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By Godstud
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Trump is a terrible fucking piece of shit. That's based on what he says and does, @One Degree. I am sorry you are simply to blinded by your adoration, to see that.

I don't pay attention to propaganda, because I am not a Demwit or a Rapeublican. Your stupid suggestions are just that. Your accusations are childish and myopic. Par for the course from a right-winger Trump cultist, of course.
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Godstud wrote:You don't need to be a brain surgeon to see Trump's behavior and what he says.

I like Trump's behavior and especially what he says. I agree with him over Obama.
What is wrong with making America great again?
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By Godstud
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When was America great, to begin with?

When did it stop being great?

These are questions no one seems to want to answer. It's all just some vague reference to some fictitious time in America's history. Many argue that America was greater 6 years ago, under Obama, and that, if anything, Trump's made America worse.
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By Godstud
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Libertarian353 wrote:1961.
- So, during the Civil Rights movement when they were waving flags saying, "N***** Go Home", there was over a 50% corporate tax rate, when USA started deploying troops in Vietnam, the height of the Cold War.... etc. etc.

Libertarian353 wrote:1864.
:lol: So in the middle of the Civil War?? :knife:
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Godstud wrote:When was America great, to begin with?
America was great when we won WWII and ended it with the atomic bomb. America was also great when we ended the cold war and broke up the Soviet Union.

Godstud wrote:When did it stop being great?

When Obama became President.
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@Godstud

I'm answering from hindsite point a view. I meant to say 1861, but to be fair trump folk not good at numbers. For all we know the civil war was in 1961, since it's the 19th century.

@Hindsite

So when the Black person was president?
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By Godstud
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Hindsite wrote:America was great when we won WWII and ended it with the atomic bomb.
So when USA had an extremely high corporate tax rate and rampant racism?

Hindsite wrote:America was also great when we ended the cold war and broke up the Soviet Union.
America didn't do that. The Soviet Union did that. Any other non-facts you want to present?

Hindsite wrote:When Obama became President.
By what line of reasoning? What changed? Is it because he wasn't white? He did nothing that any previous President hadn't really done.
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Libertarian353 wrote:@Hindsite

So when the Black person was president?

Yeah, when the country started electing left-wing loons and the the black person that started apologizing for America's strength and began doing everything to undermine it.
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By Godstud
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Please provide a source showing that Obama undermined American power. I think you're making up bullshit.


If anything, Obama continued the American Superpower foreign policy, unabated.
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A common theme that runs through President Obama's statements is the idea the United States must atone for its past policies, whether it is America's application of the war against Islamist terrorism or its overall foreign policy. At the core of this message is the concept that the U.S. is a flawed nation that must seek redemption by apologizing for its past "sins."

On several occasions, President Obama has sought to apologize for the actions of his own country when addressing a foreign audience--including seven of the 10 apologies listed below. The President has already apologized for his country to nearly 3 billion people across Europe, the Muslim world, and the Americas.

The Obama Administration's strategy of unconditional engagement with America's enemies combined with a relentless penchant for apology-making is a dangerous recipe for failure. The overall effect of this approach has been to weaken American power on the world stage rather than strengthen it.

President Obama's personal approval ratings across much of the world may be sky high, but that has not translated into greater support for U.S.-led initiatives, such as the NATO mission in Afghanistan, which is heavily dependent on American and British troops. The U.S. is increasingly viewed as a soft touch internationally, which has encouraged rogue regimes such as North Korea and Iran to accelerate their nuclear and missile programs.

As President Obama embarks this week on his second major overseas tour, which will take him to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Germany, and France, the world does not need yet another apology from the President. Rather, it is looking for strong and principled leadership from the most powerful nation on the face of the earth. American leadership is not a popularity contest, nor should it be an exercise in self-loathing. Rather, it is about taking tough positions that will be met with hostility in many parts of the globe. Above all, it demands the assertive projection of American power, both to secure the homeland and to protect America's allies.

The following is a list of the 10 most significant apologies by the President of the United States in his first four months of office as they relate to foreign policy and national security issues.

1. Apology to France and Europe ("America Has Shown Arrogance")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.

2. Apology to the Muslim World ("We Have Not Been Perfect")

President Obama, interview with Al Arabiya, January 27, 2009.

3. Apology to the Summit of the Americas ("At Times We Sought to Dictate Our Terms")

President Obama, address to the Summit of the Americas opening ceremony, Hyatt Regency, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, April 17, 2009.

