@ckaihatsu I am sure you are a very clever chap. But some of us are quite old and would appreciate it if you learned to edit. There's a good fellow.
Learned to edit *what* -- ?
You're being vague.
So 1000+ killings per year at the hands of cops isn't 'real' enough for you, PI?
Around 1,000 a year over the past three years (a little over 200 each year of which are Black), with no breakdown I've seen on how many were justified, how many were iffy, and how many the cops were clearly out of line. Meanwhile, we kill over 36,000 a year on our states' highways.
I guess the real question is 'What are the cops *defending*?'.
You're implying that the cops must be correct in their judgments by default, and that they simply make *errors* that lead to killings, but without detail provided to the public over every killing, we have no way of *qualifying* these killings, as you're pointing out.
In many cases, I'd estimate, nothing untoward would have happened if the cop/s hadn't *been* there -- in other words oftentimes the cops just wind up *escalating* a situation that would have had better results / endings simply if the cops weren't a part of it.
Then add into it *overreactions*, like shooting someone in the back who's running away and is obviously *no threat* to the officer, and also *summary executions*, which overlap with 'overreactions'.
Suddenly the *statistical* approach doesn't seem so meaningful or relevant, since so many of the *questionable* uses of force turn out to be *egregious* / gratuitous uses of force.
Maybe you see it as basically open-ended, or maybe you're in the 'singularity' teleology camp, but from the standpoint of *socialist politics* what matters is that technology, even under the bourgeois incrementalist snail-pace, has the *potential* to materially liberate all of humanity from dire need and want.
No it doesn't. Technology will never liberate humanity because humanity is a prison of dominance and exploitation that runs on need and want(you are all diseased). Technology has the potential to liberate consciousness from humanity and that's the only real hope for any kind of world where life is worth living.
You're saying that humanity is 'diseased'. Would this be due to the coronavirus -- ?
I think humanity would still have its own, 'internal' problems and issues to resolve, mostly separately from technology, like who needs to sacrifice their lives in labor, and who doesn't. (Hence 'class', and Marxism, etc.)
Also you're forgetting the 'promise' of technology, which is *convenience* -- the more that's *automated* / industrialized, the *less* labor that *anyone* has to do, to make such goods and services physically exist. *Full* automation would mean that *no one* has to do labor, because the machine does it *all*, by mere button-pushing by the consumer. If I could 3D-print a frickin' *meal*, I *would*.
It’s up to me to decide whether I trust any numbers coming out of non-developed countries. Do you have a link for your numbers? And you’ve already said that developed countries aren’t sending their children back to school while the pandemic is on, so your “most European countries” aren’t developed.
Also, I note that you haven’t provided that breakdown of how many of the shootings are justified, without that we can’t diagnose the problem, can we? I would rather have a thousand criminals killed each year at the hands of cops than a thousand cops killed each year at the hands of criminals.
It’s up to me to decide whether I trust any numbers coming out of non-developed countries.
I would rather have a thousand criminals killed each year at the hands of cops than a thousand cops killed each year at the hands of criminals.
And who defines who's a 'criminal', exactly? (I think *this* issue is more-to-the-point.)
It's up to me to decide whether I trust any numbers coming out of *developed* countries.