- 13 Apr 2021 11:54
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I posted this in TLTE, but this seems a better place for it.
In context, @Goranhammer was condemning the sale of 80% lowers.
Correct.
Nobody I know has ever called a Glock pretty. But an 80% lower is a cheap way to get a custom pistol with a minimum of tools and skill.
Glock doesn't give you a choice of ported barrel anymore, and I've never seen a threaded barrel on a stock Glock. That isn't a problem when you are building your own. Extended slide stops, magazine releases, '-' connectors, trigger bars, etc., etc. can all be fitted to your liking, and you don't end up with a pile of parts you'll never use.
For the responsible American* gun owner who wants a cheap reliable pistol custom-made to their specifications, 80% lowers are the bee's knees.
Now you might think the above is highly irresponsible, and it is, but when you have 450** 398 million guns, many of them unregistered, I don't think a few 100 thousands more make much of a difference; banning them is just playing at regulation.
As is Biden in banning bump stocks*** and pistol braces. What good will it do? You don't need a device to bump fire and a one-point sling, if used properly, works just as well as a brace.
* The law is different here.
** I just took a middling estimate, but I am perfectly happy using @jimjam's number. Some ideologically motivated firearm advocates assert that American civilians own as many as 600 million guns.
*** Bump fire stocks, commonly and incorrectly referred to in the media as “bump stocks”, are an attempt to simulate full-auto fire. The way they do this, however, sacrifices all manner of stability and bone support. The rifle bounces around in all manner of ways that it wouldn’t when firing semiautomatic or even fully automatic.
Full-auto fire isn’t exactly the best way to maintain precision accuracy, but bump fire throws accuracy out the window entirely.
"All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia" Orwell
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jimjam wrote:I am in favor of gun ownership but, sorry, this strikes me as mass insanity/stupidity.
I posted this in TLTE, but this seems a better place for it.
In context, @Goranhammer was condemning the sale of 80% lowers.
Goranhammer wrote: Nobody is buying one because it's an aesthetical masterpiece
Correct.
Nobody I know has ever called a Glock pretty. But an 80% lower is a cheap way to get a custom pistol with a minimum of tools and skill.
Glock doesn't give you a choice of ported barrel anymore, and I've never seen a threaded barrel on a stock Glock. That isn't a problem when you are building your own. Extended slide stops, magazine releases, '-' connectors, trigger bars, etc., etc. can all be fitted to your liking, and you don't end up with a pile of parts you'll never use.
For the responsible American* gun owner who wants a cheap reliable pistol custom-made to their specifications, 80% lowers are the bee's knees.
Now you might think the above is highly irresponsible, and it is, but when you have 450** 398 million guns, many of them unregistered, I don't think a few 100 thousands more make much of a difference; banning them is just playing at regulation.
As is Biden in banning bump stocks*** and pistol braces. What good will it do? You don't need a device to bump fire and a one-point sling, if used properly, works just as well as a brace.
* The law is different here.
** I just took a middling estimate, but I am perfectly happy using @jimjam's number. Some ideologically motivated firearm advocates assert that American civilians own as many as 600 million guns.
*** Bump fire stocks, commonly and incorrectly referred to in the media as “bump stocks”, are an attempt to simulate full-auto fire. The way they do this, however, sacrifices all manner of stability and bone support. The rifle bounces around in all manner of ways that it wouldn’t when firing semiautomatic or even fully automatic.
Full-auto fire isn’t exactly the best way to maintain precision accuracy, but bump fire throws accuracy out the window entirely.
"All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia" Orwell
E l/r -10 : L/A -7.64