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Once a hallmark of the boy and girl next door, blue eyes have become increasingly rare among American children. Immigration patterns, intermarriage, and genetics all play a part in their steady decline. While the drop-off has been a century in the making, the plunge in the past few decades has taken place at a remarkable rate.

About half of Americans born at the turn of the 20th century had blue eyes, according to a 2002 Loyola University study in Chicago. By mid-century that number had dropped to a third. Today only about one 1 of every 6 Americans has blue eyes, said Mark Grant, the epidemiologist who conducted the study.

Grant was moved to research the subject when he noticed that blue eyes were much more prevalent among his elderly patients in the nursing home where he worked than in the general population. At first he thought blue eyes might be connected to life expectancy, so he began comparing data from early 20th- century health surveys. Turns out it has more to do with marriage patterns.

A century ago, 80 percent of people married within their ethnic group, Grant said. Blue eyes -- a genetically recessive trait -- were routinely passed down, especially among people of English, Irish, and Northern European ancestry.

In the 1930s, eugenicists used the disappearance of blue eyes as a rallying cry to support immigration restrictions. They went so far as to map the parts of the country with the highest and lowest percentage of blue-eyed people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/18/worl ... 99975.html


A 2002 study found the prevalence of blue eye color among Caucasians in the United States to be 33.8 percent for those born from 1936 through 1951 compared with 57.4 percent for those born from 1899 through 1905. Blue eyes have become increasingly rare among American children with only 1 out of every 6 – 16.6 percent which is 49.8 million out of 300 million (22.4% of white Americans) of the total United States population having blue eyes. The plunge in the past few decades has taken place at a remarkable rate. A century ago, 80 percent of people married within their ethnic group. Blue eyes, a genetically recessive trait, were routinely passed down, especially among people of Scottish, English, Irish, Welsh, Western and Northern Slavic, and Northern European ancestry.​

Today, fewer than 9% of the children under the age of 5 years old in the U.S. have blue eyes.

For countries that haven't experienced high levels of immigration, that percentage is still very high. In Estonia, for example, 99 percent of the population has blue eyes.

Part of this is simply Mendelian genetics over long periods of time. Since blue eyes are a recessive trait, given a mixed population and intermarriage, we would expect it to gradually disappear. But probably an even greater part of this demonstrates shifting racial demographics in the country. There are fewer whites, and even of those counted as white in the overall statistics, a large segment are "somewhat less than white" (such as Hispanics with ancestry from Latin America or persons from Middle Eastern countries).

There has been a lot of mixing going on and so far I've seen at least two young Black men with blue eyes while waiting in the checkout line, lighter skinned, obviously had a white mother.


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Blue eyes are an anomaly. Maybe more people prefer dark eyes. Dark eyes tend to look warmer. Some of my ancestors probably had light eyes because in natural lighting, my eyes appear gray or even olive green. Indoor lighting brings out the brown and golden tones. One time I took a closeup photo of my pupils and they looked amber, that was weird. Therefore, I have hazel eyes. But to be simpler, I put brown eyes on my official identifications.

There are studies that link lighter eye colors to increased risk of skin cancer, for example. Perhaps a lot of blue-eyed people had higher rates of skin cancer over the past several years? I don't know. I've included a study from the NiH about skin cancer.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34687387/

I am careful when I'm outdoors in the sun in any case. I prefer polarized glasses.

There has been a lot of mixing going on and so far I've seen at least two young Black men with blue eyes while waiting in the checkout line, lighter skinned, obviously had a white mother.


Not necessarily that they had a white mother. It could be from an earlier ancestor as well. For example, Aishwarya Rai is one of the fairer skinned Indian women but both her parents are Indian. We do not know the story of her heritage but not everyone who has paler skin has a white mother. I am fair skinned for a Chinese and my ancestors are Chinese. My grandmother who was born in China actually had fair skin. A lot of northern Chinese have fair skin, they live at a higher altitude and many live near mountains. Southern Chinese are darker. Chinese are not generally called white. But are they white? They can look white.
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A 2002 study found the prevalence of blue eye color among Caucasians in the United States to be 33.8 percent for those born from 1936 through 1951 compared with 57.4 percent for those born from 1899 through 1905.


