[Finfinder]

I haven't been talking about your dipshit election, for one thing. It's also irrelevant to the discussion but it's simply the only "argument" you can make, isn't it?

How am I meddling in your election?

If you can't post an argument, just ignore me, please. I know where I live, and my opinion is as valid as yours is. You do not, however, have an argument that is worth a shit.

That is your opinion. I totally can and have posted an argument and just like I predicted you refuse to accept it. Last I checked I'm allowed to post my opinion. Its my opinion from reading your posts which are here for public consumption are anti American and incorrect. Last I check I can post that. With all due respect sir. Likewise you don't have to respond to my posts.

How are you meddling ? How is what you are doing much different that some Facebook adds and comments the Russians placed:? The left has establish a very low standard for meddling apparently.

I see you added "grow up" so what does that mean? is that an argument or personall attack what is that

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How are you meddling ? How is what you are doing much different that some Facebook adds and comments the Russians placed?

It's entirely different.

Frankly, your comment is hilariously wrong. Putin spent millions doing sophisticated social media manipulation. He also had teams of propagandists feeding you the crap you spewed here.

"Still, Russia’s use of strategic propaganda is part of a decades-old playbook. What is new is how cleanly, simply and effectively it was able to distribute false information, manipulate mainstream media and amplify existing divisions using social media platforms. However, 2016 was not the first election in which social media played a role — so what changed? Why were Russian operatives able to amplify their message so clearly? And what does that mean for the 2020 election?

“They would create campaigns on different platforms and target different subgroups using the data-targeting capabilities of those platforms,”

At the same time, Russian military intelligence (GRU) pushed propaganda into the media landscape through what researchers refer to as narrative laundering. They planted the seed of a story, attempting to have it picked up and distributed by larger and larger media outlets. They would promote these stories through fake personas on social media, made-up think tanks and alternative news outlets.

The GRU also used a “hack and leak” strategy, whereby Russian operatives would hack entities such as the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to leak the information to organizations such as WikiLeaks

Russian operatives weaponized social media, using services and techniques that were designed by technology companies for advertisers. They co-opted traditional media by sharing hacked information and spreading sensationalized stories through fake online personas. They updated long-standing propaganda tactics with inauthentic behavior on social media and in traditional media to reach voters in the digital era.

These actions will continue by Russia and others — including possible domestic actors — for the foreseeable future."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/18/how-russia-weaponized-social-media-got-caught-escaped-consequences/

[Drlee]

@Julian658 The Dems were hoping for some patients to die because there were no ventilators. Now NYC has enough ventilators, Dems not happy.

Back to this point so that we can see the results of these little shit bombs and, in the process, actually give people some information.

As it turns out, one of the lessons that doctors are learning about CV is that the death rate on ventilators is very high compared to other respiratory viruses like influenza. The death rate on ventilators is as high as 80% in NYC. In my own area it is very high as well. It is becoming clearer every day that it is best to keep people off of ventilators when possible. This is always a good idea but particularly important in the case of CV. So the fact that NYC has enough respirators is not so much to do with supply but rather that they are not helping patients as much as one would guess. There are other things that can be tried first. Inhaled nitric oxide is showing promise. IT has been known to be useful in SARS for a long time.

Just for the record. Ventilators are never to be used lightly. They are very invasive and frequently cause lung damage. They are not a panacea but a last ditch effort.

[Finfinder]

It's entirely different.

Frankly, your comment is hilariously wrong. Putin spent millions doing sophisticated social media manipulation. He also had teams of propagandists feeding you the crap you spewed here.

"Still, Russia’s use of strategic propaganda is part of a decades-old playbook. What is new is how cleanly, simply and effectively it was able to distribute false information, manipulate mainstream media and amplify existing divisions using social media platforms. However, 2016 was not the first election in which social media played a role — so what changed? Why were Russian operatives able to amplify their message so clearly? And what does that mean for the 2020 election?

