[Rugoz]

I've seen no evidence of that.

Yawn. Read section IV. If you think such circumstances do not justify an investigation (regardless of the outcome), I can't help you.

[blackjack21]

So Trump tried but gave up when he got some push back to fire a guy he technically has the right to fire because he was blatantly innocent and the Democrats want to impeach him for semi-attempted obstruction of justice re: something he was innocent of.

The president cannot obstruct justice in a federal case, because all executive power is vested in him. He cannot obstruct himself. Congress can impeach him, which I think they should try to do because it will do lasting damage to the Democratic party as they field fairly radical presidential candidates.

President Trump did have the right to fire them all. However, it appears to me that the Lord had other plans. I am interested to see what those plans reveal.

Well, they are certainly exposed now. The special counsel did not investigate any of the actions of the FBI, DoJ or Hillary Clinton acolytes, nor the obvious interference by the UK and Australia. The neoconservative/neoliberal cabal spans continents, but they are facing hostility everywhere for their misrule.

I am interested to see how Trump goes after these actors. Other than Michael Cohen (not his hand) and Michael Avenatti, we haven't seen too much yet. It will start getting interesting again when the IG report comes out. I don't think it's going to stop there. I'd like to see a special counsel investigation into Hillary Clinton, Steele, Fusion GPS, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, etc. Then we will see what obstruction looks like.

[jimjam]

As the redacted Mueller report states, the special counsel’s office “considered whether to charge Trump Campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 (Trump Tower) meeting.” But luckily for the president’s eldest son, he ended up getting off scot-free—not because he hadn’t done anything sketchy, but because Robert Mueller concluded he was too stupid to know what he was doing.

[Rugoz]

As the redacted Mueller report states, the special counsel’s office “considered whether to charge Trump Campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 (Trump Tower) meeting.” But luckily for the president’s eldest son, he ended up getting off scot-free—not because he hadn’t done anything sketchy, but because Robert Mueller concluded he was too stupid to know what he was doing.

Yeah that part is hilarious. Here's an explanation:

Back in July, long before today’s release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, the world learned that Donald Trump Jr. had arranged a meeting with a Kremlin-linked Russian government official to receive documents supposedly containing dirt on Hillary Clinton for use in the Trump campaign. Plenty of experts believed that this constituted a violation of campaign finance laws against soliciting contributions from foreign nationals, but neither Trump nor his fellow meeting-attender Jared Kushner ever faced criminal action. (Paul Manafort, who was also there, was arrested and convicted, but not for this.) Why not? The Mueller report provides a pretty hilarious answer:

“The office did not obtain admissible evidence likely to meet the government’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted ‘willfully,’ i.e., with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct,” it reads in part. In other words, because they may have been too dense to understand that what they were doing was against the law, we can’t charge them with a crime.

You may be wondering why this line of argument didn’t work for you, when you told that jerkoff cop you thought it was perfectly legal to run through the streets fully nude with a trash bag full of cocaine. Since when does ignorance of the rules a valid defense for breaking them?

It seems that this is a particularity of campaign finance law. The American Bar Association, in a blog post about campaign finance, explains that “All criminal violations of federal campaign finance laws require proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the violator acted knowingly and willfully in violation of the laws, which means that the violator knew what the law required or prohibited but acted contrary to the law.” Similarly, an attorney and expert on the subject told Time last year that “The difference between a campaign finance violation that is a crime and a campaign finance violation is a civil matter is whether the action was taking knowingly and willfully.”

https://www.spin.com/2019/04/don-jr-not ... e-mueller/

[jimjam]

I'd like to see a special counsel investigation into Hillary Clinton, Steele, Fusion GPS, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, etc. Then we will see what obstruction looks like.

Definitely. And we also need to continue to investigate :

Secretary of Agriculture under Gerald Ford ,Earl Butz ,was asked privately why the party of Lincoln was not able to attract more blacks. Butz replied: "I'll tell you what the coloreds want. It's three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit."

After Donald is finished with his Alpha Male act maybe we can deal with the "Promises Made Promises Not Kept Department" like repairing the nation's infrastructure or his endless promises on health care, “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

[Stormsmith]

You know he doesn't have clue one on health care

Now, about the infrastructure. ..tad embarrassing...who are you going to hire? Mexicans?

[jimjam]

For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.

Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.

What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.

Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.


"Now, about the infrastructure. ..tad embarrassing...who are you going to hire? Mexicans?"...…..not likely. Nor Canadians. Under Donald our two closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada, now think Americans are assholes. But.... God Damn It! We are rough tough macho's who aren't going to take any shit from anyone ….

[Hindsite]

As the redacted Mueller report states, the special counsel’s office “considered whether to charge Trump Campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 (Trump Tower) meeting.” But luckily for the president’s eldest son, he ended up getting off scot-free—not because he hadn’t done anything sketchy, but because Robert Mueller concluded he was too stupid to know what he was doing.

That was also what former FBI Director Comey concluded about Hillary Clinton in her careless handling of classified information. Perhaps the old proverb "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" applies here.
Praise the Lord.

[jimjam]

So all the “fake news” was true. A hostile foreign power intervened in the presidential election, hoping to install Donald Trump in the White House. The Trump campaign was aware of this intervention and welcomed it. And once in power, Trump tried to block any inquiry into what happened.

