Atlantis wrote:To beat a narcissistic man-child in a trade war is really not a big challenge.
If he's in charge of the largest economy in the world, it may present a few challenges.
jimjam wrote:The U.S. is now behaving in ways that could all too easily lead to a breakdown of the whole trading system and a drastic, disruptive reduction in world trade.
Cool. The open borders people are willing to pay that price, and opponents of them are too. That's what needs to happen.
jimjam wrote:Yet Trump appears to believe that the whole world will bow down to American economic power and his deal-making prowess.
They have been able to get away with a lot for decades. So it will require a negative sum situation to correct it. Both of us have to lose for awhile, one more than the other. That's the nature of war.
One Degree wrote:The fact our trading partners preferred Obama to Trump should be a clue whose policies benefit the US.
That's a very good point. The adversaries of America always warn us that we'll be laughed at by Europeans, etc. Who the hell cares?
Godstud wrote:Yes, it should be a great big clue that Trump's a fucking moron, and going to damage American trade, along with the economy, with his myopic policies. Get a clue.
Now you're concern trolling about American economic well being? If we want to destroy our own economy, that's our choice.
Godstud wrote:No, but it does lead to some very stupid and regrettable things. Nationalism led to Nazi Germany.
By that logic, internationalism led to the Soviet Union and Maoist China, which was far worse in terms of death tolls.
jimjam wrote:The US will be seen by the rest of the world, excepting Russia, as, like Donald, being unable to work and play well with others. We will be relegated to a marginal role in world trade while the rest of the world fills the void left by our exit from the stage.
jimjam wrote:Donald's tactics worked well with the Republican party because he was able to create a dynamic where unless you flattered his ego and kissed his ass, your $ would wither and you would not be reelected.
Trump's tactics worked, because he attacked an unpopular establishment and reflected the frustrations of his supporters. He did it within the Republican party too.
jimjam wrote:Let's face it, who, other than suck ups, would even want to be in the same room with this mental case.
Anybody serious about competition would revel at the opportunity. That's what makes Trump worthwhile. The establishment Republicans and Democrats were just two sides of the same coin. Jeb Bush would only be marginally different from Hillary Clinton. The neoconservatives and neoliberals are two sides of the same coin, but they lost the 2016 US presidential election for the first time since the Reagan era.
Godstud wrote:Also, we've benefited greatly from globalism, and the benefits outweigh any disadvantages.
That's easy to say in Bangkok, but not so much in Detroit.
Godstud wrote:Nationalism, on the other hand, has been the cause of some far greater problems, and history speaks volumes on this.
Yes, we know the Jews got the short end of the stick. That happens throughout history for reasons that have nothing to do with nationalism per se.
Godstud wrote:Trump knows nothing about economics.
He went to UPenn Wharton. He probably knows more than you do.
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