“They would create campaigns on different platforms and target different subgroups using the data-targeting capabilities of those platforms,”

At the same time, Russian military intelligence (GRU) pushed propaganda into the media landscape through what researchers refer to as narrative laundering. They planted the seed of a story, attempting to have it picked up and distributed by larger and larger media outlets. They would promote these stories through fake personas on social media, made-up think tanks and alternative news outlets.

The GRU also used a “hack and leak” strategy, whereby Russian operatives would hack entities such as the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to leak the information to organizations such as WikiLeaks

Russian operatives weaponized social media, using services and techniques that were designed by technology companies for advertisers. They co-opted traditional media by sharing hacked information and spreading sensationalized stories through fake online personas. They updated long-standing propaganda tactics with inauthentic behavior on social media and in traditional media to reach voters in the digital era.

These actions will continue by Russia and others — including possible domestic actors — for the foreseeable future."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/18/how-russia-weaponized-social-media-got-caught-escaped-consequences/

Yea and the partisan Democrats spent over 40 million on the fake Russian hoax and Mueller report and all we found out was Robert Mueller might be more senile that Joe Biden.

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Yea and the partisan Democrats spent over 40 million on the fake Russian hoax and Mueller report and all we found out was Robert Mueller might be more senile that Joe Biden.

Still stuck in denial? There's a thousand *facts*, but my fave was the time Putin screwed up and paid Fusion GPS in rubles.

It's always Moscow Rules with you, comrade.

[Drlee]

Yea and the partisan Democrats spent over 40 million on the fake Russian hoax and Mueller report and all we found out was Robert Mueller might be more senile that Joe Biden.

I am sure Putin is very happy with your acting as a propaganda agent for him. Is it deliberate or did you just not bother to read the Mueller report? When you rely only on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh it is easy to be duped.

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Is it deliberate or did you just not bother to read the Mueller report?

Both.

[Finfinder]

Still stuck in denial? There's a thousand *facts*, but my fave was the time Putin screwed up and paid Fusion GPS in rubles.

It's always Moscow Rules with you, comrade.

Not at all, the guy I voted for keeps picking federal judges that will follow the constitution and looks good that he is going to continue to do that for the next four years.



It's funny I just realized something. You actually have convinced yourself that politically, you argue from a position of power. That's is so cute.

I am sure Putin is very happy with your acting as a propaganda agent for him. Is it deliberate or did you just not bother to read the Mueller report? When you rely only on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh it is easy to be duped.

You tell me Drlee you seem to know a lot about both of them. BTW please apply the last sentence above to yourself a well.

[Godstud]

@Finfinder I don't care what your feelings are about my posts. Address what I am saying and make an argument, instead of blathering on about bullshit like "meddling in our elections", and other mindless drivel.

Fact: Trump has been a very poor leader for America during this crisis. It is not Anti-American to point this out. It's realistic.

You are simply a person who cannot criticize Trump in any way(due to your complete adoration and infatuation with him), so you lash out at any, and all, who do.

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1) Not at all, the guy I voted for keeps picking federal judges that will follow the constitution and looks good that he is going to continue to do that for the next four years.



2) It's funny I just realized something. You actually have convinced yourself that politically, you argue from a position of power. That's is so cute.

1) That's a lot closer to an admission, than a rebut.

2) You are assuming I am like you. Which is incorrect. I have no power. I have been advocating for Progressive values since the 1960s. Since then the country has been pulled insanely far to the Right. So, no.

I value accuracy, and I advocate for what works.

[SpecialOlympian]

Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Ayn Rand

Which is why I support white genocide. We will be free from racism once all the white people are dead.

White people are the ones who created white identity, which is the driving force behind racism and the inequality and oppression it creates. It's sad but they have to die in order to protect Real Americans.

[SolarCross]

@SpecialOlympian is right! White leftists are in complete agreement with the KKK.

[QatzelOk]

Mass media's creation of a "left" and "right" identity politics opposition has sabotaged America's social cohesion.

As a gay who is supposed to hate straights, this post is dedicated to women who hate men, blacks who hates whites, rich people who hate the poor, religious people who hate other religions, and LGBTs who hate sexualities that don't require complex abreviations.

