Red_Army wrote:As far as people killing each other over shoes its just because they are expensive. There is nothing unique about Nike except its popularity as a brand and commensurate value. The primary motivation for killing anyone has always been resources. You just like to focus on black people killing for jordans because you're an obvious racist and want to depict black people as animals. 2 million Iraqis and 4,000 American soldiers have so far died in Iraq and it seems pretty pointless to me. Since you're upset about Kaep's silence on black-on-black crime, why aren't you decrying every other profit-motivated death?
Expensive shoes are not a necessity. The materials for making them are not scarce. Thus, killing over inessential items that have little intrinsic value does appear to be something of an anomaly that would make some render a value judgement. This can be said of many luxury goods. In terms of intrinsic value, what does a Ferrari have that a Ford does not? Essentially nothing. Yet, they trade at different market values.
With respect to Iraq, it happens to be sitting on top of the largest proven reserves of light sweet crude that is under pressure at the well head. That is, they have plenty of easily recoverable oil, which powers industrialized economies in North America, Europe and Asia (yes, I know Brazil and Argentina don't like being ignored). Since there is a civilizational scale of dependence, it's very clear why there will be constant fights over those resources and who controls them.
maz wrote:Under Armour released a $300 pair of basketball shoes at the end of 2017, but I haven't found any stories of blacks or any other groups of people killing each other over Under Armour shoes.
I had too much capital tied up on other stocks to buy them when they hit 11 a share. It might be a buy if it tags that moving average at about $17 a share. At any rate, they've never been that successful at shoes. If they get a shoe that sells, that stock will take off.
maz wrote:That, and Kaepernick, with his afro, pretends to be this over the top pro-black revolutionary who just happens to sign endorsement deals with a company that sells shoes that blacks kill each other over. Do you not see the hilarious irony in this?
Evidently, they do not see the irony. For that to happen, a right winger has to become CEO of Nike. Then, it will be clear that Nike uses the psychology of scarcity to get poor urban youth to pay far more for shoes than they are worth, triggering a wave of crimes against the person and property among the economically disadvantaged.
NKE stock hasn't fallen enough for me to buy it. We also haven't seen any actual fallout yet, but there is enough publicity to suggest that there will be some fallout.
Anyway, it is sort of interesting, because it seems like a lot of people do not realize the Michael Brown story was fake news. Since the news outlets they watch will not tell them, it is creating a significant divide that is having significant financial consequences. Businesses associated to the NFL, whether merchandising, televising or advertising have lost hundreds of millions in value as customers turn away. Now it seems that Nike will do the same.
A sort of nobody school has already eliminated Nike.
Missouri college will no longer wear Nike following ad featuring Colin Kaepernick“In their new ad campaign, we believe Nike executives are promoting an attitude of division and disrespect toward America,” College of the Ozarks President Jerry C. Davis said in a statement. “If Nike is ashamed of America, we are ashamed of them. We also believe that those who know what sacrifice is all about are more likely to be wearing a military uniform than an athletic uniform.”
These guys are looking at it as Nike is unpatriotic. That's a pretty strong reaction.
This guy puts it in almost strictly partisan terms.
Nike vs. In-N-Out: The silent majority has spokenFirst, the GOP controls the presidency, Senate and House. It has a large majority of the country’s governors and lieutenant governors. It controls the majority of state legislatures. The GOP dominates America.
Yet liberals and the liberal media paint political conservatives as extremists. Liberals are kidding themselves. Pure delusion. Our views are common sense and mainstream. You’re the radical, extreme ones. You’re the ones who are out of touch.
This is also true, but it is indicative of the disconnect with the media and the political left, and to a lesser but important extent the establishment Republicans who seem to try to curry favor with the very unpopular left in America.
So, you think you’re going to boycott all 28 million small businesses in America? For donating to the party that’s great for the economy and helps our businesses succeed? Good luck.
That could be why the In-N-Out boycott failed so disastrously. No one cares about a political donation.
But now we come to corporation No. 2. Nike. They just made a disastrous decision. And they will pay for it with a massive sales decline and billions of dollars in lost stock value. Nike may have fatally damaged itself this week.
Nike didn’t make a political donation. Nike just made former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick the face of its company. That is a combination of stupidity, ignorance, offensiveness and tragic thinking. Nike just branded itself with a person half of America (and all 63 million Trump voters) considers a vile, ungrateful America-hater.
Now that’s bad business.
Here’s a guy who had a $126 million contract but thinks America is unfair to minorities. Here’s a guy who figuratively spits in the faces of veterans and cops — and on our flag. What a joke. What a clueless hypocrite. What a disgrace to America.
