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By jimjam
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Sivad wrote:It's a term used by senior officicials and politicians, top journalists, and highly respected analysts and academics.

Well, let's see …. I am not a senior official, a politician, a top journalist and most definitely not highly respected in any way whatsoever. :lol: Sorry, Deep State seems corny to me.

Hindsite wrote:our last chance of cleaning up the Deep State swamp

Get real. The so called Deep State has been around forever and will continue to be around forever. They killed Julius Caesar, JFK and uncounted others. Trump clean out the Deep State? At best he will be able to replace parts of it with his own Deep State. He's been ingratiating himself with them since he arrived in town with lower taxes for billionaires and permitting America's corporatocracy to increase their profits at the expense of sickness and shorter life spans for the peons.
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jimjam wrote:Get real. The so called Deep State has been around forever and will continue to be around forever. They killed Julius Caesar, JFK and uncounted others. Trump clean out the Deep State? At best he will be able to replace parts of it with his own Deep State. He's been ingratiating himself with them since he arrived in town with lower taxes for billionaires and permitting America's corporatocracy to increase their profits at the expense of sickness and shorter life spans for the peons.

Maybe we should just get rid of those peons.
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Hindsite wrote:Maybe we should just get rid of those peons.


You can't be serious... However, considering your ''prosperity gospel'' and End Times BS, maybe you are. Us working people are just immoral dirty scum in your opinion, I guess, at the bottom of the economic ladder because of their own faults, right?
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:You can't be serious... However, considering your ''prosperity gospel'' and End Times BS, maybe you are. Us working people are just immoral dirty scum in your opinion, I guess, at the bottom of the economic ladder because of their own faults, right?

I am all for them working their way up the economic ladder so they are not peons. What is wrong with that?
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Hindsite wrote:I am all for them working their way up the economic ladder so they are not peons. What is wrong with that?


What's wrong with remaining poor, humble, and good? Christ said ''blessed are the poor''. It is good to be thrifty, industrious, sober, honest, and fair dealing with all people, and to have enough to satisfy one's necessities, but to be rich is to be wicked. Luxury murders the soul, as witness the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man...
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:I am all for them working their way up the economic ladder so they are not peons. What is wrong with that?

What a croc of meaningless shit. Shall we now examine your "economic ladder" in America where we have a government by the rich and for the rich. An "economic ladder" where the peons' inflation adjusted wages are at 1978 levels and household debt exceeds 2008 levels @$13,000,000,000,000+ and peons are forced to borrow from Trump's neighborhood loan shark industry ….. "Payday Loans".
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:What's wrong with remaining poor, humble, and good? Christ said ''blessed are the poor''. It is good to be thrifty, industrious, sober, honest, and fair dealing with all people, and to have enough to satisfy one's necessities, but to be rich is to be wicked. Luxury murders the soul, as witness the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man...

I don't recall Jesus saying that everyone that follows Him must be poor. If we are all poor, then how are we going to have enough to care for the poor? Remember, Jesus was laid to rest in a rich man's tomb.

Now when evening had come, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus. This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be given to him. When Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and departed.
(Matthew 27:57-60 NKJV)

I agree that if one is rich, then he should be willing to give a lot more than 3% to charity as we find is the case with Bernie Sanders, who has now admitted he is a millionaire and was willing to pay only 26% taxes, while he calls for other rich people to pay more. What a hypocrite.

Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He’s Part of the 1%.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/p ... taxes.html
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:the case with Bernie Sanders, who has now admitted he is a millionaire and was willing to pay only 26% taxes, while he calls for other rich people to pay more. What a hypocrite.


I like Bernie, he has the guts to tell the truth about his taxes unlike the obese gutless wonder in the white house who hides behind an army of lawyers and dozens of phony shell companies rather than simply releasing his tax info. It's simple …… he has something to hide ….. we can only wonder what it is. My guess is that after he moves his cash around the world a few times, he pays 0%.

Hypocrisy? Good Lord I don't have enough time to waste enumerating Donald's hypocrisy. I'll just leave you with my favorite: "a really great HealthCare Plan"( D.Trump) is what the man says. Backing a legal removal of Obamacare which would eliminate health care for 20 million or so is what the man does.
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By jimjam
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Germany’s troubled Deutsche Bank faces fines, legal action and the possible prosecution of “senior management” because of its role in a $20bn Russian money-laundering scheme.

Deutsche Bank was embroiled in a vast money-laundering operation, dubbed the Global Laundromat. Russian criminals with links to the Kremlin and the KGB used the scheme between 2010 and 2014 to move money into the western financial system. The cash involved could total $80bn.

Over two decades, Trump borrowed more than $2bn from Deutsche. In 2008, he defaulted on a $45m loan repayment and sued the bank. Its private wealth division in New York subsequently loaned Trump a further $300m – a move that bemused insiders and which has yet to be fully explained.

"We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." D. Trump Jr. (the dumb Trump).

;)
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jimjam wrote:Russian criminals with links to the Kremlin and the KGB used the scheme between 2010 and 2014 to move money into the western financial system.

