population of hunter-gatherers with high affinity
to a 24,000-year-old Siberian6. By 6,000–5,000 years ago, farmers
throughout much of Europe had more hunter-gatherer ancestry than
their predecessors, but in Russia, the Yamnaya steppe herders of this
time were descended not only from the preceding eastern European
hunter-gatherers, but also from a population of Near Eastern ancestry.Western
and Eastern Europe came into contact 4,500 years ago,
as the Late Neolithic Corded Ware people from Germany traced
75% of their ancestry to the Yamnaya, documenting a massive
migration into the heartland of Europe from its eastern periphery.
This steppe ancestry persisted in all sampled central Europeans until
at least 3,000 years ago, and is ubiquitous in present-day Europeans.
These results provide support for a steppe origin9 of at least some of
the Indo-European languages of Europe.
https://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reich/ ... e14317.pdf
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Stormvessel wrote:I am surprised I am not banned.

I'm not surprised about that.

Stormvessel wrote:But I do agree with most things, and to the point that I now call myself a National Socialist.

At this time ? I don't think there is any "Official" claim made to the perpetuation of a NAZI agenda ... However, at some point you may have to choose. A definite romantic undercurrent exists and is very exploitable. This was a choice MANY Germans had to make in the 1930s. Unless of course they just shoot you first ...

Zam
#14643881
Stormvessel,

I've been a lot of things on this forum at one time or another, and I think that you should reject the whole retrograde spectrum of Fascism/National Socialism, for your own good. Reject death and embrace life, reject Reaction and embrace Human Progress. You will be a happier human being, I assure you.
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ThirdTerm wrote:
The greatest error that the German anthropologists in the Nazi era made was classifying the Slavs as non-Aryans, who were to be enslaved and exterminated by Germans. The Indo-European or Aryan haplogroup R1a is found at around 50% in ethnic Russians, who are as Aryan as the Nordic people, if you ask modern-day geneticists.




Yeah, I am sure the guys who coined the term aryan thousands of years ago knew about haplogroups* and lol at ThirdTerm even suggesting that modern day genetics will even use the term aryan to describe any so called race.

What I mean to say is that the word "Aryan" was not used to describe any group of people but it simply meant something akin to "Respected Ms".

The nonsense about this so called aryan race that "19th century bored European aristocrats high on crack" started has no scientific or historical basis, to suggest that modern day genetics even give a fuck about it is ludicrous.
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