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late wrote:Wrong question.

This is about White guys losing their dominance and having to play nice, like everybody else.


What do you expect? When in Rome as do as the Romans. Which culture and economic system do you want for America?

BTW, I am from Latin America and the last thing i want to do is bring South American style politics to North America.

Please answer the question truthfully. Would you volunteer to be a minority? You know quite well in group preference is unavoidable. We evolved in tribes.

Are you implying that another dominant group would not demonstrate in group preference?
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#15051000
late wrote:Wrong question.

This is about White guys losing their dominance and having to play nice, like everybody else.

Like the Chinese, the Burmese, the Shona, the Japanese, just about every Muslim country on the planet? You actually mean become voluntary Cucks like no one else.

I'm woke! I'm woke to Cultural Marxist propaganda. I watch the BBC a quite a bit. Its a relentless stream of move or less overt anti White, anti Christian, anti Protestant, anti British, anti English anti White men, anti Gentile, anti White heterosexual men messages. I see something similar from Hollywood, although their priorities are somewhat different. I don't doubt its the same continual drip feed of subliminal, although sometimes not even subliminal hate.

I was particularly struck by a series on Guy Fawkes. Now anyone who's honest and knows a bit of history knows that the Protestants were the rough diamond good guys in this conflict and the Papists were the evil doers, who didn't even want to let the common people read the Bible in their own language. But this programme starts off with a Catholic suffering a gruesome torture as if the Papists were some how the victims of this struggle. Later the scene moves to Spain and we see another torture scene, oh so at least we get a bit of balance. How stupid of me. Of course the Spanish were torturing a Jew.
#15051019
Julian658 wrote:Why would anyone voluntarily choose to be an oppressed minority? Would you volunteer for that? Yes or no?


I hever asked about being an oppressed minority.

I asked why you are so worried about being a plurality.

Do you think any group that is not the majority is oppressed?

I would gladly do that if I am an immigrant.


But you think it is oppression if white people have to do it.

Yes, speaking in one's native tongue is easier. :knife: :knife: :knife:


I doubt you have the required experience to know that.

No one wants to be in the minority. Most people want to be in the majority.


So you agree that minorities would not want to be minorities. So, why should they stay minorities?
#15051026
Pants-of-dog wrote:I hever asked about being an oppressed minority.

I asked why you are so worried about being a plurality.

Do you think any group that is not the majority is oppressed?



But you think it is oppression if white people have to do it.



I doubt you have the required experience to know that.



So you agree that minorities would not want to be minorities. So, why should they stay minorities?


POD, stop writing tongue in cheek silly platitudes.

In any society the minority will feel oppressed (whether they are oppressed or not). The only exceptions are those that integrate into the majority culture.

Now write something meaningful rather than silly one liners.
#15051028
Pants-of-dog wrote:So you agree that minorities would not want to be minorities. So, why should they stay minorities?

Minorities in the West use the "non minority" politics out of manipulation to steal the labour of the nations they are residing in.
#15051037
Julian658 wrote:POD, stop writing tongue in cheek silly platitudes.

In any society the minority will feel oppressed (whether they are oppressed or not). The only exceptions are those that integrate into the majority culture.

Now write something meaningful rather than silly one liners.


You seem to be getting emotional.

Anyway, I originally asked you why people are so worried about immigration.

Your answer seems to be that white people will feel oppressed if they are not the majority.

In that case, the argument against immigration is that it hurts the feelings of white people.
#15051041
Rich wrote:
Like the Chinese, the Burmese, the Shona, the Japanese, just about every Muslim country on the planet? You actually mean become voluntary Cucks like no one else.



No, like the other Americans.

You need to escape your little fantasy world.
#15051042
Pants-of-dog wrote:You seem to be getting emotional.

Anyway, I originally asked you why people are so worried about immigration.

Your answer seems to be that white people will feel oppressed if they are not the majority.

In that case, the argument against immigration is that it hurts the feelings of white people.


OK, that is better. But, there is more. Locals cannot compete with an immigrant that will work for much lower wages. Taxes will go up to provide services for the immigrants. The Dems want immigrants because they hope these will be lifetime left wingers.

Immigration is always needed, but an open door police does not work.
#15051044
Julian658 wrote:
Are you implying that another dominant group would not demonstrate in group preference?



We are not going to have a majority group. Which means, unless White crazies finish what they started, which is killing democracy, there will be no dominant group.
#15051048
Julian658 wrote:Taxes will go up to provide services for the immigrants.

The workers will have two sources of income in that capitalist economy - Welfare, and Wages.

Two sources of income is better than one because the workers are not reliant completely on their wages. If there is no services, there is no economic safety net.

That enforces the family institution since people will be stuck with their families and use family as an economic safety net rather than nationalized economic services such as welfare.

That is not an issue. That is actually a better solution in a capitalist economy, since the economics would be more socialized.

The issue of Third World migration is that they have lower labour standards, have higher crime rates due to higher rates of testosterone and being more socially dramatic and emotional, and will use "anti migrant" politics to manipulate people into feeling sympathetic for them so they can provide more wealth to them.

There are Arab, Russian, African, and Indian migrants who have a lot of material wealth, and they obtain that because those who produce that wealth (Mercedes Benz is not Russian, it is Deutsch) have to give that wealth to them because the Arab, Russian, African, or Indian migrants are manipulating others to feel sympathetic for them. The migrants have expensive drugs, expensive material items, travel a lot, have expensive food, and get involved in high priced sex slavery and prostitution.
#15051050
Julian658 wrote:OK, that is better. But, there is more. Locals cannot compete with an immigrant that will work for much lower wages.


