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Trump administration is thinking about nationalizing 5G mobile network
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/28/trump-a ... twork.html

National security officials in the Trump administration are looking at options where the U.S. government could take over a part of the country's mobile network as a way of guarding against China, news outlet Axios reported.

Axios, citing sensitive documents it obtained, said there are two options up for consideration: First, the U.S. government could pay for and build a single, super-fast mobile network and could then rent access to national carriers. The move, according to Axios, could see an unprecedented nationalization of infrastructure that has historically been privately owned.

But, the news outlet reported, a source familiar with the matter said a newer version of the document is neutral about whether the government should build and own such a network.

The alternative, according to Axios, is that wireless providers in the U.S. build their own 5G networks that would compete with one another — an option the document said could be costly and more time-consuming, but would be less commercially disruptive to the industry.

The reason for even considering nationalization of part of the system is that China "has achieved a dominant position in the manufacture and operation of network infrastructure" and it's "the dominant malicious actor in the Information Domain," the document said, according to Axios.

Reuters reported that a senior administration official on Sunday said that the government wants to build a secure 5G network and it'll have to work with the industry to figure out the best way to do it.

"We want to build a network so the Chinese can't listen to your calls," the official told Reuters. "We have to have a secure network that doesn't allow bad actors to get in. We also have to ensure the Chinese don't take over the market and put every non-5G network out of business."

The matter was being debated at a lower level, the official said to Reuters, adding that it would take between six to eight months before it reaches President Donald Trump for consideration.

On Monday, the Federal Communications Commission warned against the notion of government-owned networks.

"I oppose any proposal for the federal government to build and operate a nationwide 5G network," FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said, in a statement. "Any federal effort to construct a nationalized 5G network would be a costly and counterproductive distraction from the policies we need to help the United States win the 5G future."

The fifth generation (hence the 5G name) of mobile networks aims to provide faster data speeds and more bandwidth to carry ever-growing levels of web traffic. Late last year, the first specification for 5G was completed, which was considered a huge step toward commercializing the technology.

Market watchers have predicted the technology will have more than one billion users by 2023, with more than half based in China. U.S. carriers are already working on deploying 5G networks.

So... selective nationalization? Protecting general access for 5G but fuck the internet?

It seems like Republicans are really into nationalizing things and rampant state spending on architecture... when they involve explosives.
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Interesting. Why not just scramble the calls. Reasonable security can be achieved with relatively easy scramblers. But the government would not like this. It would thwart their surveillance which one could perhaps fear more than China.
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:O Didn't see this thread... If someone can delete this news thread: viewtopic.php?f=76&p=14883911#p14883911 I'd appreciate it. Thanks

The memo, which was first reported by Axios and attributed to Trump national security officials, argues that Chinese companies have come to dominate the market for the chips and antennas necessary for sustaining a 5G wireless network, and that poses security risks for a U.S. 5G network. As a successor to 4G LTE, 5G is expected to provide a reliable, ultrafast wireless connectivity to a growing industry of high-tech inventions such as self-driving cars and artificial intelligence — even “true AI enhanced networked combat,” according to the memo. The “moonshot” project could resemble that of the 1950s-era national interstate system, according to the internal documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 7363d52809

We should study the effects of non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation before we roll out this communications/weapons system. I mean Active Denial Systems use wave bands around 95GHz to produce thermal effects...

Cellular technology transmits data over radio waves, which depending on the type of electromagnetic signal is measured as a different frequency. The higher the frequency, the smaller the wavelength, so millimeter wave technology refers to signals with a wavelength that’s measured in millimeters, and is generally defined as between 30 GHz and 300 GHz. For 5G, the FCC has already made available swaths of the spectrum in the millimeter wave range for both licensed and unlicensed use as of last summer for companies to begin exploring 5G options (specifically, licensed use in the 28 GHz, 37 GHz, and 39 GHz bands, unlicensed use in the 64-71 GHz band, and shared access in the 37-37.6 GHz band).
https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/24/1470 ... meter-wave


AFRL officials have been involved in researching the operationally useful effects of millimeter waves for almost 20 years. These wavelengths occur in the one to 10 mm (0.04-0.4 in.) region of the electromagnetic spectrum, which means they are larger than infrared waves but smaller than radio waves or microwaves. Millimeter waves correspond to radio band frequencies of 30-300 GHz. In the late 1980s, AFRL researchers discovered a particular effect of 94 GHz energy that ultimately became the basis for the ADS.