The term 'Caucasians' is an all-inclusive word and not restricted to Northern Europeans, including Arabs, Muslims and North Africans such as Moroccans and Algerians, who mostly immigrated to the U.S. in the post-war era.

There are studies that link lighter eye colors to increased risk of skin cancer, for example. Perhaps a lot of blue-eyed people had higher rates of skin cancer over the past several years? I don't know. I've included a study from the NiH about skin cancer.


Blue-eyed people may be more at risk for developing eye melanoma, which is a rare form of eye cancer. Incidence rates for cutaneous malignant melanoma were calculated as 45.5/100,000 in Tasmania compared to 65.3/100,000 in Queensland. The pigmentation phenotype (including eye colour) is darker in Queensland compared to Tasmania, and thus partially protective for sun damage. Natural selection may be at play to lower UV-associated disease risk in Britain's former colonies, which are located in areas close to the equator.

Background: The aim was to determine whether latitudinal (Queensland versus Tasmania) variation in reported disease frequency in Australia may be biased by differences in population. Methods: A retrospective analysis was conducted from data of two large Australian twin studies (n = 1,835) having undertaken ophthalmic examination, namely, Twins Eye Study in Tasmania (TEST) and the Brisbane Adolescent Twins Study (BATS). Ordinal logistic regression was used to compute odds ratios and predicted probabilities for each category of eye colour by state. Results: Tasmanian residence was associated with lower odds of darker iris colour (odds ratio 0.77, 95% CI [0.63-0.95]) signifying that participants living in Tasmania (TAS) are less likely to have darker-coloured irides than those residing in Queensland (QLD). For individuals living in Tasmania the predicted probability (TAS versus QLD) of having light blue eyes was greater (16.7 versus 13.3 per cent), approximately the same for green eyes and less for brown/dark brown-coloured eyes (6.2 versus 7.9 per cent). Conclusions: We found a general trend of individuals living in the southern states (TAS/VIC) of Australia having lighter-coloured irides compared to those living in the north (QLD). This finding has potential implications for all epidemiological research conducted to explore differences in UV-associated disease frequency in Australia, as population heterogeneity may confound the estimates obtained.
https://research-repository.uwa.edu.au/ ... colour-acr
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Who cares about eye colours? They are irrelevant, given that a pair of contacts can give you blue eyes in a pinch. I see blue-eyed girls every day in Thailand. :D

It's only people concerned about RACE that see this as relevant to any degree. Genetic diversity will only make humans better, and blue eyes have always been a minority.
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Sandzak wrote:Capitalism is a brutal racist system
:roll: No. Capitalism isn't racist. It's an economic system, not a system of oppression.

Supply and demand are just that, and exist in reality. Applying it to race is what YOU are doing, and THAT is racist. So, technically, you are simply a racist using the Capitalist system.
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Godstud wrote::roll: No. Capitalism isn't racist. It's an economic system, not a system of oppression.

Supply and demand are just that, and exist in reality. Applying it to race is what YOU are doing, and THAT is racist. So, technically, you are simply a racist using the Capitalist system.



No, it is what people worldwide perceive as beautiful, for example red hair women have lighter skinn then blonde, but gingers are not hot.

Most famous pornstars are blonde with blue eyes (this is not limited to one culture but worldwide)
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Sandzak wrote:No, it is what people worldwide perceive as beautiful, for example red hair women have lighter skinn then blonde, but gingers are not hot.
:lol: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most Asian women are seen as attractive, and they have brown eyes, almost without exception.

Many people find red-heads to be very attractive, espicially the women. You can have a personal preference, but that doesn't make it true for everyone

Sandzak wrote:Most famous pornstars are blonde with blue eyes (this is not limited to one culture but worldwide)
Hollywood is not the real world. Hey, if you want to play that game, then:

Gal Gadot is regarded as one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood and she's neither blonde nor has bleu eyes.
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You'll find more brown-eyed brunettes in your "Most beautiful women in the world" lists. Who cares how many blue-eyed women are in USA if they are getting more attractive? :lol:

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