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Trump team says 'move on,' after Obama calls for cyber-hacking probe

Donald Trump’s presidential transition team late Friday criticized President Obama's order for a full-scale review of campaign-season cyber-attacks allegedly linked to Russia, saying it’s “time to move on.”

Trump has been repeatedly dismissive of the intelligence community's determination that Russia sought through hacking to disrupt the U.S. election, which he won in a stunning upset over Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

“The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It's now time to move on and `Make America Great Again,’ ” the transition team said. "These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.”

The investigation ordered by Obama will be a "deep dive" into a possible pattern of increased "malicious cyber activity" timed to the campaign season, White House spokesman Eric Schultz said Friday.

On Saturday, New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, the next Senate minority leader, called for the Republican-led Congress to address the issue.

“Reports of the CIA’s conclusion that Russia actively sought to help elect Donald Trump are simultaneously stunning and not surprising, given Russia’s disdain for democracy and admiration for autocracy,” Schumer said. “Senate Democrats will join with our Republican colleagues next year to demand a congressional investigation and hearings to get to the bottom of this.”

The administration probe will include looking into the email hacks that rattled the presidential campaign. It also will look at the tactics, targets, key actors and the U.S. government's response to the hacks, as well as incidents reported in past elections,.

The president ordered the report earlier in the week and asked that it be completed before he leaves office next month, Schultz said.

The Washington Post reported Friday that the CIA has concluded that Russia aimed specifically to help Trump, a Republican, win the presidency.

The Kremlin has rejected the hacking accusations.

In the months leading up to the election, email accounts of Democratic Party officials and a top Clinton campaign aide were breached, emails leaked and embarrassing and private emails posted online. Many Democrats believe the hackings benefited Trump's bid.

Schultz said the president sought the probe as a way of improving U.S. defense against cyberattacks and was not intending to question the legitimacy of Trump's victory.

Obama's move comes as Democratic lawmakers have been pushing Obama to declassify more information about Russia's role, fearing that Trump, who has promised a warmer relationship with Moscow, may not prioritize the issue.

The White House said it would make parts of the report public and would brief lawmakers and relevant state officials on the findings.

It emphasized the report would not focus solely on Russian operations or email hacks involving Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta and Democratic National Committee accounts. The emails were made public by WikiLeaks.

Schultz said intelligence officials would be reviewing incidents going back to the 2008 presidential campaign, when the campaigns of Sen. John McCain and Obama were breached by hackers.

The intelligence community has already concluded that Russia-backed actors likely were involved in breaching and releasing the Democratic Party emails.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has denied the Russian government or any other “state parties” were the source for the 50,000 emails, which fueled weeks of embarrassing coverage for the Clinton campaign detailing behind-the-scenes discussions and arguments among advisers and family members.

Many Democrats believe the disclosures in emails stolen from Democratic Party officials and Podesta’s account benefited Trump.

Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway told “Fox & Friends” on Friday that Democrats “won’t learn the lessons” from the 2016 race.

"A little self-awareness would do for a team that is blaming everybody but themselves for this. It’s Bernie Sanders’ fault … It’s the alt-right’s fault," she said. "It’s … fake news’ fault. It’s Russian interference. It’s James Comey. ... How about you had no message?"

Fox News’ Chad Pergram, Jake Gibson and Catherine Herridge and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Benghazi? Better study that for 20 years. Pizzagate? Need to disprove that. Hacking? Eh, no biggie.

My favorite part is how the right says "this is the same CIA that said Saddam had nukes", which is ironic as fuck.
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I kind of agree with Trump on this one. Russian hacking played no effective role in changing the outcome of the election, as far as we know.

It's best to let the intelligence agencies conduct a private investigation and present the results at a classified Congressional hearing.
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quetzalcoatl wrote:I kind of agree with Trump on this one. Russian hacking played no effective role in changing the outcome of the election, as far as we know.

It's best to let the intelligence agencies conduct a private investigation and present the results at a classified Congressional hearing.

I agree, but the point isn't to change the election. It is a matter of security if Russia is actively hacking officials. Brushing that investigation off is horribly ill advised.
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Zagadka wrote:I agree, but the point isn't to change the election. It is a matter of security if Russia is actively hacking officials. Brushing that investigation off is horribly ill advised.


