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What if it is relevant though? Maybe the speed of light varies as god wants it to vary and there is no pattern to discover and scientists are just wasting their time on chance correlations that they think they have found?
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@Potemkin
Because the law you're refering to specifies phase velocity not speed.
And because as explained many times, while the speed of light does not change, the average speed (since its changing between c and 0), velocity, phase velocity, etc changes depending on the scale and type of measurement you're taking.
When you're measuring the speed of light macroscopically, you're measuring either the average speed or the velocity. Not the abstract speed.

I wont concede anything when 'm the one using the right terminology and you guys aren't with it being supported.

If you want to know more accurately why saying plainly speed changes not the other measurements is simply wrong, you can look up at the details of the refractive index law and see which changes are the ones actually happening and what are they called.
Saying the speed of light changes is, though common among many, wrong. Its simply not scientifically accurate.
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anasawad wrote:@Potemkin
Because the law you're refering to specifies phase velocity not speed.
And because as explained many times, while the speed of light does not change, the average speed (since its changing between c and 0),

You mean to say it actually stops??
In the words of John_McEnroe...............
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Light is absorbed and re-emitted. Thats what 've been saying all along, if you measured atomically, then the speed is constant because those doesn't count in the measurments.
When you measure on a distance, those are counted within thus it would appears that speed slowed down. But due to those changes, its called average speed, which you yourself pointed out BTW. And if you're measuring on light it self, what changes is phase velocity due to these interactions.
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anasawad wrote:Light is absorbed and re-emitted. Thats what 've been saying all along, if you measured atomically, then the speed is constant because those doesn't count in the measurments.
When you measure on a distance, those are counted within thus it would appears that speed slowed down. But due to those changes, its called average speed, which you yourself pointed out BTW.

I didn't. It is an irrelevance.
The magnitude may get attenuated. That has nothing to do with speed.
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