[Zamuel]

Racial Group is self definitive ...

Calling something "self definitive" is just another way of saying that it's nonsensical.

No it's another way of saying failure to understand the concept is nonsensical.

So the Aryan 'race' originated in Slovakia now?

More nonsense? No, that's one of the areas where the migration petered out. Even today there is a sense of differentiation in the area between Aryan and Slav, though it's not an animosity.

Zam

[Potemkin]

No it's another way of saying failure to understand the concept is nonsensical.

So you can't or won't define it then?

More nonsense? No, that's one of the areas where the migration petered out. Even today there is a sense of differentiation in the area between Aryan and Slav, though it's not an animosity.

I see.

[ThirdTerm]

The frequency of the Indo-European haplogroup R1a in Slovakia is about 40%, slightly lower than that of Russia. The Poles have the highest Indo-European ancestry in terms of R1a (60%), while it's only 20% in Austria, Hitler's birth place. It's ironic that the Poles should have been the Aryan master race. Haplogroup R* originated in Siberia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years before present) and Haplogroup R1a branched off from R1* after the LGM. Haplogroup R* was identified in the 24,000 year-old remains of the "Mal'ta boy" from the Altai region (Raghavan et al. 2013). I think Russia or Siberia is literally the motherland for many of us.

Haplogroups within the R1a Y-DNA haplogroup are commonly found among Slovaks, at a frequency of 40 percent of Slovak men. This haplogroup, also common among Hungarians, Poles, Ukrainians, and Austrians, is associated with the early Indo-Europeans. In terms of maternal genetic (mtDNA) haplogroups, most of those found among the Slovaks are also found among other peoples in Europe. However, 2.8 percent of their mtDNA lineages trace back to Roma ("Gypsy") women who had intermarried with Slovaks. Also, some eastern Slovaks carry the African mtDNA haplgroup L2a. Slovaks also have a M haplotype that's found in the Near East and among Italians.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/slovaks.html

[noir]

Perhaps recent events concerning the migrant crisis and reports of attacks have awoken something deep within me. Gentilian Fascism has socialist roots and is kind of preachy. That always stuck in my craw a little bit. I am still the same person with mostly the same beliefs - I am just swinging over to the right a little more. For me, it is the logical thing to do.

Leave the Aryan thing aside. Stormvessel says that the migrant crisis has awoken something deep on him. What is the solution? Can't recommend to return to German nationalism because you never know where it will lead. The 68ers revolted against everything they believed their parents represented and to cast doubt on German and middle-class ways of thinking and on the social order in general. In West Germany in the 1960s, that social order included a close relationship with the United States. It gave them meaning, stable patriotism and set of moral values, until the 68ers began to decry the Americanization of their denazified parents. The student generation’s anti-authoritarian, anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist stance led to current situation.

As far as we can see, the Muslim community in USA is less arrogant and knows its place unlike what the Europeans have to know from their Muslims.

[Zamuel]

As far as we can see, the Muslim community in USA is less arrogant and knows its place unlike what the Europeans have to know from their Muslims.

I don't know if I'd phrase it quite that way ... Devote Muslims here in Az. are a little self conscious, but not at all subservient. Given the Mestizo / Indian population they're not even that noticeable unless they dress the part ... Head scarfs are not that uncommon amongst native women. I've never noticed any arrogance from either Muslim gender. There was a small group of students at the U of A that tried to radicalize the ME ethnics, but they were quickly ostracized and gave it up. It's a very live and let live environment.

Zam

[noir]

Headscarf is like Kippah. The European Muslims allow themselves more than that. They are full of contempt toward their host countries, at least in Britain and in France.

[Dagoth Ur]

That is because Britain and France are full of contempt for them.

[noir]

That is because Britain and France are full of contempt for them.

Don't you think it's funny that the nations who cherish most the Third World cause and become multiculturalists ended to be despised by their new comers while in America they play the game?

[Dagoth Ur]

No I don't because we have distinctly different views of racism. Blacks and Native Americans are victims of racism for very specific historical reasons, but even these heavily disaffected groups are considered Americans by our "natives". In the UK and France "multiculturalism" means that you move in new cultures and you segregate them. There is no becoming French or English to the natives no matter how much they assimilate.

America isn't perfect at integration either. Our modern treatment of South Americans and Mexicans proves that.

[noir]

There is no becoming French or English to the natives no matter how much they assimilate.

[Conscript]

This thread is de-railed. So who else likes NS?

[noir]

This thread is de-railed. So who else likes NS?

He says he's confused.

[Dagoth Ur]

@consript: Just a bunch of edgy losers (the kind that yelled Heil Hitler while they were being executed during the night of long knives). Kinda like the real Hitler.

@noir: it doesn't matter to the english or the french how much you assimilate. Those that do are still Asains, or Arabs, or whatever slurs the french use. This refusal to take in non-natives who assimilate causes a feedback loop where migrants are increasingly taught to not waste their time ostracising themselves from their native community for an attempt at assimilation that will be automatically refused. Add to this that many minority nationalist groups and white nationalist groups in Europe have complimetary anti-assimilation outlooks and you got Europe's problem with integration.

[Orestes]

The Poles have the highest Indo-European ancestry in terms of R1a (60%), while it's only 20% in Austria, Hitler's birth place. It's ironic that the Poles should have been the Aryan master race.

Feels good, mane. Polish world domination when?

More nonsense? No, that's one of the areas where the migration petered out. Even today there is a sense of differentiation in the area between Aryan and Slav, though it's not an animosity.

In Slovakia? I'd like to hear some examples, any examples of what you mean, because frankly it sounds like you're off your rocker, Zam. The only long-standing "sense of differentiation" among Slovakians that I know of, is between them and Romas (the most hateful), them and Czechs, and them and the Hungarian minority.

[Conscript]

Polish world domination when?

When Poland can into national socialism

[Orestes]

That was sort of my secret handshake to you, I see we both frequent that dark place.

[Conscript]

Yes. After looking at your profile, I see you and I are polacks in more than one sense

[Zamuel]

In Slovakia? I'd like to hear some examples, any examples of what you mean, because frankly it sounds like you're off your rocker, Zam. The only long-standing "sense of differentiation" among Slovakians that I know of, is between them and Romas (the most hateful), them and Czechs, and them and the Hungarian minority.

Well, given that you call them "Slovakians" I'm not surprised you don't know much ... My wife's family has a rich heritage, they're Roman Catholics, which is an Aryan Tradition, from the old country, and were somewhat disappointed when my wife married outside the faith. -SO- I learned quite a bit about Slovak differentiation. Her Grandmother (1st generation American) would run down the family tree, and distinguish all the old Marriages HER mother had disapproved of because they were to Slavs or Rom ... And she would get teary about her cousins who died fighting the Nazis ... and proud about the ones who lived. I met some of their Slav friends visiting the US ... who talked a lot about their local Slavic Festivals ... I gather there are some fraternal organizations for the different heritages. Hunt clubs ? Though I don't think they actually HUNT much.

I'd compare it to the differences between my Grandmother's family ... Danish Andersons and Norwegian Loretsons ... Not really a lot of difference, but a definite attitude about it.

Zam

[Conscript]

Pfft, catholicism is an abrahamic religion forced down the throats of the the Aryan volk, at which point it enslaves them to universalist doctrine recognizes neither race, nor class, nor individual.

[Dagoth Ur]

Lol "forced on".