The system focuses a beam of millimeter waves occurring at this 94 GHz frequency. The effect is a rapid heating of the human target's (adversary's) skin that is extremely uncomfortable and ultimately prompts the individual to flee the beam. The AFRL Joint Nonlethal Weapons Directorate, Air Force Force Protection Battlelab, and Office of the Secretary of Defense Advanced Systems and Concepts Office funded ADS development through an Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... ional.html


Multifunctional radio frequency directed energy system
Raytheon Co patent

Radio frequency directed energy (RFDE) systems are known in the art for directing high power RF, microwave and/or millimeter wave electromagnetic energy to destroy or disrupt a target. Although RFDE systems typically serve as military weapons, RFDE systems need not be limited to weapon systems. For example, RFDE systems of the present invention may be used for non-military purposes such as destroying or disrupting foreign objects, contaminants, undesirable atmospheric conditions, or other types of targets.

As for weapon systems, it is important to distinguish between an RFDE weapon system and an electronic warfare system. A primary difference between an RFDE weapon and an electronic warfare system is power and kill mode. An electronic warfare system makes use of a priori knowledge of a target it is designed to jam or disrupt. An electronic warfare system uses such a priori knowledge of a target's characteristics (e.g., frequency of operation, method of operation, etc.) to disrupt or confuse the target with “finesse”, or a relatively low amount of power.

On the other hand, an RFDE weapon system can go after a broad range of targets (electronics, biological, ordinance, structures, etc.) due to its relatively large radiated power. A priori knowledge of the intended target characteristics is typically not required because the RFDE weapon either burns-out or overwhelms its target by the shear amount of power it radiates.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7629918B2/en


5G is not just a data network.
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Air Force general behind 5G memo leaves White House

The author of a memo arguing for a government takeover of development of the nation's 5G mobile network has been removed from the National Security Council staff. The memo's unauthorized release this week caused uproar in the telecom community and created embarrassment for the White House.

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Spalding was known both inside and outside the administration as a China hawk. From 2014 to 2016 he led the China division at the Joint Chiefs of Staff and before joining the Trump White House he was the U.S. defense attaché at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. One key argument for Spalding's 5G plan was that only the government can properly defend technological infrastructure from Chinese interference.


https://www.stripes.com/news/us/air-for ... e-1.509849
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The Immortal Goon wrote:Giving the US a modern internet infrastructure would be rad :up:



The internet infrastructure here is actually very modern. What's different here from other developed nations is simply how it's managed. This is why high speed internet costs more in the US than other places. The infrastructure itself, is already top notch.
By RhetoricThug
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5G, please excuse its conflation...

Rancid wrote:The internet infrastructure here is actually very modern. What's different here from other developed nations is simply how it's managed. This is why high speed internet costs more in the US than other places. The infrastructure itself, is already top notch.
True, but you're a biological vessel, you will absorb artificial non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation. God forbid I tell ya bout the birds and the bees... how they navigate. Obviously you're not interested in the implications, as long as you can browse bunk-packets you'll be satisfied. While full-spectrum dominance is the goal, the way to get there is to "invest in and develop new military capabilities." The four capabilities at the heart of full-spectrum dominance are dominant maneuver, precision engagement, focused logistics and full-dimensional protection. Communication is not about the transportation of information, it's about the transformation of information (be it physical, psycho-social, spiritual, etc).

Information Fusion
Timely, accurate information is the foundation of transformation. DOD seeks to merge operational and logistics information to provide a common operating picture accessible to both operators and logisticians. Access to information is vital to achieving the speed and precision envisioned for focused logistics. DOD is working toward a network-centric logistics environment with improved asset visibility that can shape a mass of data into information that commanders can use. To reach that state, DOD is developing ways to better capture data through the use of auto-matic identification technology; integrating GCSS mission applications into the Global Command and Control System (GCCS); improving joint decision-support tools like GCSS (Combatant Command/JTF); and increasing data integrity through such actions as designating the Defense Logistics Agency as the DOD Logistics Functional Data Administrator.


