Godstud wrote:You're the kind of person who causes this, with your ignorance and stupid comments.
So we don't need gun control then, we need ignorance and stupid comments control?
ness31 wrote:I wonder how many mass knife attacks occur in China daily? Oh that’s right, we’ll never know because they don’t air their dirty laundry for the world to see.
If they did, they'd just blame it on Western imperialism anyway.
Godstud wrote:The UK has 0.06 gun deaths per 100,000, whereas USA had 4.43 in 2017. Can you do the math on that one? It's over 73 times as many.
Brits do not have the right to keep and bear arms. Neither do Canadians.
Tainari88 wrote:It won't stop really because it is about not restricting the alternative to solving your emotional and financial and any problem issue with a gun killing spree.
The guy was obviously mentally ill.
ness31 wrote:Maybe the Chinese, with their 1.4 billion people are superior to decadent Westerners who can’t seem to keep their shit together. Yeah, maybe that’s it.
It's the government that does the mass killing in China.
B0ycey wrote:But being that mass shootings are a frequent event in the US that it is becoming a "Dog bites man" news story, that to me suggests that there is something going on beyond gun ownership in all of this. There are too many angry people in America where the system is letting them down that they are now becoming more extreme and becoming violent.
Mass media and wokeism is pretty terrible. I cancelled cable and got Fubo, but I think I'm even going to cancel Fubo, because YouTube tries to force feed me mass media anyway. I see no reason to pay for it, since I'm more or less trying to avoid it these days.
Oxymoron wrote:Terrorist attack not shooting.... by someone who would not have been in this country if sensible immigration policies were in place.
thank you Obama for bringing these Syrian Terrorists to our country, you fucking Dumb ass.
This is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what Obama did to Syria.
ness31 wrote:I just think it’s a bit unfair how we all gawk at the States with their gun issues when other countries with massive populations are either rape fests or non forthcoming with their societal shortcomings.
Fairness aside, I think that it's a media obsession and that gets propagated world wide. I point that out in cases of police violence, because it's mind-bendingly worse in other countries and there's virtually no coverage of it anywhere. How's the EU doing on coronavirus? Not too well. However, you never here anyone talking about Ursula von der Layen. While we can quip that she's not democratically elected, mass media does not seem to care about European political leaders; and, hence even Europeans do not seem to care about European political leaders. They are focused on the United States.
Godstud wrote:Your country isn't as free as you'd like to believe.
Funny. If I say something like that to you, you call me a conspiracy theorist. Did you change your mind?
Godstud wrote:Any claims of Islamic extremism fall apart when you realize he's as American as you can get.
Culturally, America is Christian, not Muslim. So that may have contributed to his mental illness, which looks like paranoid schizophrenia from what little I know of the story.
ness31 wrote:Who came up with this ‘whataboutist’ shit? It’s called comparing and contrasting. It’s an actual thing.
Critical theory types who want you to focus on their criticisms of the United States, and virtually nothing else.
wat0n wrote:But gun ownership has been a thing in the US since basically forever, so what's going on?
Possibly the effect of first person shooter video games on the mentally ill and maybe a mis-prescribed anti-depressant.
Politics_Observer wrote:He had no business being able to purchase a firearm. Common sense dictates that if somebody has a mental health issue, they probably should not be allowed to buy such weapons.
Maybe he didn't buy it. The kid in the Sandy Hook shooting didn't buy his weapon, but he was also a mentally ill kid with a penchant for first person shooter video games. Maybe we need video game regulation.
Politics_Observer wrote:Even sane minded people who become irrational and angry for a little bit can take one of those weapons and endanger the lives of innocent people.
Yes, but having the personality type of a rule follower, you are assuming that regulations are going to be followed and thereby stop crimes. America is a society that embraces maximum freedom for the mentally ill, and does not want to reflect on the problems with that type of ideology. That comes with good reason, because the Soviet Union was known for incarcerating political dissidents as mentally ill when they were no such thing. The US used to incarcerate chronic alcoholics in sanitariums.
Politics_Observer wrote:The reason why we have these mass shootings is because we lack gun regulations and laws in this country that make it harder to purchase and own firearms.
America is not a place with a lack of laws. Ironically, what you do when you make it harder is that you create an underground economy for illegal guns. Who often gets busted for them? Black people. Push this agenda, and the logical conclusion is that you will be putting more black people in jail. Then, you will claim the system is racist for the very laws you supported. I caution you to be a lot more thoughtful about what you support politically. As I pointed out, our current president is the person who wrote the legislation that made the US into a mass incarceration state. Just because he's a Democrat, you shouldn't ignore that fact.
Politics_Observer wrote:They need to be heavily regulated and controlled due to their lethality and the threat they can pose to public safety. That's just common sense. The government has a duty to assure public safety.
They are heavily regulated. It's crazy people who are not heavily regulated anymore. This stuff didn't happen nearly as frequently before de-institutionalization of crazy people. The homeless epidemic has similar roots.
Tainari88 wrote:Its downfall? Greed, and lack of ethics. Betraying the idea of a representative truly democratic republic.
That lack of ethics in my view is pushed by the political left and it's opposition to traditional morality. Greed is certainly an issue, but I think it's greatest manifestation is free trade with China so that we can all have iPhones and cheap shoes made by quasi-slave labor.