4. Apology at the G-20 Summit of World Leaders ("Some Restoration of America's Standing in the World")

News conference by President Obama, ExCel Center, London, United Kingdom, April 2, 2009.

5. Apology for the War on Terror ("We Went off Course")

President Obama, speech at the National Archives, Washington, D.C., May 21, 2009.

6. Apology for Guantanamo in France ("Sacrificing Your Values")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009

7. Apology before the Turkish Parliament ("Our Own Darker Periods in Our History")

Speech by President Obama to the Turkish Parliament, Ankara, Turkey, April 6, 2009.

8. Apology for U.S. Policy toward the Americas ("The United States Has Not Pursued and Sustained Engagement with Our Neighbors")

Opinion editorial by President Obama: "Choosing a Better Future in the Americas," April 16, 2009.

9. Apology for the Mistakes of the CIA ("Potentially We've Made Some Mistakes")

Remarks by the President to CIA employees, CIA Headquarters, Langley, Virginia, April 20, 2009.

10. Apology for Guantanamo in Washington ("A Rallying Cry for Our Enemies")

President Obama, speech at the National Archives, Washington, D.C., May 21, 2009.

https://www.heritage.org/europe/report/ ... superpower

Montage of Obama apologizing for America


Obama Apologizes for America in UN
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So in short, you hate when America fucks up and has to apologize for it. :knife:

I see only your derision for an America showing a conscience.

Obama apologizing for not closing Guantanamo, as he said he would? What's wrong with that? You'd rather he just continued to lie about it, like Trump does about his fucking wall? I see some major hypocrisy here.

Also... An apology is not a sign of weakness, but of strength. Cowards and weaklings never apologize, because they are afraid to look weak. A strong country, or person, has no fear of this. Yes, fear... something cowards and weaklings have in abundance.

America, as a Superpower, has probably reached its peak during Obama's Presidency, even if you can't see past Obama's skin colour.
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President Barack Obama will step down after eight years as commander in chief with one of the most influential tenures leading the U.S. military, but not necessarily the political support of service members.

His moves to slim down the armed forces, move away from traditional military might and overhaul social policies prohibiting the service of minority groups have proven divisive in the ranks. His critics have accused him of trading a strong security posture for political points, and for allowing the rise of terrorists like the Islamic State group whom the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were supposed to silence.

More than half of troops surveyed in the latest Military Times/Institute for Veterans and Military Families poll said they have an unfavorable opinion of Obama and his two-terms leading the military. About 36 percent said they approve of his job as commander in chief.

Their complaints include the president’s decision to decrease military personnel (71 percent think it should be higher), his moves to withdraw combat troops from Iraq (59 percent say it made America less safe) and his lack of focus on the biggest dangers facing America (64 percent say China represents a significant threat to the U.S.)

"There’s no question this era will go down as the third ‘hollow’ army, and it’s the president’s fault," said James Jay Carafano, deputy director of international studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "For all his promises, the operations tempo hasn’t gone down as much as he hoped, and he has invested little in the military."

Troops responding to the Military Times/IVMF poll saw years of defense budget fights as the largest blemish on Obama’s presidency. Two-thirds said spending caps enacted in 2011 have had a very negative effect on military morale, and another 28 percent said it was harmful to a lesser extent. Fewer than two percent saw the budget caps as a positive for the military.

Conservatives have attacked Obama for the lower defense budgets for years, arguing that his insistence on pairing military spending with non-defense spending has crippled Pentagon efforts to modernize and recapitalize.

The caps — known as sequestration — have been blamed for shortfalls in parts and repairs, cuts in training time and a gradual drawdown in military manpower. They’ve also contributed to a host of compensation trims, as Pentagon leaders have held down pay increases and stipend raises in recent years to help offset funding reductions in other areas.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017 ... is-legacy/
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So what's your fucking point? Get to it. Some people didn't like his tenure. So what? Every president has their critics.

USA can hardly be seen as having lost influence because of Obama's tenure. That would be a claim without legitimacy.

Trump is hardly doing better with regards to popularity, with the troops. :lol:

Support for Trump is fading among active-duty troops, new poll shows
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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... oll-shows/

Aside from the military, Trump is one of the least popular presidents in US history.
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Godstud wrote:Trump is hardly doing better with regards to popularity, with the troops.

President Trump got them a pay increase with the last spending bill he signed. The military budget was increased by about $20 billion.
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Trump is super cool. However, he may need to do something about the Chairman of the Fed if he wants to get re-elected. :D
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