Libertarian353 wrote:https://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/l ... 1218176739 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 666667002/
You interpret this sort of thing through some sort of racial justice filter. I think Boyd is probably justified in shooting the suspected burglar (who was probably also a minority, but that isn't mentioned). It doesn't appear Boyd is going to be charged with murder, but rather that the police found evidence of drug dealing during the shooting investigation. Michael Drejka in the instant case didn't drop a pound of marijuana on the ground while shooting Markeis McGlockton who illegally parked in a handicapped parking spot.
Normally, I would say something like, "you do understand the difference here, don't you?" However, I'm coming to the conclusion that you don't understand the difference. I don't think SpecialOlympian gets it either, and I think that persistent misunderstanding falls along racial lines (that is, I don't think you are white) and is not some sort of rhetorical contrivance you have concocted for trolling purposes.
As for Sherell "Rell" Lewis getting run over, there is no evidence presented that Matthew Martin intended to run over Lewis, which would make it a homicide rather than an accident. It does show, however, that the Matthew Martin is exceptionally cavalier about the accident. If you can demonstrate that Matthew Martin intended to kill, then you most certainly have a case. You can't prosecute someone just because they are heartless assholes after an accident. If we could, I'd buy stock in prison construction companies, because we currently don't have enough places to put all the assholes.
Libertarian353 wrote:If our ability is not lasting 5 minutes in the sun, than I agree.
You come across as more sincere when you aren't purporting to be white. White people do last more than 5 minutes in the sun.
Libertarian353 wrote:It seems whites especially law and order folk have tendency to project their unlawful actions and insecurity upon Blacks when interacting them, as if there were some correlation between right wing people and their ability to scapegoat minorities for whites lack of responsibility.
This thread isn't about law enforcement taking unlawful actions against blacks, and nothing has been presented to that effect. Are you suggesting that the police are acting in an unlawful manner in the Boyd case? I think a good attorney would work to suppress any evidence the police found following the shooting on 4th Amendment grounds. I think pot laws are pretty stupid. Police should focus on drugs that lead to anti-social behavior, like methamphetamine, PCP, ketamine, etc. Your trailing comment isn't clear to me. What do you mean about right wing people scapegoating minorities (as though there are no right wing minorities) for white people's lack of responsibility?
Libertarian353 wrote:He move back with his hands in the air.
I just watched the video again. This is a figment of your imagination.
Libertarian353 wrote:Irrelevant considering people get arrested for not following police instructions if their lucky.
If the police are giving you a lawful order, you have to comply. A dispatcher making a suggestion isn't giving a lawful order.
Libertarian353 wrote:He harass and goated the boy, where upon Martin defended himself.
This is why I say that there is a clear delineation between people who think confronting unpleasant behavior with violence is okay, and those who think it is understandable, but unlawful. Markeis McGlockton's behavior is understandable, but it was clearly unlawful. Michael Drejka's behavior was lawful, but not at all agreeable. You can't prosecute someone simply because the outcome is disagreeable. It has to be unlawful. That is a difference I don't think you understand, and I think that is true of a great many people.
Libertarian353 wrote:As the law clearly cleared the so called murderer of Katie Satie.
Again, can you provide a substantive link. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Libertarian353 wrote:Like how the media concocted the stories of how Dylan Rood wasn't a terrorist and he had "mental issue".
Generally, the point of characterising someone as a terrorist is so that the law can take action against cohorts/co-conspirators/accessories. In the Roof case, he clearly acted alone. If it makes you feel better to call him a terrorist, that's fine with me. As a matter of law, it's just not a substantive argument.
Libertarian353 wrote:They also did the same Nia Long killer, a white supremacist with a criminal record.
Again, if you would substantiate the name dropping, I could at least comment. The only Nia Long I came up with is still alive. Are you saying Nia Long was killed or that Nia Long is a killer?
Libertarian353 wrote:Again same with the Seth Rich and Fox News
Seth Rich's murder isn't a racial storyline, a stand your ground line, etc. The reason people question his murder is that it looks to many people like it was a deep state hit.
Libertarian353 wrote:The juries are known to have racist biases. The stand-your-ground law is clear indeed, only to harm minorities.