Tainari88 wrote:Being racist and denying it and more importantly NOT doing something real to change and not make racism so integral to its greed.
I think that's an orthogonal issue. Lebron James or Michael Jordan do not seem to have any problem making money off of quasi-slave labor in China, or kids killing each other over Nike Air Jordans or Nike Lebrons. That's typically a crime that involves black people killing other black people for status symbols created by black people and made with cheap Chinese labor.
Tainari88 wrote:Putting too many efforts into hyperindividualism and losing a sense of community.
That is an issue. Humans are social animals.
Tainari88 wrote:Having too many angry and dissatisfied people in its borders when other nations have a lot less materially and who make the best of what they do have.
I think a lot of that comes from mass media narratives. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's a poison all its own. I don't watch it much at all anymore, which maybe makes me less informed. However, I think I'm a happier person for it.
ingliz wrote:If Americans are willing to put up with this needless killing, week after week, year on year, why should I give a damn?
You shouldn't. It's only a media narrative for gun control, and they only use mass shootings because the victims are usually white. Blacks shoot each other all the time, and the media doesn't care at all.
Julian658 wrote:Most mass shooters are mentally ill regardless of nationality.
That's correct, and many of them are on anti-depressants too. Doctors hand those out like Chiclets at the border, because SSRIs don't have a lot of drug-drug interactions. Yet, they don't have a way of measuring neurotransmitter levels to see what kinds of drugs are needed if any. It's just like throwing darts at a board. They warn you to call your doctor if you have any suicidal ideation, but not if you have homicidal ideation. So there is some political mischief there too, because lawyers never fail to capitalize on something like that.
Julian658 wrote:However, the left will say he was tormented by white supremacists and hence they are culpable.
Yeah. That's why I'm probably going to cancel my Fubo too. They are trying to do the same thing with the confessed sex addict who shot some Asians in a massage parlor.
There is a bit of an epidemic of crime against Asians. According to my cop friend, there has been antipathy between blacks and Asians for at least 30 years. He says that around the Chinese new year, the Chinese carry more cash than usual for good luck. So they come in for muggings, mostly by black assailants. He says that many Asians simply carry more cash than most people, because they don't trust banks.
Julian658 wrote:BTW, the shooter looks white. That is a bonus for the left,
Maybe, but ratings are way down. A lot fewer people are willing to sit through a news cast anymore, because it's usually just Democrat party propaganda. It's like the Soviet Union used to be with Pravda and Izvestia.
Tainari88 wrote:It is alienated people with no real relationships and a sense of belonging to something greater than themselves. Angry as hell and violent as hell.
Well, you really can't watch mass media anymore without coming away angry and disaffected. That's why I have chosen to tune it out. I just don't really need to know what's going on everywhere and listen to mindless narratives from leftists who want to divide everyone.
Tainari88 wrote:It does have more incarcerated people per capita than any other industrialized nation on Earth.
That wasn't the case until Joe Biden's 1994 crime bill. Let's make sure we underscore who underwrote the mass incarceration. We don't want to white wash his sins away now that he sadly suffers from Lewy body dementia.
Tainari88 wrote:The private prison system makes money off of law breakers. Lawyers make money off of criminality or even just breaking some rule that is not worth penalizing someone for....like throwing a shoe at a wall after an argument with a spouse because you find out they cheated on you and the neighbors in the apartment complex call the cops in Colorado and now automatically you got to go to court and you wind up paying $5, $10 or $15k in fines and anger management classes because the state has to make money and the private penal system does too.
The public prison system does too. Your antipathy for profit margins doesn't extend to prison guards and their labor unions, but it probably should. As for domestic violence, the Democrats will use any excuse like that to feather their nests for "women's rights" in your example. However, they are doing next to nothing in places like San Francisco for non-violent offenses. I was hanging out with my cop buddy yesterday, and he said he hadn't been to court on a non-violent misdemeanor in 5 years.
Tainari88 wrote:Infant mortality is extremely high in the USA. Something is not working.
Yes, but among which population groups? Drug addicted? Certainly not among upper middle class whites or Asians.
MistyTiger wrote:Maybe the music if you can call it that, has gotten angrier. I listen to some hip hop or rap these days (rarely) and some of it includes references to violence and illegal stuff.
Ha! Black music is the most racist, sexist, homophobic and violent music out there. Nobody says a thing about it. If white artists even say something racist, they lose their record contracts. White liberals expect blacks to behave that way, but hold white people to totally different standards. White liberals are some of the most racist people on the planet, and their wokeism is just to hide that fact from everyone.
Tainari88 wrote:Like Timothy McVeigh. A homegrown terrorist.
McVeigh was taking revenge for the massacre at Waco.
ingliz wrote:A Nazi revisionist who consistently exhibits extreme carelessness with facts, Peterson, an academic who declares that he chooses his words "very, very, carefully," misrepresents chronology, misuses his historical sources, and rewrites Holocaust history in a specious apologia for Hitler.
Well, your tagline seems to be blaming it all on IBM selling tabulating machines to the German government. Why not update your tagline to Google selling surveillance technologies to the Chinese government? Google is far more complicit than IBM, even getting rid of their erstwhile "Don't be evil" tagline, because they apparently know they are providing enabling technologies to a government that will use them to systematically violate human rights.
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