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blackjack21 wrote:I wonder if that's why they are so pissed off at Russian bots.

At any rate, even CNN is recognizing it now.

We shall see, but I think November is going to be humbling for the Democrats.

That is because the Trump of God is still sounding and winning. Praise the Lord.
#14951706
We can count two SCOTUS judges in two years. That's what Obama got in 8 years. If Trump wins in 2020, he will be the most influential force on the Supreme Court since Reagan, who joined Nixon, Truman and Eisenhower in shaping the court with 4 picks each. Trump has had a lasting impact and he's not quite half way through his first term. He's definitely going to be considered a great president.
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blackjack21 wrote:We can count two SCOTUS judges in two years. That's what Obama got in 8 years. If Trump wins in 2020, he will be the most influential force on the Supreme Court since Reagan, who joined Nixon, Truman and Eisenhower in shaping the court with 4 picks each. Trump has had a lasting impact and he's not quite half way through his first term. He's definitely going to be considered a great president.

Trump has accomplished much good for our country while under pressure of investigation and obstruction from the liberal Democrats and RINos. Just imagine how much more good he could have done with both Democrat and Republican cooperation.
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What we have to do now is persuade a majority of the people in the country, including [Trump’s] base, that he doesn’t have the temperament to be a leader. It’s easy to do that. Compared to Teddy Roosevelt, who has a square deal for the rich and the poor, the capitalist and the wage worker, Trump says that a deal that says both sides win is just a bunch of crap and all that matters is that you win and you crush your opponents.

I think you can just show people what leadership should look like and see that on most of those scales – humility, empathy, resilience self-reflection, growing in office, acknowledging errors, shouldering blame for other people – Trump just doesn’t measure up.
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jimjam wrote:It’s easy to do that. Compared to Teddy Roosevelt, who has a square deal for the rich and the poor, the capitalist and the wage worker, Trump says that a deal that says both sides win is just a bunch of crap and all that matters is that you win and you crush your opponents.

It's easy to say that. Convincing others is another question entirely. Unemployment is at 1969 levels. Trump's USMCA deal requires Mexico pay its auto parts workers $16 an hour. I said well before Trump did this--and he never campaigned on it--that he could stem the tide of labor arbitrage by calling for higher wages in low wage countries. Then, he would be loved in those countries too.

jimjam wrote:I think you can just show people what leadership should look like and see that on most of those scales – humility, empathy, resilience self-reflection, growing in office, acknowledging errors, shouldering blame for other people – Trump just doesn’t measure up.

It should look like leading people in a direction and them following. Hitler was a good leader. He had great leadership skills. He sucked at other things, like human rights, long-range military strategy, etc.

Trump is doing what he said he was going to do. So naturally, the people who voted for him are happy about that. As for me, he's got the establishment Republicans following him now. They resisted for so long, and now they had to follow his lead to get Kavanaugh through. They assented to his leadership.
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Stormsmith wrote:Socialism is more acceptable now.

What will it take for people like you to pick up your things and move to Venezuela or Cuba? Socialism isn't going to make it in the US. Kavanaugh will overturn it from the Supreme Court. :excited:
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blackjack21 wrote:Trump is doing what he said he was going to do. So naturally, the people who voted for him are happy about that. As for me, he's got the establishment Republicans following him now. They resisted for so long, and now they had to follow his lead to get Kavanaugh through. They assented to his leadership.

I hope the establishment Republicans will follow him enough to give him money to build the wall in the next budget.
#14951999
Hong Wu wrote:Let's be honest, Trump isn't going to get congressional support to build the wall unless he abuses the secure fencing act. Which he should totally do.


Why would he want to build the wall in the first place?

The Republicans are the party of big business, they need illegal immigration to keep profits high, to keep unions weak and to reduce the wages of the American worker. I am always amazed how naive people are about immigration. Conservatives have always been good at talking about reducing immigration (legal and illegal) but have never shown any interest in actually doing anything to reduce it.

You will still vote for them time and time again and give the same justification no matter how many terms the republicans serve while continuing to import as much surplus labour as is humanly possible. It is the same with all sorts of political issues (balanced budgets etc). Have you got alzheimers or something?
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Decky wrote:Why would he want to build the wall in the first place?


@$50 billion or so it would be the pork barrel project from heaven. All sorts of big money to pass back and forth between "friends".

If it ever comes to pass there would also be big money to be made in the human carrying balloon and tunnel digging business :lol:
#14952019
Decky wrote:Why would he want to build the wall in the first place?

Because he wants to keep his promise to those that voted for him. You are right about most of the Republicans, they never wanted to build a wall. But if enough people keep demanding it, they will be eventually forced to put the money for it in the budget.
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Decky wrote:The Republicans are the party of big business, they need illegal immigration to keep profits high, to keep unions weak and to reduce the wages of the American worker. I am always amazed how naive people are about immigration. Conservatives have always been good at talking about reducing immigration (legal and illegal) but have never shown any interest in actually doing anything to reduce it.


Then why is it that all the cities and townships that proclaimed to be "Sanctuaries for illegal immigrants" are all of them , without exception, liberal/democrat ?
It was a Democrat President that started the DACA programme to shield illegals from deportation.
The catch and release policy was also a joke.

