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starman2003 wrote:The US attacked to get him out of Kuwait. I don't think he ever seriously threatened saudi oilfields.
starman2003 wrote:It has nothing to do with "resource exploitation." Compared to its old enemies, Israel has no resources.
Israel has discovered more than 900 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas offshore, with some studies pointing to another 2,200 bcm waiting to be tapped. Along with the European market, it is exploring options to export to Turkey, Egypt and Jordan.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Saudi Arabia is a right wing dictatorship that is allied with the US.
mikema63 wrote:We do have a very complicated relationship with Pakistan full of us just straight up sending in drones after the taliban, sending in Navy seals to kill bin laden, etc. We've done everything but declare war directly.
blackjack21 wrote:Yeah, but invading Khafji is kind of like putting your big toe in the water to check the temperature. It's not like Iraqi troops got lost or something.
Just a heads up: it's time to rethink Israel in that respect. Off-shore gas is a pretty big deal with Israel now. They will definitely be about resource exploitation. As a net gas exporter, I would expect EU sentiments toward Israel to change.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Another reason why I would not support a fascist state is because I have no problem with Jews.
Pants-of-dog wrote:I also have no problem with other ethnic and religious minorities. So fascism is definitely out for me.
Oxymandias wrote:Can we continue our discussion on what would be your ideal fascist state if you were the ruler of it? I would like it if we could start over.
starman2003 wrote:That didn't happen until after the US and the coalition had launched the war. If Iraq had serious designs on Saudi oil it's big chance was in August 1990, right after taking Kuwait and before Desert shield began.
starman2003 wrote:I'm aware of that but Algeria has long been a gas producer, Egypt has also found offshore gas, and the arabs/Iran remain vastly more important as energy suppliers.
EU sentiments toward Israel btw are based on more than just energy. There's also the Palestinians.
starman2003 wrote:On the internet I've met many. There used to be a bunch like that in the AFP and right here in P&D pofo.
blackjack21 wrote:The US ground campaign didn't start in 1990. The air war started on 17 January 1991. It was hardly a wise choice of Saddam to invade Saudi Arabia at that point.
Yes, but the likelihood of getting pipelines built from Israel, Egypt and Cypress are better than getting them from Qatar or Iran.
So while the long-term still favors the gulf states, the near term practical ramifications would do a lot to make Europe more independent of Russia.
The economics also now favor a two-state solution with some of that gas being Palestinian.
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