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Potemkin wrote:This is highly unlikely. We would have noticed by now. Any galactic civilisation which has been around for more than a few million years would have a pretty obvious presence.


On account of radio transmissions detectable by SETI? It's naive to think our current technical level remains standard among older civilizations.

So where are they? The Fermi Paradox is a real thing, @starman2003.


I know the UFO phenomenon tends to be marginalized but many of those best informed about it consider it a real thing and the answer to the Fermi paradox. Consider what Randle said, in conclusion, in his latest work:

"….if we understand anything about the Roswell case, it is that, other than the extraterrestrial, we have no answer."

Besides, the universe is still very young. Thirteen or fourteen billion years isn’t long at all, given the timescales required for stellar evolution and biological evolution.


Years ago, when I asked pro astronomers "at what point in the history of the universe did nucleosynthesis provide enough biogenic elements for the origin of life somewhere/anywhere?" a typical answer was "it all happened very fast…"

No, it’s very likely that we are the first advanced civilisation, in our galaxy at least.


Very unlikely IMO.
#15263608
NASA is also researching the UFO's phenoma:

NASA to Set Up Independent Study on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena

Editor’s Note: This article was updated on Dec. 22, 2022 to reflect an expanded terminology for ‘UAP,’ going from unidentified aerial phenomena to unidentified anomalous phenomena.

Audio: Media telecon on new Anomalous Phenomena Study

NASA is commissioning a study team to start early in the fall to examine unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) – that is, observations of events in the sky that cannot be identified as aircraft or known natural phenomena – from a scientific perspective. The study will focus on identifying available data, how best to collect future data, and how NASA can use that data to move the scientific understanding of UAPs forward.

The limited number of observations of UAPs currently makes it difficult to draw scientific conclusions about the nature of such events. Unidentified phenomena in the atmosphere are of interest for both national security and air safety. Establishing which events are natural provides a key first step to identifying or mitigating such phenomena, which aligns with one of NASA’s goals to ensure the safety of aircraft. There is no evidence UAPs are extra-terrestrial in origin.

“NASA believes that the tools of scientific discovery are powerful and apply here also,” said Thomas Zurbuchen, the associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “We have access to a broad range of observations of Earth from space – and that is the lifeblood of scientific inquiry. We have the tools and team who can help us improve our understanding of the unknown. That’s the very definition of what science is. That’s what we do.”

The agency is not part of the Department of Defense’s Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force or its successor, the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group. NASA has, however, coordinated widely across the government regarding how to apply the tools of science to shed light on the nature and origin of unidentified anomalous phenomena.

The agency’s independent study team will be led by astrophysicist David Spergel, who is president of the Simons Foundation in New York City, and previously the chair of the astrophysics department at Princeton University in Princeton, New Jersey. Daniel Evans, the assistant deputy associate administrator for research at NASA’s Science Mission Directorate, will serve as the NASA official responsible for orchestrating the study.

“Given the paucity of observations, our first task is simply to gather the most robust set of data that we can,” said Spergel. “We will be identifying what data – from civilians, government, non-profits, companies – exists, what else we should try to collect, and how to best analyze it.”

The study is expected to take about nine months to complete. It will secure the counsel of experts in the scientific, aeronautics, and data analytics communities to focus on how best to collect new data and improve observations of UAPs.

“Consistent with NASA’s principles of openness, transparency, and scientific integrity, this report will be shared publicly,” said Evans. “All of NASA’s data is available to the public – we take that obligation seriously – and we make it easily accessible for anyone to see or study.”

Although unrelated to this new study, NASA has an active astrobiology program that focuses on the origins, evolution, and distribution of life beyond Earth. From studying water on Mars to probing promising “oceans worlds,” such as Titan and Europa, NASA’s science missions are working together with a goal to find signs of life beyond Earth.

Furthermore, the agency’s search for life also includes using missions such as the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite and Hubble Space Telescope, to search for habitable exoplanets, while the James Webb Space Telescope will try to spot biosignatures in atmospheres around other planets – spotting oxygen and carbon dioxide in other atmospheres, for example, could suggest that an exoplanet supports plants and animals like ours does. NASA also funds space-based research that focuses on technosignatures – that is signatures of advanced technology in outer space -- from other planets.

Learn more about NASA’s astrobiology program online at:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-to-se ... phenomena/
#15264174
Sandzak wrote:NASA is also researching the UFO's phenoma:


Unfortunately, since the days of Project Sign, and Blue Book, all so called "research" is a facade. See The Alien Grand Design. The government has had the answers since Roswell, but to conceal its knowledge (and a liaison) it pretends to be ignorant, or claims the evidence is inconclusive.
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starman2003 wrote:Unfortunately, since the days of Project Sign, and Blue Book, all so called "research" is a facade. See The Alien Grand Design. The government has had the answers since Roswell, but to conceal its knowledge (and a liaison) it pretends to be ignorant, or claims the evidence is inconclusive.



I doubt this, Machiavelli wrote:"Conspiracy against the state works seldom."

Aliens would be a too big and too longlasting conspiracy, to hide from the population.
#15266904
Sandzak wrote:Homosexuality not

So would threesomes, one guy and two women be allowed under your new world order?
#15266986
Sandzak wrote:I doubt this, Machiavelli wrote:"Conspiracy against the state works seldom."


Coverup and disinfo are the work of the state.

Aliens would be a too big and too longlasting conspiracy, to hide from the population.


Present government has a very strong incentive to conceal proof and if that weren't enough, ET himself doesn't want to be openly revealed yet.
#15267170
Rich wrote:So would threesomes, one guy and two women be allowed under your new world order?


Each guy dreams of threesomes. ;-) therefore it is O.K. but polygamists I would also send to Mars.

I have no problem with gays, but I think it should be symbolically be forbidden (monetary fines) to protect the family values.


It is an unhealthy lifestyle, who causes a lot of costs for the healthcare.


Homesex is not a human right according the UN.


the four lines of evidence were consistent with previous findings suggesting that homosexual activity may be associated with a lifespan shortened by 20 to 30 years.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9923159/




OVER HALF of people with HIV are gay and bisexual men

https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/do ... sm-508.pdf







Just 10% of prison inmates are women but for colonisation of outer space are 50% (further groups have to be included)

A prisoninmate costs about 100'000 $ per year

source: https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost

For 100'000 bucks per year, it would be cheaper to send them to Mars (except sexual criminals and murderers).
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#15267171
starman2003 wrote:Coverup and disinfo are the work of the state.



We simply do not know it but there are whistleblowers and traitors who work for 2 sides... and there has been no evidence to find in the Soviet archives (after the collapse every dirty Soviet secret came to light).


Secret Services have to cease to exist (transparency).




Post Scriptum

You admire Napoleon, me too:

#15267197
Sandzak wrote:We simply do not know it but there are whistleblowers and traitors who work for 2 sides…


:lol: In the UFO field, so called "whistleblowers" are just misinfo agents. See The Alien Grand Design. Lazar, Keyhoe and Hellyer were among the many examples. Even Friedman was deceptive and served the same agenda as the government.

and there has been no evidence to find in the Soviet archives (after the collapse every dirty Soviet secret came to light).


But there was no real Russian Roswell. All claims of this kind were hoaxes. It seems only the US has had incontrovertible proof.


You admire Napoleon, me too:


:)
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