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By Hindsite
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Godstud wrote:No. We there is no evidence that it was fake, and in fact it's really just Trump's word against another's. If you can't accept that the person you exercise idolatry on has some faults, then that's your problem, not everyone else's. It's also not fake news just because you don't like it.

Your arguments regarding "fake news" are childish, at best. You simply say it as a reaction to anything aimed at Trump.

Steele even admitted he had not verified the information in his dossier and hadn't been to Russia in over 9 years. Comey also said it was unverified. Steele put all these lies together to make money from the Clinton campaign in the hopes of hurting Trump with all those false allegations. That is the truth.
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By Beren
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jimjam wrote:The rest of the world just has to be laughing at poor America.

The Trump presidency is a clear message to the rest of the world that America's in heavy decline, which turns future expectations against the USA, and future expectations have a great impact on people's decisions in the present. If you add that to the faulty policies, you get a really potent toxic mix that can "accomplish" a lot even in a relatively short period of time while China's expanding its tentacles from Northwestern Europe to Japan and New Zealand, or even beyond, with Russian assistance.
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By jimjam
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Beren wrote:The Trump presidency is a clear message to the rest of the world that America's in heavy decline, which turns future expectations against the USA, and future expectations have a great impact on people's decisions in the present. If you add that to the faulty policies, you get a really potent toxic mix that can "accomplish" a lot even in a relatively short period of time while China's expanding its tentacles from Northwestern Europe to Japan and New Zealand, or even beyond, with Russian assistance.

Donald pretty much only gets along with like minded dick head bullies like Netanyahu, Putin and that North Korean pin head. Even his North Korean pin head BFF seems to be playing him for the egotistical Nobel Peace Prize "winner" that he aspires to. He has pretty much alienated all of Europe, Canada and Mexico. America back in the game stronger? Definitely …… It's not so much America as it is Donald performing his usual loose cannon act of rolling around insulting everyone he comes into contact with. "Stronger" in the sense of an asshole whose greatest asset is breaking treaties and promises. Not exactly stronger as a leader that is looked up to and respected. "Respected" in the sense that they will put up with him due to the great wealth of America. They generally see him as an incompetent and undependable liar who they will patronize until his time runs out and he accepts a job as Blabber Mouth # One with Fox Fake News.
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By Beren
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jimjam wrote:Donald pretty much only gets along with like minded dick head bullies like Netanyahu, Putin and that North Korean pin head.

Shouldn't forget about the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

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By jimjam
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Beren wrote:Shouldn't forget about the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

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How could I ever have forgotten one of Donald's favorites ….. Mr. Bone Saw.
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jimjam wrote:Donald pretty much only gets along with like minded dick head bullies like Netanyahu, Putin and that North Korean pin head. Even his North Korean pin head BFF seems to be playing him for the egotistical Nobel Peace Prize "winner" that he aspires to.


I think President Trump likes bullies, but they're using him. What I don't get is why he dumps on Handsome Justin Trudeau for being socialist, but loves communists (except for Cuba with whom he wanted to do business in the 1990's). Tad odd for a GOP-er.

He has pretty much alienated all of Europe, Canada and Mexico. America back in the game stronger? Definitely …… It's not so much America as it is Donald performing his usual loose cannon act of rolling around insulting everyone he comes into contact with. "Stronger" in the sense of an asshole whose greatest asset is breaking treaties and promises. Not exactly stronger as a leader that is looked up to and respected. "Respected" in the sense that they will put up with him due to the great wealth of America. They generally see him as an incompetent and undependable liar who they will patronize until his time runs out and he accepts a job as Blabber Mouth # One with Fox Fake News.


I can't write for the whole country. Personally, I see him as a brash, outspoken man, something like TO's mayor Rob Ford, although I think Ford was more truthful. Things will go back to normal when he's out of office. We got on well with Clinton and Obama, less well with the Bushes.

But regardless of which party you elect, please chose a leader who speaks English. Please. This is painful.
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By jimjam
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Beren wrote:The Trump presidency is a clear message to the rest of the world that America's in heavy decline, which turns future expectations against the USA, and future expectations have a great impact on people's decisions in the present. If you add that to the faulty policies, you get a really potent toxic mix that can "accomplish" a lot even in a relatively short period of time while China's expanding its tentacles from Northwestern Europe to Japan and New Zealand, or even beyond, with Russian assistance.


The lack of certainty from the United States has prompted its trading partners to seek comprehensive deals elsewhere. Japan, along with Canada and Europe, have been entering into negotiations with other countries to try to diversify away from the United States. The Trans-Pacific Partnership, a multicountry trade pact that Mr. Trump withdrew from, has already gone into effect, as have European trade agreements with both Japan and Canada.

Chinese negotiators have also tried to buy time and hedge against Mr. Trump’s changing whims. Beijing has been hesitant to commit to a summit meeting with the United States until all of the details of the wide-ranging agreement they are negotiating with the United States are ironed out. They are wary that Mr. Trump will decide at the last minute that the deal isn’t good enough and send President Xi Jinping away empty-handed, as Mr. Trump did when he met the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Hanoi in February.
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By Beren
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jimjam wrote:The lack of certainty from the United States has prompted its trading partners to seek comprehensive deals elsewhere.

The rest of the world keeps globalising even if America starts trade wars, or rather it may even catalyse the process. The USA would be in trouble without Trump too, with him though they are in deep shit.
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By Finfinder
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jimjam wrote:Hi Finfinder. Find any good fins lately? You seem to be showing up with greater frequency these days. I guess the snow birds are heading North and the Cape Coral real estate boom has morphed from vertical to horizontal.