Try to restrict blood donations and protective equipment to that which comes from your own identity-politics group only. That way, a maximum of people will die, and the billionaires will be able to continue driving yachts to private islands for a few more years.

[Julian658]

"Still, Russia’s use of strategic propaganda is part of a decades-old playbook. What is new is how cleanly, simply and effectively it was able to distribute false information, manipulate mainstream media and amplify existing divisions using social media platforms. However, 2016 was not the first election in which social media played a role — so what changed? Why were Russian operatives able to amplify their message so clearly? And what does that mean for the 2020 election?

The question that begs an answer is:

Why would Putin, a former KGB from a communist nation favor a conservative government to destabilize America? Why not favor a left wing socialist government? A massive left wing movement would have a much greater chance to destroy America.

Why would the Russians prefer an American government that promotes a VERY strong armed forces over a left wing government that spends very little on defense?

[Julian658]

Which is why I support white genocide. We will be free from racism once all the white people are dead.

White people are the ones who created white identity, which is the driving force behind racism and the inequality and oppression it creates. It's sad but they have to die in order to protect Real Americans.

Ha, ha, you are joking but you really want that.

I don't think there is such a thing as racism. Racism implies superiority of one racial group over another. People that complain about racism 24/7 believe in equality. If there is equality there can be no racism. The minute YOU complain of racism YOU imply the other group is superior. So there is an inherent contradiction in those that complain about racism.

[Finfinder]

@Finfinder I don't care what your feelings are about my posts. Address what I am saying and make an argument, instead of blathering on about bullshit like "meddling in our elections", and other mindless drivel.

Fact: Trump has been a very poor leader for America during this crisis. It is not Anti-American to point this out. It's realistic.

You are simply a person who cannot criticize Trump in any way(due to your complete adoration and infatuation with him), so you lash out at any, and all, who do.

So we can agree. I could care less about your feelings about my opinion. No its not a fact. You haven't proven anything plus you don't even live here why would should I think your opinion is more credible than someone who lives here. It is not a fact and that has nothing to do weather I support the guy or not, you just haven't proven anything.

In my opinion absolutely you post Anti American rhetoric all the time. Again I could careless about your feeling on my opinion. I just know you do.

Prove where I have "lashed out" and as far as criticism 95% of the posts on this forum are anti Trump so in reality you are just upset and mad I don't blindly follow the liberal echo-chamber.

You saying " due to your complete adoration and infatuation with him), so you lash out at any, and all, who do" is evidence you have no argument.

@Finfinder
You are simply a person who cannot criticize Trump in any way(due to your complete adoration and infatuation with him), so you lash out at any, and all, who do.

You have never met me how you know me as a person LOL.

[Drlee]

Why would the Russians prefer an American government that promotes a VERY strong armed forces over a left wing government that spends very little on defense?

Your premise is wrong on a bunch of levels. So I think I will pass on this one. There is absolutely no way you would admit I was right even if my facts are sound.

Suffice it to say that Putin's support of Trump has been justified over and over again.

[Finfinder]

2) You are assuming I am like you. Which is incorrect. I have no power. I have been advocating for Progressive values since the 1960s. Since then the country has been pulled insanely far to the Right. So, no..

Or another way to look at it is the the country has moved to the right NOT pulled, because the left has failed to govern.

I value accuracy, and I advocate for what works.

I read your threads, and accuracy is not a word I would use to describe them.

[SpecialOlympian]

Ha, ha, you are joking but you really want that.

I don't think there is such a thing as racism. Racism implies superiority of one racial group over another. People that complain about racism 24/7 believe in equality. If there is equality there can be no racism. The minute YOU complain of racism YOU imply the other group is superior. So there is an inherent contradiction in those that complain about racism.

Lol I can't even tell what dumb troll point you're trying to make here. Try harder, son.

[Julian658]

Lol I can't even tell what dumb troll point you're trying to make here. Try harder, son.

Saying a point of view is dumb is not an argument. Therefore, I must conclude you do not have the capacity to debate this point.

The point is simple: There cannot be racism among equals. At most you can have discrimination if one group has more political power. The term racism does not apply anymore.