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And from the depths of my heart, fuck your political correctness and fuck your "democracy".

I'd rather live in a kingdom in which at least the people are spiritually free, than live in a "democracy" whose people are mentally enslaved .


There is a reason Ancient Athens City-state was probably the peak of human civilisation, whilst our modern "free-world" has stagnated culturally and politically before it even begun.
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Code Rood wrote:Most (young) people are content with living meaningless lives, I'm sad to say. They have successfully been domesticated by people that are giving them Marvel, porn, videogames and so on. Their ''identity'' pretty much consists of collecting Star Wars figures and following their favourite football club. They fill up the void in their lives with stupid crap,...


Part of the problem is the times in which we live--pretty much the doldrums of history. A severe crisis would wake many of them up and foster real leadership and purpose.
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Verv wrote:For instance, anti-pronography is generally a religious thing, and often doesn't bother religionless people.

I've always found the prudery of Theists rather strange. I mean if you're an atheist you may well have a secret sexual fantasy, that you might feel shame or at the very least caution about revealing to others. If you believe in the Abrahamic God on the otherhand, I think of the Christian God as a sort of Yahweh 3.1, then you have to get used to the fact that you're being watched for every moment of your existence, from every angle at extremely high resolutions. God is very vigilant you know, even more vigilant than the guards assigned to Epstein's suicide watch.

But the other thing is that God knows everything that is going to happen before it happens. The corollary of this is that, what ever the most sick, disgusting, perverted sexual thought you have is, you can be absolutely certain that God has thought it first. Therefore you are just reflecting the mind of God. Remember the same applies to pornographic videos. Every frame of every porn film that will ever be made had already been visualised by God before the world even began.

BTW if you're uncomfortable with Theism then just take Hui Neng's word for it:
If all is void from the beginning where can the dust alight?
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Hellas me ponas wrote:Thus, yes today's youngsters are very authoritarian BUT they are closer to left and far left ideals than right.


I very much doubt it. Today's youth don't know the first thing about being left. They are simply extremist. They'll espouse any cause, left, right, vegan, islamist, ..., as long as it is extreme.

The energy of youth can be misdirected (as with Mao's red guards or Hitler's youth) or it can be directionless (as today), because it lacks a positive direction. There are plenty of worthwhile causes young people could dedicated their energy too instead of binge drinking or smashing up football stadiums. Permissive society doesn't dare giving young people a positive direction. Such a waste.
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Atlantis wrote:I very much doubt it. Today's youth don't know the first thing about being left. They are simply extremist. They'll espouse any cause, left, right, vegan, islamist, ..., as long as it is extreme.


I disagree. "The youth" of today are fighting the same battles that every generation fights, but are more drawn to "extremes" for very obvious reasons. I'm in my late twenties and already living through the second major global recession of my lifetime, which will of course do more damage to young people than the boomers, who are insulated by virtue of already having hoarded all of society's wealth.

Couple that with the fact that it will by today's young people who have to live through the effects of climate change, and it becomes pretty obvious why technocratic centrist capitalism isn't as appealing as it was in 1991.
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That just means they're just even more neoliberal than previous generations. It's not like the young generation is conservative or anything like that. Sometimes this is referred to as "centrism" as being anti-traditional while supporting corporate power supposedly makes one "beyond left and right."
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It's the paradox of poverty: the more poverty there is surrounding everyone, the less society will care about it.

Mentally people shutdown all the unpleasantness around them and start going into personal survival mode. It is somewhat analogous to the phenomena of "donor fatigue".

Another example, if you walk into a room and see a little spot of brown on the wall, you immediately wipe it off.
If you walk into a room and see the entire room dripping with sh(*)(*), you immediately turn around and walk out.
The problem is overwhelming, and there's the feeling that nothing you do will make a difference. And you don't want to get dirty yourself.
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Puffer Fish wrote:It's the paradox of poverty: the more poverty there is surrounding everyone, the less society will care about it.

Mentally people shutdown all the unpleasantness around them and start going into personal survival mode. It is somewhat analogous to the phenomena of "donor fatigue".

Another example, if you walk into a room and see a little spot of brown on the wall, you immediately wipe it off.
If you walk into a room and see the entire room dripping with sh(*)(*), you immediately turn around and walk out.
The problem is overwhelming, and there's the feeling that nothing you do will make a difference. And you don't want to get dirty yourself.


Dead on.
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Hellas me ponas wrote:Thus, yes today's youngsters are very authoritarian BUT they are closer to left and far left ideals than right.


Youngsters have many political opinions. Even they tend to affiliate to their class rather than any other factor like everyone else I guess.

Nonetheless the only thing I'd like to add is that the way Capitalism has formulated over time is that it has accumulated wealth to a select few who have decided to preserve it and the opportunities previous generations had have been lost for newer generations due to the contradictions of Capitalism and the search for greater profits by them. And the intellectual youth aren't stupid and will read the teachings of left-wing activists and be inspired. It is why I would say there is a generation gap in political thought today.

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