Is the art of war engaged in 'gene-washing,' or does militaristic competition serve as an unwitting catalyst for THE evolutionary process happening right now, all around you? The sun emits short-wave radiation (information), and we're communication channels. Biological evolution is directly linked to the way 'light' communicates with 'life' on planet earth. Subtle changes in our environment through artificial EMFs will incrementally modify the evolution of biological organisms. Cellular structures respond and adapt to electromagnetic stimuli. Is warfare a biological communication process? What's the difference between a word and a weapon? Especially when a word can become a weapon, and a weapon can become man's word.

Shortwave (SW) is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and it has a frequency range varying from 3 MHz to 30 MHz, which belongs to the high frequency (HF) band. This HF band is frequently used in military radars, radio transmissions and industrial equipment. Additionally, several technologies based on the delivery of SW radio frequency energy are available for therapeutic medical applications [1, 2, 3].

However, it cannot be ignored that the non-ionizing radiation of SW with HF may damage biological tissues by non-thermal or thermal mechanisms [4, 5, 6]. It is known that a rapidly moving electromagnetic field (EMF) can be a health hazard when the energy level is sufficiently high enough, but the variety of electromagnetic devices with different radiation intensities makes the biological effects inconsistent.


Now factor in convergent evolution, In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process whereby organisms not closely related (not monophyletic), independently evolve similar traits as a result of having to adapt to similar environments or ecological niches.

Technology as an extension of human biology modifies our environment and in return influences our biological evolution. From a 21st century perspective, many people think we'll transcend natural selection and enter a post-human age (transhumanism, post-humanism, etc). Nonetheless, there's always the possibility that we could 'over-stimulate' ourselves and interrupt the natural evolutionary process to the point of biological collapse/extinction. Of course, if we're a stepping stone to a 'higher life-form,' perhaps technology is a 'natural' part of biological evolution, and we're actively engaged in our extinction to make way for a more advanced system of life here on planet earth. :hmm: Either way, artificial EMFs will influence the evolution of biological organisms on planet earth.


The Immortal Goon wrote:
Giving the US a modern internet infrastructure would be rad

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Shouldn't you be playing political dungeons and dragons oppressed and oppressors? To think, you'll be able to quote a dead person faster than ever before! That's really rad, bro. Got some ding-dong dialectics fo-youz.

Oh don't worry boiling frogs, 5g will be obsolesced by sleep-walking scientists that march to the 'faster, better, stronger,' mantra.

5G won’t cope, terahertz will provide more bandwidth
Researchers say 5G won't be able to accommodate the growing demand for bandwidth. Terahertz-frequency networks, with their larger capacity and smaller power needs, will be the better option.


Terahertz data links promise significant advantages over existing microwave-based wireless data transmissions, and the technology will ultimately beat out the upcoming 5G millimeter frequencies if progress continues on it, researchers say.

The reason for the optimism is that terahertz is more capacious than existing radio bands. It’s also less power hungry, and new technical advances are being made in it.

The latest terahertz-level advance, announced this week by scientists at Brown University, is the ability to bounce the mega-bandwidth-carrying waves of energy around corners. Quashing that line-of-sight requirement introduces a level of robustness not seen before.

"I think moving into terahertz frequencies will be the future of wireless communications," says Shaghik Atakaramians, an optical engineer who is part of a separate, multi-university Australian group developing a new, magnetism-based platform for the radiation-based terahertz technology. She was quoted in a press release this week related to a paper his group published in APL Photonics.

Scientists are bullish on terahertz. The Brown University team says yet-to-be-launched super-carrier 5G isn’t going to be able to cope, partly because of projected growth in the Internet of Things (IoT).

Upcoming 5G “will not be sufficient to keep pace with the rapidly increasing global demand for bandwidth,” the Brown University scientists say in their invited article, also published by APL Photonics this month.

