[Verv]

She's polarizing because:

1) The GOP calls every Democrat a socialist, when one with actual leftist politics show up they freak the fuck out. They would rather use socialism as a bludgeon against left leaning centrists than deal with actual leftists.
2) She's a woman and is non-white. Reactionary ideology demands that her opinions be marginalized lest the discourse not be driven by white men.
3) She makes GOP men incredibly horny.

She was inspired to run because of Bernie and holds similar positions yet you see a fraction of the attention and hatred targeted at Bernie himself, who has an actual shot in the primaries. However, pundits are not angrily jerking it to Bernie.

(1) I think they pay attention to her because she is a convenient punching bag and provides all the right soundbytes to rally the Republican base.

(2) I understand that you think we're all Nazis, but you have to remember that the Republicans have been celebrating minority Republicans for as long as I've been alive. Indeed, they will give Allen Keyes a TV show that he bombs on because he is black, and we're all chomping on the bit to show you a picture of Jeb Bush next to his five foot tall Mexican peasant wife.

And I am not saying peasant here to be mean. She was literally a poor farm girl in 70s Mexico, and I say this as a monarchist sympathizer who loves peasants.

If anything, the mainstream GOP is jealous that we do not have a firy, young junior Latina Republican.

We need Wendy Zhu to get elected fast or something, right.

(3) If AOC makes you hot, my cousin owns some horses. I could put some lipstick on one of them for you and arrange a date.

... AOC puts herself in the spotlight and makes dumber statements than Sanders.

But you are right: we really should focus on Bernie more, but then we'd be accused of elder abuse.

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(2) I understand that you think we're all Nazis,

I don't believe, I know. Alt-right is just a rebranding of naziism, and a term created by an avowed nazi for that specific purpose.

but you have to remember that the Republicans have been celebrating minority Republicans for as long as I've been alive.

Yes, the GOP loves using whatever minority they can find to hide their racism. As you helpfully pointed out, the GOP base isn't interested in watching a black conservative's TV show, but reactionary funders are willing to burn money to create some slim, plausible deniability that the GOP isn't a party primarily concerned with advancing the views of angry white men.

Yeah, whatever. We know that you don't like Trump. But don't be that one sided. AOC has similarities when compared to Trump. (We are not talking about policies here.)

No, not really.

[Verv]

Allan Keyes' show failed because it was bad.

Who are some of the biggest figures in Conservatism, Inc.? Ben Shaprio (Jewish), Dennis Prager (Jewish), Andrew Klaven (Jewish), and David Horowitz (Jewish).

In Canada? Ezra Levant is Jewish. Tommy Robinson of the UK is also of Jewish descent, and Avi Yemeni in Australia is of Jewish descent. Australia's conservative talk show also has that lass of Iranian extraction frontloaded into their propaganda.

The idea that conservatism is dominated by closet Nazis is obviously silly, Bruh.

You really gotta want to believe that to think that way.

[Rugoz]

The Green New Deal is extreme, 10 years is too short of a time frame.

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Who are some of the biggest figures in Conservatism, Inc.? Ben Shaprio (Jewish), Dennis Prager (Jewish), Andrew Klaven (Jewish), and David Horowitz (Jewish).

Lol the first guy you cited, Shapiro, has been a prominent figure in inspiring multiple rightwing extremists.

And all of them are angry white men. I don't even know who the last two are but I know I'm correct.

Also your average anti-semite is perfectly fine with having Jews work for them. They consider their inherent sneakiness and evil intelligence to be good when it's used on their behalf. You'll find many prominent racists who boast about having Jewish lawyers or accountants.

You also just did exactly the thing I mentioned in my last post: Hid behind a minority to prove how open-minded you are. I presume all of them are pushing strong ethno-nationalist agendas, safe and secure in the knowledge that their position and wealth will ensure they do not suffer any consequences.

[Verv]

How did Ben Shapiro inspire multiple right wing terrorists? I am honestly interested in how your mind came to that conclusion.

You have frequently used thrown the words "Jews will not replace us" around in this forum and consider it as one of the most damning things to come out of Charlottesville... And now you want to call the bulk of the American right Alt Right Nazis (or howver you want to phrase it), but ignore the fact that a huge amount of their spokesmen and leaders are, in fact, Jews?

Moreoever, do you think that the Jews can really be called white when they have historically been the targets of white nationalist violence?

You have very little holding together your narrative, SO, and it's showing.

... But I guess this is how you justify it?

Also your average anti-semite is perfectly fine with having Jews work for them. They consider their inherent sneakiness and evil intelligence to be good when it's used on their behalf. You'll find many prominent racists who boast about having Jewish lawyers or accountants.

How many levels of conspiracy do you have to buy into to get to this point?

Enlighten me.

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How did Ben Shapiro inspire multiple right wing terrorists? I am honestly interested in how your mind came to that conclusion.

Because Ben Shapiro is part of the media sphere consumed by mass shooters. Like, this is a fact. People who go out and start shooting up public places tend to consume a lot of Ben Shapiro media, or media figures adjacent to Shapiro.