Trump has moved decisively to deport illegal immigrants and the liberals are crying about that.
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I love how Trump tells it like it is. I'd like to say that the establishment can't take it but like I said, Trump is becoming the establishment. And how much do you think this whole experience has pushed Kavanaugh further to the right? He seemed like one of those guys who wouldn't take SJWs seriously but I have a feeling that's changed.
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Hindsite wrote:That is because the Trump of God is still sounding and winning. Praise the Lord


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I have to wonder how the human brain evolves into this. I find this phenomenon fascinating. There are many historic examples, Nazi Germany being one of the most poignant. I guess you have to be born into a cultural environment where this shit it pounded into your brain from age zero and spreads to others like a virus. Then folks sit around validating each other and nodding in the affirmative. A foundation of extreme insecurity and poor powers of logic/thinking seem to be required. That essential driver of most religions, a fear of death, seems to also help. I guess it is reassuring to let a stronger personality gain control of your brain and do all the heavy lifting for you.
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jimjam wrote:There are many historic examples, Nazi Germany being one of the most poignant.

Well, Nazi Germany was an example of the globalists (the French and British Empires) attacking Germany due to fear of the rise of a global competitor. The French and British economies were moribund at that point, based more on steam power than more modern combustion engines. The spread of railroads had petered out as a major economic driver. Yet, Germany was growing as an economic competitor, so the great powers of the time unfairly maligned Germany for WWI and forced reparations on them for a war they didn't start.

So it is not unseemly that someone would come along and fight back against them and gain power.

This is being seen all over the globe, because the globalists are trying to make the entire world like New York City. It is backfiring almost everywhere. For example, Brazil's leading presidential candidate is a Trump-like character. The AfD in Germany is gaining steam. Eastern European states are refusing the immigration mess that the West finds itself in. We do not see the kinds of social problems in Poland, Czech, Hungary, etc. that we see in Germany, France, the UK and Italy among others. This is happening when the economy is NOT on its knees. If the rate increases continue and we enter an economic crunch, the electorates will be inclined to support even more hardline candidates.

jimjam wrote:A foundation of extreme insecurity and poor powers of logic/thinking seem to be required.

This suggests that people voted for Hitler because they were stupid. On the contrary, all the evidence pointed to foreign powers fucking over the German people. Who was in Germany helping that process along? A lot of Jewish pols and pundits. Who was behind the Kavanaugh circus? Schumer, Feinstein, Blumenthal, Katz, Swetnick, etc. Who was behind the Russia-gate conspiracy? Schumer, Rosenstein, Strzok, Page, etc. I for one think that what Hitler did to the Jews was terrible. However, they voted as a bloc somewhat like the way black Americans do. That does not make what Hitler did right, but it does make it understandable. People aiming for a global government need to get real about basic local problems--like they can barely control South Chicago. Trying to force a huge ethnic influx of people who do not support the basic social tenets of your society is likely to lead to a lot of problems. They know this, but they do it anyway.

jimjam wrote: I guess it is reassuring to let a stronger personality gain control of your brain and do all the heavy lifting for you.

Trump is liked because he fights against the globalists in his rhetoric. Tucker Carlson has looked at this from a larger perspective and sees a political re-alignment where the Democrats support the very rich and the very poor, and the Republicans support the working, middle and petit upper class. This makes the Democrats look much like the communist party and the Republicans look like a fascist party.

That's why I found the Democrats attacks on Kavanaugh as a privileged rich white male who lifts weights, plays football and drinks beer such a hilarious attack. Is it any wonder why Trump won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and even Wisconsin? I'm sitting here in liberal California and laughing.
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blackjack21 wrote:Well, Nazi Germany was an example of the globalists (the French and British Empires) attacking Germany due to fear of the rise of a global competitor. The French and British economies were moribund at that point, based more on steam power than more modern combustion engines. The spread of railroads had petered out as a major economic driver. Yet, Germany was growing as an economic competitor, so the great powers of the time unfairly maligned Germany for WWI and forced reparations on them for a war they didn't start.

So it is not unseemly that someone would come along and fight back against them and gain power.

This is being seen all over the globe, because the globalists are trying to make the entire world like New York City. It is backfiring almost everywhere. For example, Brazil's leading presidential candidate is a Trump-like character. The AfD in Germany is gaining steam. Eastern European states are refusing the immigration mess that the West finds itself in. We do not see the kinds of social problems in Poland, Czech, Hungary, etc. that we see in Germany, France, the UK and Italy among others. This is happening when the economy is NOT on its knees. If the rate increases continue and we enter an economic crunch, the electorates will be inclined to support even more hardline candidates.


This suggests that people voted for Hitler because they were stupid. On the contrary, all the evidence pointed to foreign powers fucking over the German people. Who was in Germany helping that process along? A lot of Jewish pols and pundits. Who was behind the Kavanaugh circus? Schumer, Feinstein, Blumenthal, Katz, Swetnick, etc. Who was behind the Russia-gate conspiracy? Schumer, Rosenstein, Strzok, Page, etc. I for one think that what Hitler did to the Jews was terrible. However, they voted as a bloc somewhat like the way black Americans do. That does not make what Hitler did right, but it does make it understandable. People aiming for a global government need to get real about basic local problems--like they can barely control South Chicago. Trying to force a huge ethnic influx of people who do not support the basic social tenets of your society is likely to lead to a lot of problems. They know this, but they do it anyway.


Trump is liked because he fights against the globalists in his rhetoric. Tucker Carlson has looked at this from a larger perspective and sees a political re-alignment where the Democrats support the very rich and the very poor, and the Republicans support the working, middle and petit upper class. This makes the Democrats look much like the communist party and the Republicans look like a fascist party.

That's why I found the Democrats attacks on Kavanaugh as a privileged rich white male who lifts weights, plays football and drinks beer such a hilarious attack. Is it any wonder why Trump won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and even Wisconsin? I'm sitting here in liberal California and laughing.

not even remotely close to what I was referring to.

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