[Mercenary]

In a capitalist market system it is not unethical so long as it is presents itself as a fair exchange in the market

What relevance does an economics system have on the ethical distribution of pornography? I suppose it is ethical for me to sell weapons of mass destruction to terrorists, as long as it is a fair exchange.

[Scheherazade]

] Quote me where I said that, or shut the fuck up. Lying doesn't make your argument 'edgey'.

You didn't have to say it, you admitted it by logically contradicting yourself.

So some ignorant morons in one state represent the whole country? Really? That's your big argument? Canada implemented homosexual marriage in 2004. They didn't need to take a vote to the ignorant masses to know that it was morally principled to make it law. I guess this only emphasizes how morally backwards Californians(and your ilk) are.

See you're again admitting that morality is objective, since before you claimed what the majority of "society" thinks determines what is moral - now you're contradicting yourself, and saying that opposing homosexual marriage is objectively immoral regardless of what society says.

You don't know what the word "objective" means, do you? You admit to being a bigot and homophobe. Is that it?

So you're admitting being a bigot and a homophobe is objectively immoral, even if the majority of society disagrees with you? Thanks for proving me right again. Debunking relativists is so easy.

It's a good thing I don't care what Muslims, and idiots, think of my morality. They are free to think what they will, and I won't kill them for it, unlike Muslims and those who would persecute others for THEIR views.

You consider persecution of people with different views to be moral, don't you? It doesn't matter if they are harmful, or not, but simply the state of being different is enough for you to vilify them.

...but if morality is subjective, then there's nothing 'wrong' with persecuting and villying people just for being different if people decide so. Since you're admitting this is objectively wrong regardless of whether or not people decide so, you've proven me right that morality is objective and universal, regardless of what society says. He he.

Your views are hideous and archaic.

You believe this is an objective truth, since if you count the global population, most would disagree with you. So thanks for proving everyone right that morality is objective.

[Godstud]

You didn't have to say it, you admitted it by logically contradicting yourself

Maybe, just maybe, start off by not lying. Your perceptions of what I say are not accurate. Your thought processes are obviously too slow and inaccurate to convey what I am saying, if you think that I said objective, when I clearly said subjective. You cannot quote what I said, because it would mean that what I am saying is true.

Do you think that lying makes your arguments stronger?

[Hong Wu]

I won't be able to "field test" this until I have some kids, but I'm a big believer in epigenetics. I think that the way we act influences how our children come out. One of the reasons I believe this is because my dad had a total of four sons ("that he knows about" ), two with my mother and two with another woman that I tried to like but who didn't reciprocate. To get to the point though, I noticed that his first son came out a lot like me (I'm the older brother) and the second son came a lot like my younger brother. In both instances he was supposedly pretty serious about the family thing when the first kid was made but was getting to be over it by the time the second one came out. So my presumption is that this change in his attitude may have influenced the predispositions of his children.

What does this have to do with pornography? Well, I think that watching porn is among other bad things, an indicator that you're not really trying very hard. I think that not trying can have more implications than might otherwise be immediately obvious.

[Godstud]

Well, I think that watching porn is among other bad things, an indicator that you're not really trying very hard. I think that not trying can have more implications than might otherwise be immediately obvious.

Lots of people who ARE getting sex, look at porn. Assuming that people who aren't having sex are the only ones watching porn, would be terribly inaccurate.

[Mercenary]

Pornography does cultivate sexual perversion, but I appreciate having it as an outlet in the past. I would of grown to be an abomination without it.

There are arguments that pornography and certain soft drugs are gateways. Sometimes, but usually not.

[Mercenary]

What does this have to do with pornography? Well, I think that watching porn is among other bad things, an indicator that you're not really trying very hard. I think that not trying can have more implications than might otherwise be immediately obvious.

You would be wrong to believe that only the sexually inactive watch pornography. In my experience, the most sexually active tend to be the most addicted to pornography. Additionally, there are many people that prefer masturbation to sex.


