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By jimjam
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Steven Buser is a clinical psychiatrist and a former major in the United States Air Force. He is an editor, with Leonard Cruz, of “A Clear and Present Danger: Narcissism in the Era of President Trump.” Buser states:

I have not had the opportunity to examine the president personally, but warning signs abound. What if I had reliable outside information that Airman Trump displayed erratic emotions? That I saw very clearly that he was engaging in cyberbullying on Twitter? That he had repeatedly made untruthful or highly distorted statements? That his language implied he engaged in sexually abusive behavior? That he appeared paranoid about being surveilled or persecuted by others, that he frequently disregarded or violated the rights of others?
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By colliric
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Without a personal examination it's all bullshit. You can diagnose anyone with a mental illness from their Second Life Twitter feed.

Besides the 25th amendment was written to account for situations where the president might have an accident and get brain damage or not be able to move... written to account for situations that to heads of state in Europe would traditionally require a Regent to be appointed.

It wasn't intended to be used for this low-level shit.
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By jimjam
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Speculation that Donald is a nut job along with speculation that his tax returns may reveal, shall we say, less than ethical behavior is obviously part of the national discourse. Certainly Donald, being hyper sensitive of his image to others is aware of this.

If Donald has full confidence that he is in fact a "very stable genius" and that his tax returns reveal a successful businessman of the highest ethical standards, why does he not disclose his tax returns and have his head examined?

Could it be that he fears the truth :lol: ?
By Doug64
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jimjam wrote:Could it be that he fears the truth :lol: ?

And what evidence have you seen from our Daily Prophets that they have any interest in the truth when it comes to Conservatives generally and Trump specifically? There’s no point trying to play their game.
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By Crantag
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Igor Antunov wrote:The same doctor appointed by Obama. Trump scored 30/30 in the cognitive test, normal is 27.4/30. Trump is above normal.

The test is available online, and includes stuff like identifying 3 animals, drawing a line from point a to point b, and subtracting 8 from 100. It is about 2nd grade level stuff at most. Only possibly useful for identifying deep dimentia and stuff I figure. Google the test yourself.
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Doug64 wrote:I wouldn’t consider an article headlined “The Voters Abandoning Donald Trump” to be a “desperate attempt to find something good for Trump.”

Well, no; it was you misrepresenting what it said that was "desperate".

And personally, I consider voting to be the purest form of approval polling, so I have no problem comparing vote tallies to approval polls.

Well, you don't understand voting, then. The US presidential vote does not indicate that you approve of the one candidate that you can vote for, and no others. You will probably vote for the candidate you approve of the most. It's quite possible that people gave Trump the benefit of the doubt and thought at first "he hasn't screwed up so far, so I approve, even if I didn't vote for him". You ought to have a problem with comparing the 2 different things.

But you are right that this is a year-long survey rather than and “end-of-year” snapshot, which means that Black support for Trump is likely to be higher

That's a non sequitur. You're really not doing very well, are you? And I've link to the CNN poll showing his black approval rating decreasing through the year. Wht you personally think is 'likely' just doesn't fit reality. Another poll: Jan 20-29 15%, Dec 25-31, 6%. Again.

So taking a look at the latest week for Rasmussen’s poll of Likely Voters, Blacks come in at 26% Approve to 72% Disapprove.

Link, please. And what were Rasmussen's figures before that?
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By colliric
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Crantag wrote:The test is available online, and includes stuff like identifying 3 animals, drawing a line from point a to point b, and subtracting 8 from 100. It is about 2nd grade level stuff at most. Only possibly useful for identifying deep dimentia and stuff I figure. Google the test yourself.


Nonetheless passing the test wipes out any chance of a 25th amendment challenge given it basically requires the President to be a full retard unable to make executive decisions.

Basically an accident or senility contingency plan.
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By Crantag
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colliric wrote:Nonetheless passing the test wipes out any chance of a 25th amendment challenge given it basically requires the President to be a full retard unable to make executive decisions.

Basically an accident or senility contingency plan.

It does no such thing, remotely.

Here you go.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42717163

The MoCA may be used to support the diagnosis of dementia.


I would hope anyone who can successfully register an account on PoFo would score a 30/30.

Oh, and of course Trump requested the test. Had he practiced first?
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By blackjack21
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jimjam wrote:Steven Buser is a clinical psychiatrist and a former major in the United States Air Force. He is an editor, with Leonard Cruz, of “A Clear and Present Danger: Narcissism in the Era of President Trump.” Buser states:

I have not had the opportunity to examine the president personally, but warning signs abound. What if I had reliable outside information that Airman Trump displayed erratic emotions? That I saw very clearly that he was engaging in cyberbullying on Twitter? That he had repeatedly made untruthful or highly distorted statements? That his language implied he engaged in sexually abusive behavior? That he appeared paranoid about being surveilled or persecuted by others, that he frequently disregarded or violated the rights of others?