Hardly. In your first case, Boyd isn't being charged with murder, which would happen under Texas law. The article noted that he might face federal charges, because of the marijuana.
Libertarian353 wrote:Trump pardoning of the Bundy militia, Dinesh D'souza and Joe Arpario
Arpaio was pardoned, because he was held in contempt more or less for upholding the law. Dinesh D'Souza was pardoned, because he was singled out for being anti-Obama. The Hammonds were pardoned because they were also harshly treated for a controlled burn that got out of control. I think all of them were political as well, which would inure to Trump's political benefit.
Libertarian353 wrote:So you had an racist opinion without any form of evidence.
I am a libertarian, not an egalitarian. So I don't have a problem with racial attitudes or outlooks. I only have a problem crimes against the person and crimes against the property of a person. I don't even delve much into the notion of "rights" anymore, since the Supreme Court is making a mockery out of the notion.
Libertarian353 wrote:Violence isn't accepted by any group receiving it, Black or white.
That's an odd point to make when you are expressing dismay that a black man was shot after initiating violence.
Libertarin353 wrote:If anything for whites our violence is not acceptable among any race including ourselves regardless of being larger or smaller within our proximity.
This is why I think multiculturalism is not a workable idea. Multicultural societies usually are plagued with chronic internecine violence.
Libertarian353 wrote:Funny enough it was the white supremacists who made the claim, in order to downplay the fact Zimmerman and majority of Hispanics consider themselves white.
It was the media that ran that narrative, because they were trying to create black vs. white conflict and plug "teachable moments." The problem is that the intent of the propaganda program utterly missed the mark. The media realized it could get ratings by fanning disagreement.
Libertarian353 wrote:I don't know where you get the idea of that the "establishment" wanted to divide people European dissent, conservatives do a good job themselves. They don't consider Spanish European.
This is why it's silly for you to proffer yourself as white. Perhaps you have some European ancestry, but I'm guessing you are black. Europe is not a united people and never has been. European Americans aren't either, although civic nationalism blunted that fact until the establishment embraced multiculturalism. Here in America, I'm white. In the UK, my first name makes me a Catholic. In Ireland, my last name makes me English. There are no white people in Europe. It's an American abstraction. Perhaps Europeans will start seeing it that way as they start creating the same sorts of ghettos the US has. At least now they can't be as smug as they used to be.
Libertarian353 wrote:Cause they're idiots who voted for him in a last ditch effort to retain racial supremacy in america, not knowing like clockwork it will kill more of them than it will for Blacks.
There are lots of idiots in the United States, and they didn't all vote for Trump.
Libertarian353 wrote:That's it, you're a racist, they're racist, you want race war.
I've never called for a race war. I do think by the time I'm Drlee or jimjam's age, I'll have seen some things that make Hitler look like a piker though.
Libertarian353 wrote:Cause the lesson has not stuck in, til people like you stop disturbering shit like "it seems that blacks seem to have problems interacting with police officers regardless of the police officer's race, as if there were some innate oppositional defiance disorder more prevalent among black populations."
That suggests that your political theory is too frail to stand up to anything failing absolute adherence. That is why I see it as pointless.
Libertarian353 wrote:It could also be due to the fact that the black man in this case did in fact violate the handicap parking space laws, whereas Trayvon Martin hadn't violated any laws until he assaulted Zimmerman.
Not a justification for their deaths.
I'm sure you feel that way as a moral matter. As a legal matter, it is justified. It's a bitter pill. Neither Martin nor McGlockton would be dead today had they not initiated violence the force of which knocked people to the ground. The law of the jungle doesn't prevail in modern society.
Libertarian353 wrote:You're defending a criminal who at a history of violent confrontation and wanted to kill.
I've said numerous times that I think he's an asshole, like I think most SJWs are assholes. He's just not guilty of murder.
Libertarian353 wrote:I'm only wasting my time, you're trying to gaslight me again.
I'm not trying to gaslight you. I'm trying to get you to see that white people educated in civics and law will see these events in a fundamentally different way than black people do. I'm not saying that is right or wrong, good or bad as a general remark. I would just follow on that this is why I think multiculturalism will not work. This "race war" stuff is a product of your imagination, not mine.
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