You’d think Nike would have learned from the NFL’s terrible decision to allow players to kneel for our national anthem. The NFL lost hundreds of millions of dollars with massive ratings declines, empty seats and lost merchandise sales. Kaepernick was the face of that disaster.
It's a fascinating view, because this Wayne Allen Root guy more or less has the pulse of the country right. Yet, these very wealthy leftists do not seem to care that they have not only lost influence, but are set to lose considerable amounts of money too. Not that this bothers me in the slightest. I'm cheering it on. I just can't believe it's happening. This is like doubling down on gambling losses.
Why I'm boycotting Nike: Get woke and go brokeWhereas in the past Nike signed and paid the best athletes in their sports — Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Andre Agassi, Bo Jackson, Serena Williams — now the company is signing a former athlete who is infamous for his politics.
Another good point. To be fair to Kaepernick, he did lead the 49ers to the SuperBowl--where they lost. Bwahahaha. Can't help it. I'm an embittered Raider fan. Then, Kaepernick more or less melted down. His play deteriorated significantly. It's bizarre that Nike would pick a washout to represent their brand. Maybe their are enough sore losers to buy their products. We shall see.
There are people who champion Nike's bizarre decision too.
Kaepernick is the Ali of his generation. You'll love him when he's deadAgain, this sort of misses the point. Ali won his fights. He was brash, a braggart, and able to promote. In spite of his stance on the Vietnam War and signing up for the Religion-of-Peace to protest the draft, Ali was a popular personality who could sell products nonetheless. Ali was funny and entertaining. Kaepernick is bitter and depressing.
The latest chapter in the “Colin Kaepernick vs. White American Supremacy” saga took an unexpected turn this week when Nike made him the face of its 30th Anniversary “Just Do It” Campaign.
It's a fascinating divide. It appears that many Kaepernick supporter conflate Patriotism with White Supremacy.
This piece in Vanity Fair has some insights into NFL owners declining Trump's offer to buy the Buffalo Bills, along with a lot of other witty criticisms.
“THEY JUST SAW HIM AS THIS SCUMBAG HUCKSTER”: TRUMP, KAEPERNICK, AND HOW THE N.F.L. RE-IGNITED THE CULTURE WARSIt was only a matter of time before Trump served up Kaepernick, the vegan quarterback, as red meat to his base.
Funny.
Trump had wanted into the N.F.L. Membership Club for years, even though his earlier foray into football with the U.S.F.L.’s New Jersey Generals in the 1980s met with a disastrous end. The U.S.F.L. folded in 1986, and Trump received heavy blame for, among other things, offering exorbitant salaries to lure name players such as Herschel Walker and Doug Flutie to the Generals, even though his counterparts would bankrupt themselves if they tried to keep pace. Trump was also the driving force behind the league moving its games from spring to fall to compete directly with the N.F.L.
From the start, Trump’s motive with the U.S.F.L. was to get himself into the N.F.L., either through a merger or by making the Generals so enticing that the big boys could not refuse him. Trump, in 1984, finagled a meeting with N.F.L. commissioner Pete Rozelle at the Pierre hotel in New York, in which he said that he would do whatever it took to get into the league. Rozelle was not impressed, according to an account of the meeting by Jeff Pearlman, author of an upcoming book on the U.S.F.L. “They just saw him as this scumbag huckster,” Pearlman said of Trump. “He was this New York, fast-talking kind of con man.”
The N.F.L. had long factored in Trump’s well-documented Wannabe Complex: his craving for acceptance from the real billionaires and real tough guys whose ranks he desperately wanted to join. His most recent play for entry came in 2014, when he attempted to buy the Buffalo Bills, a franchise that was most definitely not tired of winning. No one thought Trump was serious. They figured it was just another one of his publicity stunts, like running for president, something that would never (ahem) amount to anything. Trump did not come close to passing muster with the Membership. He was, for starters, not considered sufficiently solvent or transparent to proffer a serious bid. Football owners, as it turns out, get a much closer look at a candidate’s finances than electorates do.
Trump is bashing the establishment that bashed him. Politics aside, I find this very entertaining. I grew sick of the establishment and even quit the Republican party after they adopted leftist tactics to smear anyone that wasn't for open borders. Now, I find it very entertaining to see Trump's influence crushing the establishment's narrative.
The financial dimension, I think, is worthy of another topic/thread. I've been watching FB stock tank for awhile now, and hear people buying it up. I quit FB. I think they are in real trouble now. Social media generally could be in real trouble as they have adopted leftist politics while tying themselves to the very unpopular surveillance state.
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