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Finfinder wrote:
can you repost in English please?



I'll do one.

Back in the real world, you have to be able to show a juror did not fulfill their oath. There is no evidence of that. One of the other jurors has come forward to say nothing was wrong.

The Republican tactic these days is to excuse everything they do, and pretend they have evidence of criminality wherever they can find an excuse to make that accusation...

The judge reviewed the situation, and also found nothing wrong.

Face it, Stone is guilty as hell.

The ONLY reason we are having this conversation is because Trump is afraid of what Stone could say if he decided to talk.
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late wrote:I'll do one.

Back in the real world, you have to be able to show a juror did not fulfill their oath. There is no evidence of that. One of the other jurors has come forward to say nothing was wrong.

The Republican tactic these days is to excuse everything they do, and pretend they have evidence of criminality wherever they can find an excuse to make that accusation...

The judge reviewed the situation, and also found nothing wrong.

Face it, Stone is guilty as hell.

The ONLY reason we are having this conversation is because Trump is afraid of what Stone could say if he decided to talk.




The main point of your argument was the sentence, weather the entire prosecution was legitimate is another discussion. When you look at the sentence as compare to other crimes and similar crimes your support for it (9years ) because of Stones political leaning is scary. The national average of time served for rape is 4 to 5 years.

The rest is fiction until you offer proof.
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Finfinder wrote:
The main point of your argument was the sentence, weather the entire prosecution was legitimate is another discussion. When you look at the sentence as compare to other crimes and similar crimes your support for it (9years ) because of Stones political leaning is scary. The national average of time served for rape is 4 to 5 years.

The rest is fiction until you offer proof.





I already supported my assertion. The prosecutors expected trouble. So they worked up a 36 page memorandum that took you step by step through how the sentencing guidelines applied to this case.

They also did not say 9 years. The new policy of the department is to seek maximum punishment, but they did not do that. They suggested to the judge the range of punishment laid out in the guideline.

You're not just babbling here, you're repeating the same nonsense.
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late wrote:Until this moment, Republicans were praising her because she had earlier ruled against Bill Clinton.

She bent over backwards trying to be fair. Stone posted a pic of her with crosshairs. A lot of judges would revoke bail over that, and that's not the only time he acted badly.

What is hideous about your comments is that justice is supposed to be executed "without fear or favor". IOW, not political, and this crisis screams political.

Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax TV: 'Stone Should Get New Trial'

"I think that Stone should get a new trial," Dershowitz told Thursday's "Greg Kelly Reports." "We've now discovered that one of the jurors on the case, the foreperson on the jury, had very, very strong views – not only against Trump but in favor of [special counsel Robert] Mueller and the Mueller investigation.

"Apparently, those views were not disclosed."

These revelations might ultimately render the current Washington, D.C., controversy over the hard sentence recommendations moot, Dershowitz told host Greg Kelly.

"They might very well result in a new trial, muting the whole issue of sentencing, but that we'll have to wait and see," he concluded.

"It seemed like a vindictive recommendation," Dershowitz admitted of the initial 7-9 years in prison recommended for Stone, a first-time offender who is of advanced age, on the charges of lying to Congress, among others.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rogers ... id/954053/
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Roger Stone has been sentenced to 40 months in prison for lying to a Congressional investigation of Russiagate and threatening a witness, Randy Credico. Stone falsely claimed to have a secret backchannel to Wikileaks, and that Credico was his source. Stone then tried to intimidate Credico into not contradicting his falsehoods. In an exclusive interview with Pushback, Randy Credico responds to the Stone sentencing and tells the real story of what happened.
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