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. The modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. The simple fact is that one of our two major parties — the one that likes to wrap itself in the flag — no longer believes in American values. And it’s very much up in the air whether America as we know it will survive.

Trump and his GOP equate socialism with communism. These are the same Republicans who love to socialize their losses while privatizing their profits.

[Hindsite]

So all the “fake news” was true. A hostile foreign power intervened in the presidential election, hoping to install Donald Trump in the White House. The Trump campaign was aware of this intervention and welcomed it. And once in power, Trump tried to block any inquiry into what happened.

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. The modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. The simple fact is that one of our two major parties — the one that likes to wrap itself in the flag — no longer believes in American values. And it’s very much up in the air whether America as we know it will survive.

Trump and his GOP equate socialism with communism. These are the same Republicans who love to socialize their losses while privatizing their profits.

I will always vote for Christian capitalism and lower taxes over evil socialism and higher taxes any time.
HalleluYah

[maz]

So all the “fake news” was true. A hostile foreign power intervened in the presidential election, hoping to install Donald Trump in the White House.

Obama was president at the time this allegedly happened. If we assume the story that a foreign power intervened in the election is true, then Obama did nothing to stop it.

But I've already shown some pages ago that he was the one who green lit the Russian hacking narrative, so that explains why he did nothing to stop it.

[jimjam]

Obama was president at the time this allegedly happened. If we assume the story that a foreign power intervened in the election is true, then Obama did nothing to stop it.But I've already shown some pages ago that he was the one who green lit the Russian hacking narrative, so that explains why he did nothing to stop it.

Well it seems that Obama was engaged in enlisting The Russians in helping get Donald elected. Well that sets things straight in my mind ……. I thought the Tooth Fairy did it

If we assume the story that a foreign power intervened in the election is true,

The FBI, The CIA, the Mueller investigation proved this but, if you are in love with Donald ….. go ahead my friend and believe a con artist who averages 6 of 10 lies per day. Whatever gets you through the night

[Hindsite]

Whatever gets you through the night

Believing the truth is what gets me through the night. You don't have it.
HalleluYah

[skinster]

It is shocking that people still believe Russiagate is a thing, even though the 2/3 YEAR report found no evidence for it.

This is a good interview and I recommend it to the conspiracy theorists who won't let this story go.

As RA said, there's plenty of things to hate on Trump for, but making shit up and maintaining this nonsense just makes you look a bit mental...and really weird at this stage.

[Beren]

It's nice to see some real news on RT.

What confuses me nowadays is that the president himself seems unable to decide whether the Mueller Report is complete exoneration or bullshit. Maybe it's both?

[Hindsite]

It's nice to see some real news on RT.

What confuses me nowadays is that the president himself seems unable to decide whether the Mueller Report is complete exoneration or bullshit. Maybe it's both? :?:

It is clear that President Trump liked the fact that Mueller and his angry team of democrats could not find that any American conspired with the Russians to meddle in the election. However, he was not happy that Mueller and his team would not exonerate him of obstruction of justice and wrote the report in such a biased way to claim they were unable to make that decision. However, I am sure he was happy that Barr and Rosentein did determine that he did not obstruct justice, because there was no underlying crime determined on which he could obstruct the investigation.

Of course the Democrats in Congress that called for his impeachment as soon as he was sworn in as President are not going to accept that if they can help it. Their plan is to continue investigating in the hopes of finding enough evidence on anything to make impeachment seem reasonable. And their liberal Democrat media will be helping them with the propaganda message to the public.

[Godstud]

They said that Trump and his cohorts were too clueless to engage in it with any knowledge of what they were doing and that it did not constitute conspiracy because of that. Trump still will be on the hook for many instances(at least 10) of Obstruction of Justice. They mentioned, clearly, that Trump was on exonerated of such things.

[Rich]

Tomorrow is Vladimir Lenin's birthday.

Although he was born on the tenth of April. Its one of history's great open questions: Was he an Aries like Mariah Carey and Marlon Brando or was he a Taurus like Karl Marx and David Beckham?

[Beren]

It is clear that President Trump liked the fact that Mueller and his angry team of democrats could not find that any American conspired with the Russians to meddle in the election. However, he was not happy that Mueller and his team would not exonerate him of obstruction of justice and wrote the report in such a biased way to claim they were unable to make that decision. However, I am sure he was happy that Barr and Rosentein did determine that he did not obstruct justice, because there was no underlying crime determined on which he could obstruct the investigation.

It's nice you talk about him like he's a baby that's happy/unhappy with or likes/dislikes this or that in the Mueller Report while he's unable to form a coherent view of it. I actually agree with that interpretation.

[Hindsite]

They said that Trump and his cohorts were too clueless to engage in it with any knowledge of what they were doing and that it did not constitute conspiracy because of that. Trump still will be on the hook for many instances(at least 10) of Obstruction of Justice. They mentioned, clearly, that Trump was on exonerated of such things.

No, President Trump is not on the hook for any Obstruction of Justice. The Justice Department has already made the decision on that. No collusion or conspiracy and no obstruction is the rule.
HalleluYah