Those researchers claim shorter wavelength terahertz, which is found between radio spectrum and infrared, will have about 100 times the data capacity of microwaves. (Microwaves are what we use now for cellular and Wi-Fi.) And the researchers say the alternative, upcoming 5G’s peak data throughput of a few gigabits per second, will not be enough. 5G’s millimeter bands will be “far short of the anticipated needs,” they claim.

Moving forward with terahertz

Other scientific progress that’s been made in terahertz recently includes multiplexing. I reported on that in 2015, as well as on the feasibility of chips capable of the high frequencies needed for terahertz.

Additionally, Harvard University late last year said it has been exploring using infrared laser technology to create terahertz.

The problem, though, is that terahertz implementation isn’t easy. The “channel characteristics” are not “well established,” the Brown University researchers explain. That’s because the frequencies (95 GHz and above) are actually beyond known characteristics — there are no FCC service rules, for example, they say.
Trouble issues can include power loss and signal degradation. Much like the high end of microwave, obstructions block paths because the waves are so small they can’t get around things like they can in traditional radio.

Even water droplets, as one gets in rain and fog, can cause issues with microwave. With terahertz, any object could simply stop it, and any attempt to get around that would use too much power, it has been thought. That’s why Brown University’s discovery of a way to bounce the signal off walls and the ground, and thus handle difficult environments in a power-friendly way, is important.

“You can imagine that if your line-of-site path is blocked, you could think about bouncing it off the ground to get there,” says Daniel Mittleman, a professor in Brown University’s School of Engineering, in a press release.

Interestingly, the researchers say transmitting over grass will be better than concrete for focus and interference reduction because grass holds water.That absorbs terahertz and stops the principal beam from fanning out and getting corrupted. Eco-networking, perhaps?
https://www.networkworld.com/article/32 ... width.html
The Active Denial System will support a full spectrum of operations ranging from non-lethal methods of crowd control, crowd dispersal, convoy and patrol protection, checkpoint security, perimeter security, area denial, and port protection, as well as other defensive and offensive operations from both fixed-site or mobile platforms.

Using a gallium nitride semiconductor energy source to produce 95 GHz millimeter waves, solid state Active Denial Technology can be used as a stand-alone "adjunct" system that is integrated onto new or existing platforms.
http://jnlwp.defense.gov/About/Frequent ... stem-FAQs/

Up to 60% of the human adult body is water. According to H.H. Mitchell, Journal of Biological Chemistry 158, the brain and heart are composed of 73% water, and the lungs are about 83% water. The skin contains 64% water, muscles and kidneys are 79%, and even the bones are watery


Yes, eco-networking, that's a good one. Yall really need to take a step back and evaluate what's going on.
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Like the use of chemical & biological agents during the 20th century, directed energy weapons will need weapons sanctions.

I'll post some excerpts from a recent NY Times article.
Diplomats in Cuba Suffered Brain Injuries. Experts Still Don’t Know Why.

A group of American diplomats stationed in Havana appear to have symptoms of concussion without ever having received blows to their heads, medical experts have found.

The incidents occurred in 2016, when 18 of the 21 affected diplomats reported they heard strange sounds in their homes or hotel rooms. The noises were loud and sounded like buzzing or grinding metal, or piercing squeals or humming,the diplomats recalled.

Many said they felt increased air pressure, as if they were riding in a car with the windows rolled partway down. Three diplomats said they felt a vibration.

All but one reported immediate symptoms: headache, pain in one ear, loss of hearing. Days or weeks later, other symptoms emerged, including memory problems, an inability to concentrate, mood problems, headaches and fatigue.

The State Department asked researchers at the University of Pennsylvania to investigate. Their report confirmed neurological problems in the diplomats, including signs of what appear to be concussions.

“We all believe this is a real syndrome,” Dr. Smith added.“This is concussion without blunt head trauma.”

Dr. Smith and his colleagues do not think audible sound caused the injuries, as sound in an audible range does not damage the brain. Perhaps, they speculated, a device that produced another sort of harmful energy also produced an audible sound. Low-frequency infrasound, high-frequency ultrasound and microwaves have all been shown to damage the brain, the researchers noted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/heal ... sions.html

As usual, America is blaming the Cuban gov and the Cuban gov is blaming American Intelligence. Nonetheless, a party used a directed energy weapon.

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