Sivad wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... Production
Now they just throw dissidents in gen pop, but Cuba had some pretty brutal gulags after the revolution.
From your link:
"Still left to consider was the case of misplaced elements, deadbeats, those who neither studied nor worked. What can be done with these people? This question was the worrying concern for the leaders of the Revolution. One day in November of last year, 1965, a group of military officials met to discuss these questions. They spoke with Fidel, who shared these concerns and proposed to him the creation of the UMAP."
Third-party testimony of UMAP camps
Paul Kidd, a Canadian foreign news correspondent, provides the only known first-hand, third party account of the UMAP camps. Kidd traveled to Cuba on August 29, 1966 to write for Southam News Service.[7] On September 8, the Cuban foreign ministry asked him to leave "by the first flight" because he took photographs of anti-aircraft guns visible from his hotel room window and exhibited an incorrect attitude toward the revolution in an article he had published earlier.[7]
During this trip, Kidd departed Havana and wandered through the rural, former province of Camaguey where he encountered a UMAP labor camp near the hamlet of El Dos de Cespedes.[8] The barbed-wire enclosed camp was run by 10 security guards and held 120 internees, consisting of Jehovah's Witnesses, Roman Catholics, and "those loosely termed 'social misfits' by the government".[8] The ages of the inmates ranged from 16 years old to over 60.[8] None of the internees were given arms; all weapons at the camp were under the control of the ten guards running the camp.[8]
The internees worked an average of 60 hours a week for a monthly income of 7 pesos (roughly worth a meal) and their internment typically lasted for at least six months.[8] Cubans who served in the standard SMO ("Servicio Militar Obligatorio", Obligatory Military Service) received the same monthly wage of 7 pesos a month.[9]
As long as their agricultural quotas were met, most internees at the camp were allowed a break to visit family after six months of internment.[8] Family members were allowed to visit internees at the camp on the second Sunday of each month and could bring personal items such as cigarettes to internees.[8]
So, the people who worked there were unemployed and not students. They received the same wages as the soldiers who were running the camp, they were allowed to leave, and their families knew where they were and could visit them and bring them stuff.
This is far less harsh than the sentences given to draft dodgers in the USA at the same time, who were being punished for roughly the same offence: not taking part in obligatory government service.
And since there is no evidence for any of these other groups operating gulags, I think we can agree that @SolarCross is incorrect when he claims that all socialists kill people in gulags.
Nazi apologists make similar claims about the concentration camps. They show pictures of swimming pools, sports matches, theaters, etc. Go read some of the better nazi apologists, you'd be amazed how much you have in common.
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