[Zagadka]

Democrats strip superdelegates of power and reform caucuses in 'historic' move
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/democ ... ve-n903866

CHICAGO — The Democratic National Committee voted Saturday to significantly curtail the power of superdelegates and make presidential caucuses more accessible, overcoming objections from a vocal minority of its membership.

The reform package, pushed by DNC Chairman Tom Perez and allies of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, among others, passed overwhelmingly by voice vote at the DNC’s summer meeting here — two years after the process started.

Perez and others hailed the outcome as momentous, saying the reforms will help welcome new people into the party by reassuring them that their vote will never be overruled by the party leaders who can vote for whomever they want for the presidential nomination.

“Today is a historic day for our party,” Perez said. “We passed major reforms that will not only put our next presidential nominee in the strongest position possible, but will help us elect Democrats up and down the ballot, across the country.”

The change will prohibit superdelegates from voting for president at the party’s 2020 convention, unless the outcome is already assured or it deadlocks, which hasn’t happened in decades. The vast majority of superdelegates sided with Hillary Clinton over Sanders in their primary fight two years ago.

"Today's decision by the DNC is an important step forward," Sanders said in a statement. "This has been a long and arduous process, and I want to thank Tom Perez and all of those who made it happen.”

The new rules will also make caucuses more accessible by requiring state parties to accept absentee votes, addressing concerns that the caucuses are less democratic than primaries because they require people to physically attend the events in order to participate in the presidential nominating process in their state.

A number of state parties are already considering replacing their caucuses with primaries, with some state party chairs here predicting the 2020 nominating contest will feature many fewer caucuses than in 2016.

The DNC can’t force states to change their rules but the reform package includes measures to encourage states to open their primaries and caucuses to independent voters, as well as to expand same-day voter registration in order to bring new voters.

Saturday’s vote was the conclusion of a lengthy process that began just before the 2016 Democratic National Convention, coming out of the animosity of that year's presidential primary.

The party created the Unity Reform Commission to propose changes, which then led to 83 hours of discussion in the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, which then led to a vote by the party’s Executive Committee and then, finally, approval by the full DNC in Chicago.

“We’ve debated this ad nauseam,” said union president Lee Saunders of AFSCME, reflecting the fatigue of many in the room. “Our job as the Democratic Party is to get Democrats elected, so let’s start that right now.”

Nearly every DNC member is a superdelegate, so some were not eager to give up their power.

Defenders of the status quo headed into the meeting knowing they were outnumbered, but determined to fight. However, after a procedural vote that went overwhelmingly in Perez’ favor, they saw the writing on the wall.

In a dramatic moment, Don Fowler, a former DNC chair who has been leading the resistance to the superdelegate change, stood to essentially concede and call for a swift approval of the changes by acclimation, rather than a full vote by paper ballots.

That was met with a standing ovation from delegates, many of whom were eyeing the clock as they hoped to catch flights later in the afternoon.

“I was skeptical of this proposal, but I’m a team player, and the most important thing we can do is elect Democrats this fall and in 2020,” said William Owens, a DNC member from Tennessee, choking back tears. “I’m trying to say this without crying.”

The debate was passionate and personal on both sides, provoking a hunger strike, invocations of the Bible and JFK, and some hurt feelings.

But in an interview with NBC News, Perez said he'd much rather have passion than apathy.

He compared the fight to a healthy "family" discussion, and said he was pleased the party ultimately decided to take a "leap of faith" to show that it trusts its grassroots and its voters.

In particular, he hoped young people, many of whom have been registering as independents instead of Democrats, will "look at what we did today and say, wow, the party is listening to me."

Some of the strongest opposition to the change came from black delegates, especially in the older generation, who said it would “disenfranchise” African-American and Latino party leaders and make their convention less diverse.

“Are you telling me that I’m going to go to a convention, after my 30 years of blood, sweat, and tears for this party, that you’re going to take away my right to appease a group of people?” said DNC Vice Chair Karen Carter Peterson, a black Louisiana State Senator, presumably referring to white Sanders supporters.

Proponents of the change dispute that charge, noting state parties will still include diversity requirements in their delegate selection rules, and that superdelegates can still endorse and advocate for candidates.

The changes are the most consequential reforms to the party’s nominating process since the 1980s, when it created superdelegates. Republican have no equivalent to superdelegates in their party.

Meanwhile in Chicago, the three finalist cities to host the 2020 Democratic National Convention tried to woo DNC members with food, drink and celebrity guests.

Miami’s host committee threw a party on a boat that included free flip flops and beach towels, Houston decked the halls of the Hyatt Regency with advertisements, and Milwaukee brought in basketball legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to work a rope line as delegates munched on cheese curds and sipped the wares of the city's famous breweries.

[Red_Army]

This is good. Hopefully the Democrat Party machine can be wrested from the suits by a coalition of people that have balls and actual policy positions.

[Albert]

This is good. Hopefully the Democrat Party machine can be wrested from the suits by a coalition of people that have balls and actual policy positions.

Impossible, will not happen. The establishment will win.

[Red_Army]

@Albert Not impossible. Trump definitely showed that the party establishments are vulnerable. It will be awesome if the left can mimic this and then actually be different with regard to policy.

[Albert]

Yes, but you JWSs are not as capable as Trump.

[Rich]

@Albert Not impossible.

Trump was the establishment candidate par excellence. It was just that he was the Democratic party's establishment choice for the Republican party. Part of the plan to stitch up the Democratic Party primary early was so Clinton loyalists could cross primary and vote for Trump. Something similar happened in Britain in 2015 with Tories registering as Labour supporters, so they could vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

[Red_Army]

@Rich do you remember the 2016 election? Trump has definitely become an establishment president, but he was hated by the establishment as a candidate.

[Rich]

@Red_Army Trump's job was to play spoiler, to taint the Republican party as racist, bigoted, demented. It was hoped that he would drag the Republican primary further to the right. He was never meant to win the primary, let alone the Presidency. The Liberal media did their best to foster the growth of his candidacy.

When Donald Trump had the audacity to make the most mild and reasonable criticism of Muslims, he completly cut lose from the establishment. He went rogue. He was off the reservation.

[Sivad]

California DNC Member Suggests Superdelegate Reform Is Part Of Russian Plot

Mulholland, a DNC member and longtime key player in California Democratic politics, sent an email Friday to other DNC members from the Golden State that implied Russian President Vladimir Putin might be behind the reform effort.

The basis for his claim? An activist from West Virginia promoting the changes, who he had seen at two national party gatherings, admitted to him that she was a Green Party member and had voted for its nominee, Jill Stein, in the 2016 election.

“I concluded someone is picking up her expenses but there she and others are, demanding we change our Rules,” Mulholland wrote. “The Putin operation is still active.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bo ... 7a3d73e7bb

[AFAIK]

Do you think historians will end up referring to Putin as Putin The Powerful? He has even more power and control than that global Jewish conspiracy that keeps setting me up.

[Sivad]

Do you think historians will end up referring to Putin as Putin The Powerful? He has even more power and control than that global Jewish conspiracy that keeps setting me up.

The Russia shit started out extra fucktarded but now the fucktardery is so dense that it's likely to collapse into a black hole of infinite stupid and swallow the entire solar system.

[colliric]

....lol all it took was Hillary Clinton falling flat on her face... Literally.

As usual these "more democratic" changes will be eroded away by the establishment once they get back in(2024 at the earliest). These changes won't last.

[Sivad]

These changes won't last.

They'll last as long as the internet is free and open. If the establishment is unable to contain and control social media these democratic reforms will continue to expand and deepen.

[Sivad]