So, when capitalism works the way it is supposed to work, you want an unfair advantage and want the state to restrict immigrants so that you can get a wahe higher than the market has determined?

For a right wing libertarian, you seem very statist.

Taxes will go up to provide services for the immigrants.


No.

And to prove it, I will predict that you will not support this claim with evidence.

The Dems want immigrants because they hope these will be lifetime left wingers.


So not all white people are worried about immigration. Just those who feel threatened by it, like Republicans.
#15051051
Pants-of-dog wrote:So not all white people are worried about immigration. Just those who feel threatened by it, like Republicans.

I am against Third World migration from nations like India, Somalia, Russia, Ukraine, Albania, or Syria. They have different labour standards than nations like Sweden or Danmark. They also have higher testosterone, which makes them more socially abusive, cruel, and brutal.

A purely global socialist economy cannot work unless if everyone is the same. Different people have different standards.
#15051086
Pants-of-dog wrote:So, when capitalism works the way it is supposed to work, you want an unfair advantage and want the state to restrict immigrants so that you can get a wahe higher than the market has determined?

For a right wing libertarian, you seem very statist.


Ah, finally you may good points POD. From a capitalist point of view the competition of imported cheap labor with the pricey local labor drives costs down for the industry and we the consumers benefit. For example in my neck of the woods most of the people working in construction are Hispanics. Many that started as laborers years ago have now gone independent and as a general rule outbid anglo contractors. My wife has not hired an anglo contractor in years. The Hispanic guys always come in with a better price. So this is a bonanza for the consumer.

BTW, I am in a profession where competition form immigrants is not an issue. Nevertheless, I have sympathy for those that lose work of have to work for much less.

So not all white people are worried about immigration. Just those who feel threatened by it, like Republicans.


The elite do not care about immigration. They will never lose a job to them.

Many white people feel threatened when they become the minority.. As I said before ChinaTown is cute and a great place to visit in many cities. However, if the entire city becomes Chinese then the locas are displaced. Is that so hard to understand? Are you able to see through a different lens other than racism?

As for Republicans: Immigration is just a talking point to get votes from the blue collar displaced white workers that are displaced by migrant workers.

It is not rocket science Tovarish.
#15051088
late wrote:We are not going to have a majority group. Which means, unless White crazies finish what they started, which is killing democracy, there will be no dominant group.


Europeans have a very low fertility rate. Eventually they will be a tiny minority. They may even become extinct and that will be the end of Western Civilization. The islamists will invade Europe and destroyed all medieval Christian Churches. There will be no residue of the West.
#15051090
Julian658 wrote:
Europeans have a very low fertility rate. Eventually they will be a tiny minority. They may even become extinct and that will be the end of Western Civilization. The islamists will invade Europe and destroyed all medieval Christian Churches. There will be no residue of the West.



So your motto is panic now.

Do you have any idea how silly that is?
#15051093
Julian658 wrote:Europeans have a very low fertility rate. Eventually they will be a tiny minority. They may even become extinct and that will be the end of Western Civilization. The islamists will invade Europe and destroyed all medieval Christian Churches. There will be no residue of the West.

This is true and it is happening everywhere in the West. In Deutschland, there are Arabs, Indians, Albanians, Yugoslavs, Russians, Turks, and Gypsies. In France, there are Arabs, Africans, and Indians. In Britain, racially white people are getting less common. Belgium and the Netherlands are having these issues. Italy has a lot of Arab, Albanian, and Yugoslav migrants.

White people have established Western society. Once White people are a minority, this will end Western civilization, since White people have established Western society. White people may even be extinct. Examples of Berlin, Amsterdam, Paris, London, and Brussels show that racially White people are less common. Those exampled cities are capitals of their states. Those states once had global empires and globalized the world.

Islam is conquesting Europe in two ways: Islamic migration, and Liberal support. There are a lot of Islamic migrants in Deutschland, Italy, Sweden, Britain, France, Belgium, and Norway. This is increasing domestic terrorism. The Paris shooting of 2015, the Brussels shooting of 2016, and the 2017 London Bridge attack are some examples of Islamic conquest. Liberal support is labeling anyone who resists the reactionary conquest of Islam an "Islamophobe." Liberals are using "anti racist" politics to defend reactionary Islamic conquest.
#15051095
Julian658 wrote:Ah, finally you may good points POD. From a capitalist point of view the competition of imported cheap labor with the pricey local labor drives costs down for the industry and we the consumers benefit. For example in my neck of the woods most of the people working in construction are Hispanics. Many that started as laborers years ago have now gone independent and as a general rule outbid anglo contractors. My wife has not hired an anglo contractor in years. The Hispanic guys always come in with a better price. So this is a bonanza for the consumer.

BTW, I am in a profession where competition form immigrants is not an issue. Nevertheless, I have sympathy for those that lose work of have to work for much less.


So you directly benefit from this difference in price , and yet you pretend this is a bad thing?

The elite do not care about immigration. They will never lose a job to them.

Many white people feel threatened when they become the minority.. As I said before ChinaTown is cute and a great place to visit in many cities. However, if the entire city becomes Chinese then the locas are displaced. Is that so hard to understand? Are you able to see through a different lens other than racism?

As for Republicans: Immigration is just a talking point to get votes from the blue collar displaced white workers that are displaced by migrant workers.

It is not rocket science Tovarish.


So you actually have no good reason to worry about immigration or being a minority.
#15051097
Pants-of-dog wrote:So you actually have no good reason to worry about immigration or being a minority.

You have no good reason to support Third World migration to the west. You have no good reason to support racially White people being a minority.
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