The point is to deligitimize the next president. It's another "Obama is really a Kenyan Muslim" spiel, this time by the other party. :roll:
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Frollein wrote:The point is to deligitimize the next president. It's another "Obama is really a Kenyan Muslim" spiel, this time by the other party. :roll:

It is irrelevant who is president if our systems are being accessed by the Russians. I don't see how it equates with "Obama is a secret Muslim" in any way, unless you say "Trump is a secret Russian", which is not being the case discussed here. Framing it at all in terms of the election is disingenuous. NOT investigating these facts is far more risky than upsetting Trump's tummy. By closing down a legitimate CIA investigation, he is introducing severe risk for our national security. You may not give a shit about that, but I do.
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What, "Trump is president by grace of Russia" is not delegitimizing? Because that's how it's gonna be stuck in the public's mind, and be used against political opponents. So yes, it is an "Obama is a Muslim" strategy. If it really was just about security concerns, they wouldn't have made such a media spectacle out of it. You can investigate these things without alerting the public.
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Frollein wrote:What, "Trump is president by grace of Russia" is not delegitimizing? Because that's how it's gonna be stuck in the public's mind

No accounting for the forces of idiocy and partisanship.

Because YOU keep framing the issue in the term of the elections is irrelevant to any investigation into actual security breaches that NEED to be attended to.
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What ever happened to criticism being a cornerstone of democracy?


This is not criticism. This is the Globalist using any means at their disposal to retain control. They are using Liberals just like Communists used African Americans in the 60's and 70's.
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One Degree wrote:This is not criticism. This is the Globalist using any means at their disposal to retain control. They are using Liberals just like Communists used African Americans in the 60's and 70's.

When did the CIA get taken over by an organized liberal plot? It seems to be fluid depending on the nature of the crime charged.
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I don't recall the WaPo article which resurrected this talking point naming any of their sources. It appears to be the same story a story before being rehashed with Obama contemporaneously setting up an investigation to make it look more real. Odds of this being done if Hillary had won are zero. Obama and Hillary both said that the elections couldn't be rigged or interfered with back when they thought they were going to win.
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It is kinda funny how instantly you all jump to defend your boy Trump, when this has nothing to do with him. You'd really let the shark feast in fear of making the bodyguard look bad.

Sorry for the triggers, I'll include warnings next time.
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It is kinda funny how instantly you all jump to defend your boy Trump, when this has nothing to do with him. You'd really let the shark feast in fear of making the bodyguard look bad.

Sorry for the triggers, I'll include warnings next time.


It is not really about defending Trump. This election made it crystal clear the Democrats are corrupt and are supported by a corrupt media. As long as Obama is still in office, many are not going to believe anything coming out of the government.
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One Degree wrote:It is not really about defending Trump. This election

This is not about attacking Trump.

This has nothing to do with the election. The election is over.

This has to do with a foreign power hacking our systems.

A concerned citizen told "The CIA has come to the conclusion that Russians are hacking our leaders" will respond with "oh shit, investigate that"

A partisan tool says "you're trying to do something bad to my politician (well after the fact of the election), let's stop investigating national security issues"

So have fun with that.
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This has to do with a foreign power hacking our systems.


Then why is it that a county government in Indiana paid a $20,000 ransom to have their computer system unlocked by hackers and yet this did not even make national news? Oh, that's right, Indiana is republican.
Where is the CIA investigation into this? Just this being possible lends credence that our government has absolutely no control over hacking, let alone being able to determine it was Russia.
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Zagadka wrote:It is kinda funny how instantly you all jump to defend your boy Trump,

This has everything to with Trump. The hacking of Clinton and the Democrats was critical to Trump's victory. Its very unlikely that Trump would have won with out it. If the Russians were behind it then we owe them for keeping that Sunni terrorist loving, Jewish supremacist lackey Clinton out of the Whitehouse.
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One Degree wrote:Then why is it that a county government in Indiana paid a $20,000 ransom to have their computer system unlocked by hackers and yet this did not even make national news? Oh, that's right, Indiana is republican.
Where is the CIA investigation into this?

Dunno, why didn't you make a thread with the details of that?

Rich wrote:If the Russians were behind it then we owe them for keeping that Sunni terrorist loving, Jewish supremacist lackey Clinton out of the Whitehouse.

Ladies and gents, your defender of democracy. Level headed and open to the truth. Sorry, he'd probably prefer The Truth as not told by the lizard people.

The function of the CIA seems to vary. When a Democrat is in office, it is a liberal conspiracy. When a Republican is in office, they are heroes defending our nation from foreign saboteurs.
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