You have frequently used thrown the words "Jews will not replace us" around in this forum and consider it as one of the most damning things to come out of Charlottesville... And now you want to call the bulk of the American right Alt Right Nazis (or howver you want to phrase it), but ignore the fact that a huge amount of their spokesmen and leaders are, in fact, Jews?

Are you purposely doing the exact thing thing I described, whereby nationalists cite a few token minorities and claim that they can't be racist because of it? How are you so self-unaware?

Oh, I forgot, you identify as Alt-Reich. The most inclusive ideology to ever exist. Look! We have FOUR (4) Jews! We can't be racist or anti-semitic! They're just good people arguing that our way of life, our entire existence, is being undermined by powerful forces controlled by (((Soros)))! They're simply brushing up against the legal lines of advocating for violent reprisal against people who are clearly threats to our very existence!

Verv, if he were capable of arguing in good faith:

[Verv]

(1) So Ben Shapiro inspires terrorism along with the Alt Right. OK.

So, would you agree that we should also drastically limit mass migration from Islamic countries because of the correlation between Islam and terrorism?

(2) LOL neither Ben Shapiro nor myself are Alt Right.

You do not care in the least to keep your arguments straight and have simply begun sputtering your favorite talking points.

But thank you for letting me talk about the things I wanted to talk about for a while. I appreciate it. It was fun.

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I think she is doing a good job of shaking up the establishment Democrats.

I agree wholeheartedly.

She is not dumb in the least.

Killing the Amazon HQ wasn't exactly a stroke of genius. She just bought the leftist line on the tax breaks that it was in fact a subsidy. She doesn't really understand policy too well. She's only 29, so we should be a little understanding, but there's also a reason why we don't have a lot of 29 year olds in Congress.

The ones wrong are the ones who think Trump is the solution to destroying that rotten establishment. He is basically establishment with a different style.

He's not. There are people in bureaucracies in Washington who think that everyone should behave like George Will or David Gergen, and that represents some sort of "maturity" that transcends policy. Voters have had enough of it. Trump is turning those people's lives upside down.

1) Welfare state grows by increasing wages for the workers.

Sure. However, the Western countries have systematically undermined wage growth for workers. So the antipathy of working class voters for the establishment should be easy to understand. Additionally, the model for the welfare state was pay-as-you go and a growing population. Population growth is slower in the US, but offset by immigration. In Europe, it is shrinking and one of the problems is that non-assimilating immigrants have an outsize impact on the culture. The other is that the tax burden for the welfare state increases as the share of workers to benefit recipients disfavors workers.

(1) I think they pay attention to her because she is a convenient punching bag and provides all the right soundbytes to rally the Republican base.

She also unseated a high ranking Democrat who was in line for a leadership position. Her victory was totally unexpected.

As you helpfully pointed out, the GOP base isn't interested in watching a black conservative's TV show, but reactionary funders are willing to burn money to create some slim, plausible deniability that the GOP isn't a party primarily concerned with advancing the views of angry white men.

That sort of thing doesn't appeal to Mitt Romney--who lost a totally winnable race for president. However, Trump was able to get angry white men to cross party lines and vote for him. That's going to happen in a big way in 2020.

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Verv's defense of the Alt-Reich, the most diverse political group to ever exist:

So, would you agree that we should also drastically limit mass migration from Islamic countries because of the correlation between Islam and terrorism?

No, because white people are the leading cause of terror. The degenerate white race is the true threat, and a significant portion of them share the same beliefs as the fundamentalist Islamic boogeyman they project their own faults on to. Projection is a huge part of reactionary thought, moreso for the people of mayo.

(2) LOL neither Ben Shapiro nor myself are Alt Right.

Lastly, yeah, I am a reactionary and not a classical liberal while being a nationalist and a conservative so... Sure, I am Alt Right, more or less

[Note: This is in a thread where you were explicitly defending a nazi murderer lol.]

It's nice of you to go out of your own way to prove yourself an unreliable source, but also very funny that in this specific case the subject is yourself.

[Verv]

No, because white people are the leading cause of terror. The degenerate white race is the true threat, and a significant portion of them share the same beliefs as the fundamentalist Islamic boogeyman they project their own faults on to. Projection is a huge part of reactionary thought, moreso for the people of mayo.

I wonder which race would look like it was the most degenerate in terms of the overall violent impact on society and the overall threat to public safety.

Should we crunch some numbers, Spesh?

We could also make terrorism a completely separate category and, you know, we would have to do that thing where we looked at it in terms of per capita impact. What do you think the results would be for Muslims as compared to the majority white population, Spesh?

It's nice of you to go out of your own way to prove yourself an unreliable source, but also very funny that in this specific case the subject is yourself.

It could be said that, in the purest, big tent meaning of the word, I am Alt Right. But as the word has largely evolved to mean a specific cross section of people, specifically the TRS and Andrew Anglin style guys, I definitely do not fit into that.

I would probably be closest, in this case, to the Traditionalists of Twitter or Frog Twitter.

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I wonder which race would look like it was the most degenerate in terms of the overall violent impact on society and the overall threat to public safety.

Should we crunch some numbers, Spesh?

