[jimjam]

The only movement I can vouch for as committed to its course is the TEA party. It is grassroots emotion born out of genuine concern for the nation's woes.

Not to mention millions and millions of genuine dollars funneled to teabag groups from the Koch Boys, 1-800-contacts, Johnson and Johnson, Shaw industries, General Electric, Exxon Mobil, State Farm, Philips Lighting and many other Secret Sugar Daddies via various shell money conduits such as Americans For Prosperity and FreedomWorks.

jimjam posits that two subsidiaries wholly owned by the plutocracy, the Democrat and Republican parties, are also committed to their course; that of making the rich richer and assuring that the poor get beer and video games.

you cannot silence the majority

Did you get that kids? The "majority" of Americans are teabags. Whooo Boy! This guy is out there.

[The Immortal Goon]

The actual rules:

“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."
“Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Of course the libertarians are quick to come in and back up any insane conspiracy theory without an ounce of sense to it. Regardless, this thread is debunked. Move along.

[rik]

:lol:

He is back! Helleluyah! I was beginning to get worried the other time when he had a post not plastered with emoticons.

Alinski's ideas used to be embraced by just liberals. Today, we have even establishment republicans joining the socialists.

I believe in capitalism. Before capitalism, there was rampant poverty in the world. When socialist Europe is seeing it's population move to Africa to look for work, you know socialism is a mess.

Amount wasted on socialist phony war on poverty $15.9 TRILLION. With this kind of massive expenditure, shouldn't the war have been won by now? Yet there is more poverty than ever. This alone is proof that socialism does not work. It has never worked anywhere. That doesn't stop liberal socialist types among us from pushing for it though.

These anti-Americans are following Alinski's rule #8. Class Warfare – Divide the people to cause discontent. Rather than preach unity among Americans, liberals are pushing division, balkanization, strife among the people.

[jimjam]

These anti-Americans are following Alinski's rule #8. Class Warfare – Divide the people to cause discontent. Rather than preach unity among Americans, liberals are pushing division, balkanization, strife among the people.

A primary weapon used by the plutocracy in the world's oldest war, class warfare, is to deny and pretend that no such war exists. The peons are expected to swallow this rather obvious falsehood and, if it is ever disputed, the disputers are immediately attacked by the propaganda organs of the plutocracy as being dangerous radicals who are fanning the flames of a class warfare that does not exist. The above picture captures class warfare at its most acute: the River Rouge Massacre:

March 7,1932 was a bitterly cold day in Detroit, and a crowd estimated at between 3,000 and 5,000 gathered near the Dearborn city limits, about a mile from the Ford plant. The Detroit Times called it "one of the coldest days of the winter, with a frigid gale whooping out of the northwest". Marchers carried banners reading "Give Us Work, "We Want Bread Not Crumbs", and "Tax the Rich and Feed the Poor". The march proceeded peacefully along the streets of Detroit until it reached the Dearborn city limits. There, the Dearborn police attempted to stop the march by firing tear gas into the crowd, and began hitting marchers with clubs. One officer fired a gun at the marchers. The crowd scattered into a field covered with stones, and then began throwing stones at the police. The angry marchers regrouped and advanced nearly a mile toward the plant. There, two fire engines began spraying cold water onto the marchers from an overpass. The police were joined by Ford security guards, and began shooting into the crowd. Joe York, Coleman Leny and Joe DeBlasio were killed, and at least 22 others were wounded by gunfire.

Today it is rarely necessary to shoot peons down in the street to get them back in their proper place. The plutocracy has installed effective propaganda and brainwashing methods and is able to control the peons with a steady flow of self serving fairy tales. Yes kids, there is no such thing as class warfare. All economic classes live together in perfect harmony .

[Davea8]

The whole system is corrupt. Right, left, center, you name it, they're all corruptible. The only movement I can vouch for as committed to its course is the TEA party. It is grassroots emotion born out of genuine concern for the nation's woes.

LOL!!!!!!! A Republican offshoot, fully recovered and owned by republicans, " is grassroots emotion born out of genuine concern for the nation's woes"?? LOL!!! I'm sure you would like that to be true.

And you seem to lack the integrity and honesty to confront the fact that your 8 "Saul Alinsky points" are mere right wing BS lies that were never said nor written by Saul Alinsky.

Let's see if you possess the honesty to read and comment on this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp

and CONSERVATIVE Georgie Anne Geyer...

"Well, I have a message for them: Relax. Worry about other things. For Saul Alinsky was a close friend for 12 years and was in fact one of the more truly "conservative" men I ever met, pro-American almost to the point of embarrassment." http://www.uexpress.com/georgieannegeyer/2007/4/12

[Xbow]

You create a Communist Socialist State when the overwhelming bulk of the wealth of a country is in the hands of a tiny percentage of the population. There seems to be ignition point and that point is I believe when the greed index of the hogs reaches the point at which the majority of the people are paid so inadequately that they can no longer support themselves without taking handouts and scrounging. It is at that point that the people develop the insatiable desire to exercise their right to rev-up the chainsaws and start kicking ass and taking heads. Communist states are always created by the excesses of the rich. Don't hold your breath but with 40% of the workers making just 25% to 35% over the federal minimum wage we are approaching that point very rapidly.