Oh, and I almost forgot about couples. There are a lot of couples that watch pornography together.

[Hong Wu]

That's not what I meant when I said "not trying". I meant that the person is probably not trying spiritually. Pornography reduces sex to a material and meaningless act, probably even more than recreational or casual sex does.

I personally believe that in an ideal setting, almost every act has some spiritual or transcendental significance, pornography doesn't fit into that.

There is also the more subtle issues of how being a porn star is harmful to those involved, particularly the women, I don't intend to debate that here but it is part of how pornography fails to contribute.

[Mercenary]

You can embrace sensation without surrendering serenity.

If you are striving for some heavenly nirvana, I am sad to say that there isn't one. Maybe there is a continuation of the spirit after death, but that is not going to be influenced by how many times you jack off.

[Scheherazade]

You would be wrong to believe that only the sexually inactive watch pornography. In my experience, the most sexually active tend to be the most addicted to pornography.

...in my experience people serving in active duty military are the most likely to become Call of Duty addicts who think they're macho because they can "pwn noobs" - yeah right.

Additionally, there are many people that prefer masturbation to sex.

...not by choice.

Oh, and I almost forgot about couples. There are a lot of couples that watch pornography together.

Fred and Rosemary West abused and killed children together.

People with deviant behaviors often tend to seek out someone else to enable them, so they can hide from reality in a self-referential bubble and pretend that aberrant behavior isn't really so, "safe spaces" and all that jazz.

Nothing I enjoy better than busting those little bubbles of theirs and slapping them in the face with the hard truth of objective morality, which they can't hide from no matter how hard they wish they could.

[Scheherazade]

Lots of people who ARE getting sex, look at porn. Assuming that people who aren't having sex are the only ones watching porn, would be terribly inaccurate.

Then they must be terrible in bed, if looking at pictures is more exciting than the real thing.

Sorry but you don't hear about many people who are combat vets becoming addicts to 'pwning noobs' on Call of Duty games, so your claim is highly unlikely.

So it either appeals to the sexless, or those who are horrible at lovemaking, either way it's still 'affirmative action' for the sexually stunted, and serves no productive purpose other than to cater to the adolescent whims of society's less civilized elements.

[Godstud]

Then they must be terrible in bed, if looking at pictures is more exciting than the real thing.

Try it, you might learn something. Assuming something from a position of ignorance is stupidity, at it's finest.

Sorry but you don't hear about many people who are combat vets becoming addicts to 'pwning noobs' on Call of Duty games, so your claim is highly unlikely.

Absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Troll harder.

So it either appeals to the sexless, or those who are horrible at lovemaking, either way it's still 'affirmative action' for the sexually stunted, and serves no productive purpose other than to cater to the adolescent whims of society's less civilized elements.

Don't judge that which you know nothing about. Education is your worst enemy, isn't it? Do you think the Kama Sutra was made to educate about sex, or denigrate sex? Be honest.

[anasawad]

For us, me and Lina sometimes watch porn, rarely, but does happen. Never to actually get off of it, but rather to see if there is something we should try.
Kama Sutra was diffinitly the best thing to happen to us when we first got married. Both were virgins and honestly we didn't know much what to do.


For the video games comment.
I am a border defence soldier, fought against ISIS on the Lebanese borders, which if i understood it correctly makes me a veteran, though a new one not an old one. And i play video games with my wife all the time, specially strategy games, like starcraft and Dota. Its actually quite fun and strengthen our relationship, one of many things. So.... yea, video games aren't really related here so ?

[Hong Wu]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/porn-may-mes ... tml?ref=gs

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Men who report watching a lot of pornography tend to have less volume and activity in regions of the brain linked to rewards and motivation, says a new German study.

[quetzalcoatl]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/porn-may-messing-head-202420648.html?ref=gs

In which direction is the causation? Men who have less active reward areas watch porn, or men who watch porn have less active reward areas?