Lol yes, because white supremacists ARE the leading cause of domestic terror and have been for years:

"I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence," [Director of the FBI Christopher] Wray told lawmakers.

It's time to address white criminality.

I am Alt Right.

Yes, we know, it was quite obvious.

[blackjack21]

It's time to address white criminality.

It is. We're starting with the deep state.

[Verv]

Oh, OK, when you said:

No, because white people are the leading cause of terror. The degenerate white race is the true threat, and a significant portion of them share the same beliefs as the fundamentalist Islamic boogeyman they project their own faults on to. Projection is a huge part of reactionary thought, moreso for the people of mayo.

it sounded like you were implying that whites, as a whole, have degenerated into some primitive, violent form.

I am curious, though, does this bear out in other areas?

For instnace, what conclusions could we come to for black Americans? For isntance, white Americans are soemthing like 70% of the US population, and 5,125 whites murdered people in 2017, but it says here that black Americans, which constitute less than 13% of the population, actually had 6,444 of their kind be arrested for muder in 2017? [1] What do those sorts of numbers say, Spesh? What kind of cocnlusions would you draw from that?

It would seem that white Americans are, relatively speaking, not more inclined to commit violent acts.

[1] FBI Crime Stats 2017

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@Verv

Do you think young people or older people are more likely to commit violent crimes?

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it sounded like you were implying that whites, as a whole, have degenerated into some primitive, violent form.

Incorrect. They are degenerate; they did not devolve from a higher life form.

For instnace, what conclusions could we come to for black Americans? For isntance, white Americans are soemthing like 70% of the US population, and 5,125 whites murdered people in 2017, but it says here that black Americans, which constitute less than 13% of the population, actually had 6,444 of their kind be arrested for muder in 2017? [1] What do those sorts of numbers say, Spesh? What kind of cocnlusions would you draw from that?

Hmm. Why do black people, who were enslaved for centuries and continue to be oppressed under the system made by white people, not do as well as white people in a system rigged to benefit whites and oppress everyone else?

I fault the white man for his choice to purposely create an inequitable society. Despite having unlimited power and resources within the system they created, they chose to create inequity so that they could live the lamest, most white bread fantasy imaginable.

White people's brains are smooth, the ridges so filled with mayonnaise that they can not conceive of a better world. They don't need things like universal healthcare, or worker's rights, or any of the things that would actually make their lives better. No, instead, they will accept a children's fairytale telling them that no matter how shit their lives are, someone non-white is worse off.

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

That's the society white people envision, and it is pathetic. And this is why we need white genocide.

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Why do black people, who were enslaved for centuries and continue to be oppressed under the system made by white people, not do as well as white people in a system rigged to benefit whites and oppress everyone else?

Because the Democrats keep oppressing blacks. Not to worry. Trump is doing more for blacks that Obama did.

Trump Given The ‘Bipartisan Justice Award’ By Black Organization For ‘First Step Act’

So what do you say about half white people like Obama? Is Donovan McNabb Irish or black?

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Because the Democrats keep oppressing blacks.

Dude. I don't give a shit about your boring Boomer reactions to shit you see on YouTube from pathetic grifters who say things you want to hear.

You listen to the dumbest people, like Mark Dice. They are the lowest of the low on the YouTube hierarchy and are just looking for angry white men like you who are lonely enough to listen to them. They will say anything, even things you want to believe, for clicks.

I don't care, and I don't read your posts.

[blackjack21]

You listen to the dumbest people, like Mark Dice.

He makes fun of the establishment. It's very entertaining.

They are the lowest of the low on the YouTube hierarchy and are just looking for angry white men like you who are lonely enough to listen to them.

Maybe the lowest of the low when it comes to denominators--meaning they have big audiences. People like him compete head to head with CNN for viewers. From his kitchen table...

However, it seems like you are very angry. Are you a white man today? Or black? Is that rage from your white DNA?

How do you propose to solve questions like Meagan Markle?



Is she black or white? Would she be exterminated by your anti-white policy? Or would you take pity, because she has some African ancestry as well?

I don't care, and I don't read ...

Apathy and ignorance go hand in hand...

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He makes fun of the establishment. It's very entertaining.


Maybe the lowest of the low when it comes to denominators--meaning they have big audiences. People like him compete head to head with CNN for viewers. From his kitchen table...

However, it seems like you are very angry. Are you a white man today? Or black? Is that rage from your white DNA?

How do you propose to solve questions like Meagan Markle?



Is she black or white? Would she be exterminated by your anti-white policy? Or would you take pity, because she has some African ancestry as well?


Apathy and ignorance go hand in hand...

Hey, Meagan Markle looks like your average Puerto Rican girl to me. Lol.

What is your issue?

Lol.

I think mulattas and mulattos are good looking people.

Leave the good looking people of the world alone Relampaguito!

Puerto Rico produces some good looking women politicians from the Left and the independentista tendency. Like Alexandra Lugaro. Though she says stuff that is not acceptable she is hitting some fairly big numbers.

Here is Alexandra giving a speech there debating:

She doesn't like Trump for sure....lol.