maz wrote:I still cannot believe that this clown was actually being floated as a potential presidential candidate, let alone having ever made it into the senate.
Well, I think after Barack Obama, pretty much anyone with a pulse thinks they can be president. The fact that McCain and Romney lost to Obama illustrates the problem with establishment politicians and their devotion to identity politics and political correctness. Trump blew them all out of the water, and the establishment never thought he had a chance of winning. Now they are perplexed about what to do. Oddly enough, Al Franken had more substantive political experience that Obama had when he ran for the White House.
maz wrote:What happens if Roy Moore wins and Al Franken has to step down?
That seems likely. Franken announced today he will resign in a few days, and took a swipe at Trump and Moore as a sort of parting shot. The Democrats seem to be doubling down on their failed strategy. As their political adversary, I'm sort of delighted. I do find it puzzling though, as they are reliably such venal people.
mikema63 wrote:I'm glad we are finally holding our own to account. It's a prime example of why having women in politics is important. It's the women of the Senate who held Al to account.
Women in the Senate also defended Bill Clinton. Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Blanche Lincoln, Barbara Mikulski, and Patty Murray all voted "Not Guilty" on Clinton's impeachment. Paul Wellstone, who Al Franken mentioned today, also voted against the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Who else voted "Not Guilty" on the Republican side? Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe--two of only three Republican women senators--both sided with Clinton. Kay Bailey Hutchison voted "Guilty." John Chafee, Slade Gordon, Jim Jeffords, Richard Shelby, Arlen Specter, Ted Stevens, Fred Thompson and John Warner also voted "Not Guilty."
Hindsite wrote:The political strategy is to reclaim the moral high ground over the Republicans, so they can force Roy Moore out of the Senate and then impeach President Trump.
The problem is that the Democrats have a pretty shabby history. Ted Kennedy was allowed to keep his seat after killing Mary Jo Kopechne. Al Franken never did anything remotely as bad as either Kennedy or Clinton.
mikema63 wrote:Yeah these women and their evil ways, nothing they do could possibly be because they aren't okay with people who treat women like objects.
Says a guy who voted for Hillary Clinton?
mikema63 wrote:You're a misogynist propagating lies against women and lies about these women in particular as part of a ridiculous attempt to defend a pedophile.
A gay guy accusing a straight guy of misogyny is a custard rich irony.
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