[Sivad]

[jimjam]

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[Sivad]

[Godstud]

Fox News as a source??

[Ter]

CNN Fair persuasion ? Neutral ??


That makes the whole diagram worthless.

[Godstud]

@Ter All this shows is that you don't know how to read a fucking graph.

CNN is on the border between fair and unfair, but it's relatively neutral.

[Ter]

@Ter All this shows is that you don't know how to read a fucking graph.

CNN is on the border between fair and unfair, but it's relatively neutral.

All this shows is that you are so affected by TDS that you believe that CNN is somewhat believable, lol.
CNN is complete fake news, very bigly so.
It should be totally at the very bottom of believability.
So my previous post is correct : your graph is not believable at all.

[Godstud]

You used to make intelligent and insightful posts. Times change, I guess. Now you're just another Trump fan-boy, spouting right wing talking points, and using poor vocabulary.

[Ter]

:lol: You used to make intelligent and insightful posts. Times change, I guess. Now you're just another Trump fan-boy, spouting right wing talking points, and using poor vocabulary.

You always spout such ad hom nonsense when cornered
Let the reader decide who is right... you saying that CNN is almost completely neutral and factual or me calling them fake news.

[colliric]

You always spout such ad hom nonsense when cornered
Let the reader decide who is right... you saying that CNN is almost completely neutral and factual or me calling them fake news.

I agree with you on this point Ter. CNN is terrible these days. Nowhere near neutral at all. Godstud does have that arguementative habit sometimes.

P.S.

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I watched Fiddler On The Roof('71 movie) for about the 150th time yesterday.... One of my favourites, when I saw it live onstage it was also with Chaim Topol as Tevye during the Melbourne run of his retirement tour!

I am no Zionist but I do like Jewish culture and Jewish people(technically including Jesus of Nazareth of cause)

[Godstud]

@colliric Just because CNN reports that the POTUS lies on a regular basis isn't NOT neutral. You simply don't like what the facts are, and so are seeking to discredit any MSM outlet in your pathetic attempt to protect a pathologically lying and corrupt businessman, who is currently POTUS. You're doing what Trump wants you to do, since he's said all MSM is fake, unless it's his Fox and Friends(his propaganda network), of course...

@Ter Is being enamored of a traitorous lying piece of shit worse than "TDS"? I think so.

[Sivad]

[colliric]

@colliric Just because CNN reports that the POTUS lies on a regular basis isn't NOT neutral. You simply don't like what the facts are, and so are seeking to discredit any MSM outlet in your pathetic attempt to protect a pathologically lying and corrupt businessman, who is currently POTUS. You're doing what Trump wants you to do, since he's said all MSM is fake, unless it's his Fox and Friends(his propaganda network), of course...

Lol, MSM does suck. Fox is just the least corrupt MSM and is, you should remember, also owned by an Australian-expat, specifically from my home city. Plus his "local" Newspaper the Herald-Sun is my favourite MSM news rag. So?

You know I watch both far-Left and far-Right independent news too right? I'm also watching RT alot at the moment.

I love watching Abby Martin on Telesur's Empire Files. I'm watching Jimmy Dore more than Alex Jones at the moment. I skip the episodes on topics I don't agree with their opinion on.

[Crantag]

Lol, MSM does suck. Fox is just the least corrupt MSM and is, you should remember, also owned by an Australian-expat, specifically from my home city. Plus his "local" Newspaper the Herald-Sun is my favourite MSM news rag. So?

You know I watch both far-Left and far-Right independent news too right? I'm also watching RT alot at the moment.

I love watching Abby Martin on Telesur's Empire Files. I'm watching Jimmy Dore more than Alex Jones at the moment. I skip the episodes on topics I don't agree with their opinion on.

Fox is utter blatant propaganda bullshit. All intelligent people know that.
I use to watch RT. Not anymore.

I read most my news on China Daily (on my phone, I'm in China) or Google News. On Google though, I have to be ardent to avoid Fox.

[Godstud]

Fox is just the least corrupt MSM and is, you should remember, also owned by an Australian-expat, specifically from my home city. Plus his "local" Newspaper the Herald-Sun is my favourite MSM news rag. So?

Ok, now I know you're bullshitting me. Fox is the worst of the big MSM outlets. @Crantag you hit the nail on the head.

You know I watch both far-Left and far-Right independent news too right?

I call bullshit.

I'm also watching RT alot at the moment.

RT is the Russia propaganda machine. That's nothing to be proud of.

[colliric]

I call bullshit.

Yes because Abby Martin is somehow magically extremely right wing. Why do you think I am anti-Zionist? Lol.

<-Seen almost all of Empire Files episodes more than once.

My favourite journalist is a Jill Stein supporter....

Told you many times im subscribed to a variety of admittedly polarising channels.

I'm a believer in Australian Liberalism... I'm not a conservative... If I was do you think Eva Peron would still be my favourite pollie ever?

[Godstud]

<-Seen almost all of Empire Files 98 Episodes more than once.

You think that Fox news is unbiased, and that makes pretty much anything you say after that, irrelevant. You can't even tell fact from fiction... much like Trump, who fabricates what he needs at a moment's notice.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

My favourite journalist is a Jill Stein supporter....

So your favourite reporter is a fucking idiot. Is that something to be proud of?

[colliric]

You think that Fox news is unbiased, and that makes pretty much anything you say after that, irrelevant. You can't even tell fact from fiction... much like Trump, who fabricates what he needs at a moment's notice.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

So your favourite reporter is a fucking idiot. Is that something to be proud of?

I never said Fox was unbiased.. I said they were the least Corrupt of the majors.

In fact part of it is because they wear their Republican Party alliegance on their sleeves. Every other MSM network is clearly Democrat biased, yet they all pretend stupidly to be "unbiased".

Fox wears it's Republican bias as a badge of pride, and is therefore the most honest of the lot of 'em.

[skinster]

RT is the Russia propaganda machine. That's nothing to be proud of.

The types of journalists on RT are those types that CNN wouldn't employ because CNN has a government-sponsored narrative which at the moment is still all about the Russiagate lies. RT isn't fabulous in its reporting either, but it does have journalists on there who say things you won't hear anywhere in the US MSM, things such as opposing wars, supporting BLM, covering climate change etc. One of their journalists is Chris Hedges who worked for the NYT for many years until he opposed the war on Iraq and was fired. People like that won't have their journalism reported in NYT or CNN for that matter, for what I assumed are obvious reasons.

So your favourite reporter is a fucking idiot. Is that something to be proud of?

Why would you say Abby Martin is a fucking idiot because she supported Jill Stein?

[jimjam]

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