Steven Buser is an establishmentarian that wants Trump out of the White House. He cannot talk about policy matters, because Trump ran a substantive campaign on the issues and people voted him into office on those issues.

colliric wrote:Without a personal examination it's all bullshit.

Well, psychiatry isn't all it's cracked up to be either. We're still at our infancy in understanding brain science. We've got some of the anatomy down, but how brains work fundamentally is still something we don't understand that well.

colliric wrote:Besides the 25th amendment was written to account for situations where the president might have an accident and get brain damage or not be able to move... written to account for situations that to heads of state in Europe would traditionally require a Regent to be appointed.

It wasn't intended to be used for this low-level shit.

Well, they can't make it on the issues, because Trump supporters agree with Trump on things like border security, getting rid of ObamaCare, and so forth. He clearly ran on those issues and won on them.

jimjam wrote:Speculation that Donald is a nut job along with speculation that his tax returns may reveal, shall we say, less than ethical behavior is obviously part of the national discourse.

Again, this is because they can't make the national discourse about policy, as the establishment has been running the country against the will of the American people.

Prosthetic Conscience wrote:Link, please. And what were Rasmussen's figures before that?

That's actually very good for Trump, and probably has the Democrats concerned. Blacks typically vote 90% for the Democratic Party. If Trump is polling with 26% approval, that's got to be really disturbing to the Democratic party.
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By ingliz
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Re: Is D.Trump Insane?

Mad as a box of frogs.


:eek:
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By Hindsite
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Beren wrote:Appointed by Obama, so what? Is Obama still his boss?

It must be fake, I'd expect 33/30 from a genius like Trump.

No, it was a cognitive test, not an I.Q. test.

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By Tainari88
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jimjam wrote:Speculation that Donald is a nut job along with speculation that his tax returns may reveal, shall we say, less than ethical behavior is obviously part of the national discourse. Certainly Donald, being hyper sensitive of his image to others is aware of this.

If Donald has full confidence that he is in fact a "very stable genius" and that his tax returns reveal a successful businessman of the highest ethical standards, why does he not disclose his tax returns and have his head examined?

Could it be that he fears the truth :lol: ?


Jimjam, how dare you question that 'stable genius' of a president that we have? He is a man who needs to be worshiped. He is the King of the USA. God Hail the King!!

No one copes with problems the way they should.....he is just being criticized unfairly because of the liberals. The liberals are the elite and the ordinary blue collar Americans finally got a guy on their side....a dude who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth who doesn't give a shit about poor people and working class stiffs but whom somehow he is going to grow some empathy that he never possessed his entire life and bust a move for the working class.

I don't know what these people on here who love this elitist and disorganized egomaniac are thinking? I mean I don't like Hillary, I don't like her at all and find her horrible. But Trump wasn't a solution.

But the USA public is demoralized and down, and frankly it is due to apathy and lack of political educations. No one educates people Jimjam anymore on wealth, economics, sociology, political science and many other critical topics in this country.

I remember I took about five courses when I was in graduate school. All in political science, government, labor studies and economics. I got straight "A's" in International Politics. The professor would comment on my work and say, "This is a perfect analysis of the material." I got one who was a Republican and I prepared a debate and went for broke with a hand picked guy he chose. In the end the class had to choose who won jimjam? I won hands down. Mostly they said because they had never gotten the information that I had brought forth as proof. The professor talked to me and said, "I think we have neglected the classics in this university." I talked to him and asked him "Why did you neglect the classics?" it was basically because the classics were set aside for what was up and coming and what 'employers' out there preferred. Employers are almost all pro capitalist exclusively and will never back 'classic socialism, classic economic theory" and many things. Europe still does it. Not the USA.

Eventually you are going to get people with huge gaps in knowledge about classic political science. You can wind up with apathetic and misinformed and miseducated people making decisions without good information. That is what one has now.
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blackjack21 wrote:Prosthetic Conscience wrote:
Link, please. And what were Rasmussen's figures before that?

That's actually very good for Trump, and probably has the Democrats concerned. Blacks typically vote 90% for the Democratic Party. If Trump is polling with 26% approval, that's got to be really disturbing to the Democratic party.

As I said, link, please. You quote me, and then just ignore what I say and rabbit on about how much you admire Trump's massive ... support. I suspect this means it comes from some unreliable source, like Donald Trump. Remember, Trump is a known con-man (see: "Trump University"). If he tells you he has something big, you should laugh.
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By Hindsite
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Tainari88 wrote: I don't know what these people on here who love this elitist and disorganized egomaniac are thinking? I mean I don't like Hillary, I don't like her at all and find her horrible. But Trump wasn't a solution.

I remember I took about five courses when I was in graduate school. All in political science, government, labor studies and economics. I got straight "A's" in International Politics. The professor would comment on my work and say, "This is a perfect analysis of the material."