Your boy Donald claims that the sound from wind turbines causes cancer and you are concerned with evidence? :lol:

"If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value," Trump told his fellow Republicans April 2. "And they say the noise causes cancer."

The White House was asked for evidence that wind turbine noise causes cancer. So far …. no response. :lol:

I sure hope we do hear back. Wind turbine noise causing cancer is right up there with Bill Clinton's "I didn't inhale." :eek:


Hey buddy :)


I come hear more for the entertainment just to see those who are in stage three of "Trump Derange Syndrome", morph their characters into Communists. Page after page of comments which lack any evidence or credibility. This is exemplified in the fact you are basically the only American standing in there, still trolling the ridiculous. This thread is really about leftist proponents of a two tier law system. Supporters of a deep state, and a Obama administration to use our highest levels of government, (the executive branch) to attempt to destroy their political rivals. I can see why, just like this entire thread which lacks any real honest debate or serious discussions, so does the new Democrat party, which is terrified to discuss an actual policy. We all know why, the Democrats are like this thread, just a giant turd circling the bowl but just won't flush because it's half petrified from years of constipation.
:D :D

Obama concerning the IRS scandal. "Not a smidgen of corruption." Head of the IRS Lois Learner and others plead the fifth amendment, in order to not incriminate themselves to congress. Out of jobs now. Jim Jam and Democrats demanding Trumps tax returns = Communism. :D :D
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By jimjam
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House Democrats on Monday issued a subpoena to the German lender Deutsche Bank seeking information on President Donald Trump’s finances, a major escalation of their investigation into his business dealings.

In addition to the Deutsche Bank subpoena, House Democrats subpoenaed other banks — including JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup — seeking information on Russian money laundering.

Donald will try like hell to nip this one in the bud. If he can't ….. then it will become really interesting. Deutsche Bank has already been busted by the Europeans for washing Russian oligarch cash.
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By Sivad
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Michael Tracey interviews George Papadopoulos


George Papadopoulos interview , the man at the heart of the Trump/Russia saga, on his book "Deep State Target". This was pretty astounding. Recorded on Monday, April 15, 2019.
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By jimjam
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Sivad wrote:Michael Tracey interviews George Papadopoulos


George Papadopoulos interview , the man at the heart of the Trump/Russia saga, on his book "Deep State Target". This was pretty astounding. Recorded on Monday, April 15, 2019.

I think "Deep State" is sort of a corny label but it does point to the truth that "democracy" is simply a fairy tale conjured up to dupe and entertain the masses. America is obviously being run by a privileged club of wealthy people who are above the law and who do their best to control the system to their advantage while keeping their names out of the media. I don't have time to go on and on so I will simply point out arguably their most audacious move. JFK actually thought he was the boss and wouldn't take orders. On 11/22/63 this was rectified ….. big time. With Alan Dulles managing the event, the CIA, in one second, removed JFK from the picture. Conspiracy? Not hardly. The real conspiracy was the so called Warren Commission Report.
By Hindsite
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Mueller Report Will Be Released Thursday, Justice Dept. Says

Investigators for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, found no conspiracy between Russia’s 2016 election interference and Trump associates, Mr. Barr told lawmakers last month in a letter outlining their main findings. They declined to make a decision on whether President Trump illegally obstructed justice but stopped short of exonerating him, but Mr. Barr and Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, stepped in and concluded that Mr. Trump had not committed an obstruction offense.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/p ... lease.html

President Trump and AG Barr may be our last chance of cleaning up the Deep State swamp. The liberal Democrats and their propaganda news media are determined to stop the clean up in order to advance socialist globalism by hook or crook.
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By Sivad
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jimjam wrote:I think "Deep State" is sort of a corny label


:knife: It's a term used by senior officicials and politicians, top journalists, and highly respected analysts and academics.
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"Deep State" a term coined by Conspiracy Theorists, and not anyone with a shred of respectability, objectivity, or sincerity. It's as real as "Cultural Marxism", and just as dumb.

If you want to, you can use Deep State to represent "The Establishment", but why not just call it that?
By Hindsite
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Godstud wrote:"Deep State" a term coined by Conspiracy Theorists, and not anyone with a shred of respectability, objectivity, or sincerity. It's as real as "Cultural Marxism", and just as dumb.

If you want to, you can use Deep State to represent "The Establishment", but why not just call it that?

Okay, it is the political establishment that have worked their way into the FBI and Intelligence agencies that use their personal political views to administer their offices to obtain their desired outcome. It is what some in the FBI did to dismiss the obstruction of justice with Hillary Clinton and launch a frame up against Donald Trump.
By Hindsite
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Godstud wrote:FBI did a frame-up of Trump? Nice CONSPIRACY THEORY. :lol:

Well, they tried to, but it did not work. The Mueller Report proves it did not work.
Praise the Lord.
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By Finfinder
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jimjam wrote:House Democrats on Monday issued a subpoena to the German lender Deutsche Bank seeking information on President Donald Trump’s finances, a major escalation of their investigation into his business dealings.

In addition to the Deutsche Bank subpoena, House Democrats subpoenaed other banks — including JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup — seeking information on Russian money laundering.

Donald will try like hell to nip this one in the bud. If he can't ….. then it will become really interesting. Deutsche Bank has already been busted by the Europeans for washing Russian oligarch cash.



Yea that's is what communist do, comrade JimJam :lol:
Maxine waters is like a toothless nipper dog.

BTW are you still in town I got jar of mango habanero jam made from my tree with your name on it.
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