(cough, cough) The ... uh ... KGB ...uh... ceased to exist in 1991. (cough, cough)

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By jimjam
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blackjack21 wrote:(cough, cough) The ... uh ... KGB ...uh... ceased to exist in 1991. (cough, cough)

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Oh how humiliating :lol: . Hmmm :?: does mean that the KGB infrastructure and personnel magically disappeared? A rose by another name is still a rose. Alan Dulles was fired by JFK but he essentially still ran the CIA when he engineered JFK's ………. er …….. administration change. Get with the real world sonny and spare me the cheap shots. Back at you bud:
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I don't recall Jesus saying that everyone that follows Him must be poor. If we are all poor, then how are we going to have enough to care for the poor? Remember, Jesus was laid to rest in a rich man's tomb.


We, you and I, have had several conversations about the Christian ideal of having all things in common, so your recall must be selective.

Now when evening had come, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus. This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be given to him. When Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and departed.
(Matthew 27:57-60 NKJV)


So that the Old Testament prophesy would come to pass that Our Lord's Body would be buried with and counted among the Wicked.

I agree that if one is rich, then he should be willing to give a lot more than 3% to charity as we find is the case with Bernie Sanders, who has now admitted he is a millionaire and was willing to pay only 26% taxes, while he calls for other rich people to pay more. What a hypocrite.

Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He’s Part of the 1%.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/p ... taxes.html


All the rich are in effect, hypocrites, because their whole life is a lie, sustained by lies.
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By Hindsite
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jimjam wrote:I like Bernie, he has the guts to tell the truth about his taxes unlike the obese gutless wonder in the white house who hides behind an army of lawyers and dozens of phony shell companies rather than simply releasing his tax info. It's simple …… he has something to hide ….. we can only wonder what it is. My guess is that after he moves his cash around the world a few times, he pays 0%.

Hypocrisy? Good Lord I don't have enough time to waste enumerating Donald's hypocrisy. I'll just leave you with my favorite: "a really great HealthCare Plan"( D.Trump) is what the man says. Backing a legal removal of Obamacare which would eliminate health care for 20 million or so is what the man does.

Obamacare is not a good healthcare plan and was a lie from the beginning. But the idiots in the Democrat party fell for it. Eliminating Obamacare for 20 million people will be a good start for replacing it with good healthcare and I am not referring to Medicaid for all.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:So that the Old Testament prophesy would come to pass that Our Lord's Body would be buried with and counted among the Wicked.

Being rich does not make one wicked. That rich man was said to be a disciple of Jesus. He apparently was converted. We all are wicked until we are converted and forgiven by Jesus. It is not having wealth that makes a person wicked.

annatar1914 wrote:All the rich are in effect, hypocrites, because their whole life is a lie, sustained by lies.

Not necessarily.
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:a good start for replacing it with good healthcare


When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that "everybody's got to be covered."

OK, looks like Donald "started" 4 years ago. How is that project doing? Any idea when it will be "finished"?

FYI … cancer never sleeps.
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By Hindsite
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jimjam wrote:When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that "everybody's got to be covered."

OK, looks like Donald "started" 4 years ago. How is that project doing? Any idea when it will be "finished"?

FYI … cancer never sleeps.

All the Democrats in Congress that are obstructing must first be defeated. Can you help with that?
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Being rich does not make one wicked. That rich man was said to be a disciple of Jesus. He apparently was converted. We all are wicked until we are converted and forgiven by Jesus. It is not having wealth that makes a person wicked.


Not all the wicked are wealthy, but all the wealthy are wicked. As Our Lord said;

But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation


Gospel of St. Luke, Chapter 6 verse 24. And i'm sure St. Joseph of Arimathea did exactly what was commanded specifically by God Incarnate in the circumstances of the Rich who would have eternal life.


Not necessarily.


Yes, all the rich are hypocritical, unmerciful, heartless liars. For as Scripture says in Proverbs 19:22 for example;

A needy man is merciful: and better is the poor than the lying man.


Notice the distinction?
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:All the Democrats in Congress that are obstructing must first be defeated. Can you help with that?

“The Republicans are developing a really great HealthCare Plan with far lower premiums (cost) & deductibles than ObamaCare,” the president wrote in a string of three tweets posted Monday night. “In other words it will be far less expensive & much more usable than ObamaCare. Vote will be taken right after the Election when Republicans hold the Senate & win back the House.” D.Trump ( :lol: )

Nothing to obstruct. Donald dropped the ball again and, guess what?, Donald failed :eek: . Promises made …. and made again ….. ad infinitum …… Donald the great deal maker would be a laughingstock for his incompetence if it were not for the fact that, as I said, cancer never sleeps …..
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By Hindsite
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jimjam wrote:“The Republicans are developing a really great HealthCare Plan with far lower premiums (cost) & deductibles than ObamaCare,” the president wrote in a string of three tweets posted Monday night. “In other words it will be far less expensive & much more usable than ObamaCare. Vote will be taken right after the Election when Republicans hold the Senate & win back the House.” D.Trump ( :lol: )

Nothing to obstruct. Donald dropped the ball again and, guess what?, Donald failed :eek: . Promises made …. and made again ….. ad infinitum …… Donald the great deal maker would be a laughingstock for his incompetence if it were not for the fact that, as I said, cancer never sleeps …..

There has to be a majority in the House of Representatives and 60 Senators to vote in favor of it to pass. The liberal Democrats will continue to obstruct and there will not be any good healthcare plan as long as stupid people keep putting liberals in power. Can't you see that making things worse and promising free shit is the only way the liberal Democrats can gain power in the government?
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By Hong Wu
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CNN and MSNBC ratings have still not recovered, with CNN down 50% last week. Continuing to push the Mueller report is looking bad for them. I don't think that CNN cna survive itself during this presidency.
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