Donald Trump had a business education instead of a political one like you. However, in some cases having common sense can be more important. That is what Trump has to go along with his business education in which he hired thousands of employees to build things. Politicians are usually only good at cheating the tax payers out of their money. That is not the solution I want.
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By jimjam
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I am not a psychiatrist and neither are those who have been conned by the Great Man and are convinced that his wacko behavior is simply dumb like a fox and just shows what a brilliant specimen of the human race he is. Psychiatry is an imperfect science and may be a lot of crap. Whatever.

Personally when I see a guy who lies like a rug, acts like a child, grabs pussies of strangers, is generally and totally obnoxious, brags endlessly, calls anyone who has chosen values other than what he has chosen a "loser", eats cheap shit and cannot walk 100 yards because he has a giant fat ass, confuses an endless stream of tweeted nonsense with leadership and .................. it scares the shit out of me to think he has his fat little finger on the nuclear button. This is simple fear and has absolutely nothing to do with liberals, conservatives deep state or any other such political nonsense. Hopefully we will survive this American nightmare and have learned a very big lesson. I feel bad for today's kids. I will be dead but we sure as hell are leaving them a mess.

It gives me hope that we survived the Civil War and may very well survive Donald. Nukes, however, were not in abundance during the 1860's.

I think now I'll jog around the baseball field a few times.
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By colliric
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Tainari88 wrote:I don't know what these people on here who love this elitist and disorganized egomaniac are thinking? I mean I don't like Hillary, I don't like her at all and find her horrible. But Trump wasn't a solution.

But the USA public is demoralized and down, and frankly it is due to apathy and lack of political educations. No one educates people Jimjam anymore on wealth, economics, sociology, political science and many other critical topics in this country.

Eventually you are going to get people with huge gaps in knowledge about classic political science. You can wind up with apathetic and misinformed and miseducated people making decisions without good information. That is what one has now.


Sorry for editing your post down but I'm trying to respond to this section. I also had a mixed classical high school education that included Latin, English Literature, Legal Studies and a few other classes.

Us Trumpers disagree with you about Trump's education. He went to Military School where he got significant education. And went to business school. That included some corporate politics no doubt.

I would have found it better for it to have been Sanders VS Trump because it would have been more of a solid choice. But it was Hillary VS Trump, making it easy not to choose the democratic party.

My dad summed it up in few words "Give him a go and see what happens". Most of us feel this way.

I believe Trump was educated in politics through being educated in Business Politics(such as boardroom politics, sport politics, etc). I do not see this as a problem like you do, it's the type of political education that also in someway produced Reagan and other great Presidents.
By Doug64
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Prosthetic Conscience wrote:Well, no; it was you misrepresenting what it said that was "desperate".

It's kinda hard to misrepresent what the article said when I actually quoted it.

Well, you don't understand voting, then. The US presidential vote does not indicate that you approve of the one candidate that you can vote for, and no others. You will probably vote for the candidate you approve of the most. It's quite possible that people gave Trump the benefit of the doubt and thought at first "he hasn't screwed up so far, so I approve, even if I didn't vote for him". You ought to have a problem with comparing the 2 different things.

You don't personally have to like a politician to approve of the job he's doing. I don't like Trump and won't vote for him, but if I was asked I'd have to say that I somewhat approve of the job he's doing. But what's important right now is the impact his job approval may have on the mid-terms, and that increase in Blacks' approval of the job Trump is doing has to be worrying Democrats.

And I've link to the CNN poll showing his black approval rating decreasing through the year.

That's CNN, you actually believe them? Anything from any of our Daily Prophets that makes Trump look bad, I need independent verification from a credible source before I'll take it seriously. Considering how badly they're suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, I don't see how I can do anything else.

Wht you personally think is 'likely' just doesn't fit reality. Another poll: Jan 20-29 15%, Dec 25-31, 6%. Again.

Likewise, Gallup is the polling company that was so embarrassed by their previous performance at polling the presidential race that they didn't bother last time. I'll take the polling company that did the best of all the major companies at polling the final spread between Clinton and Trump.

Link, please. And what were Rasmussen's figures before that?

I can't give you a link, the cross tabs are behind a pay wall. And as I said, the 8% figure for the number of Blacks that voted for Trump is good enough a starting point for me.
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By Hindsite
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Doug64 wrote:You don't personally have to like a politician to approve of the job he's doing. I don't like Trump and won't vote for him, but if I was asked I'd have to say that I somewhat approve of the job he's doing. But what's important right now is the impact his job approval may have on the mid-terms, and that increase in Blacks' approval of the job Trump is doing has to be worrying Democrats.

I a disappointed to see that you would not vote for Trump. I think he is the only chance we have to turn our nation away from its evil heading into destruction.
By Doug64
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Hindsite wrote:I a disappointed to see that you would not vote for Trump. I think he is the only chance we have to turn our nation away from its evil heading into destruction.

His revealed character falls well below my minimum standard.
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