[Comrade Ogilvy]

Give me 10 good reasons to support the regime in the US, and I might reconsider my stance against the Bush administration.

[The American Lion]

Give me 10 good reasons to support the regime in the US, and I might reconsider my stance against the Bush administration.

1. Tax Cuts
2. Defend America's Intrests first.
3. Brought down 2 authortian governments.
4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.
5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.
6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.
7. He reminded the world were still a super power.
8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.
9. He creating democratic governments in the world.
10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

[CrazyPete]

I'll give you a few reasons not to.

1. Tax Cuts
2. Defend America's Intrests first.
3. Brought down 2 authortian governments and replaced them with chaos.
4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.
5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.
6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.
7. He reminded the world were still a super power.
8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.
9. He creating chaos by overthrowing governments in the world in favour of geurrilla warfare and warlord rule.
10. He doesnt give into black-mail by those who can defend themselves, but ruthlessly attacks those who can.

Thank you TRP

[Dark Canuck]

Heh. It's always so easy to destory the reasoning of fascists.

[Nathan Hale Jr]

Ignoring the rest of what you said, what exactly is wrong with making it easier to send children to better schools?

I can't understand that objection at all.

[The American Lion]

Ignoring the rest of what you said, what exactly is wrong with making it easier to send children to better schools?

I can't understand that objection at all.

Because they cant be brainwashed by thier ideals.

[U-235]

Please show me an example of this policey being implimented TRP.

How exactly is "2. Defend America's Intrests first. " a reason to vote republican?

[Steven_K]

2. Defend America's Intrests first.

And people wonder why everyone hates America. There is such a thing as diplomacy and comprimises.

4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.

Religious war makes me all fuzzy inside. Seriously, this is the scariest thing I've heard in a long time. You're basically admitting that bush is trying to fight a religious war against islam, by using the term Jihad, that is.

5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.

Has this been a challenge in the US. My impression is usually if you have the money, you go to private school.

7. He reminded the world were still a super power.

There must be an easier way to do this than blow up two countries.

9. He creating democratic governments in the world.

A little hasty to say that. There has been no democracy in afghanistan, and he is opposing direct elections in Iraq.

10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

On the other hand, he has no problems being friends with dictatorsips, like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Indonesia, and Pakistan.

As a note TRP, seriously check your grammar and spelling. Leaving verbs out of your sentences makes you sound like you've been speaking english for a year, and your sentence structures just make me cringe. You arn't going to convince anyone if you can't spell or right a proper sentence.

[Goranhammer]

As a note TRP, seriously check your grammar and spelling. Leaving verbs out of your sentences makes you sound like you've been speaking english for a year, and your sentence structures just make me cringe. You arn't going to convince anyone if you can't spell or right a proper sentence.

English should be capitalized.

"Aren't" has an E in it.

Also, it's "write", not "right".

Ok I'm done being an ass now.

To the main point, I won't provide 10 reasons, because a) the reasons may not be subjectable to those who do not live in the United States, and b) it wouldn't change anyone's mind anyways. I vote and think the way I do because, as I said, it's how I think and feel. I'm not here to influence anyone to do as I do by force, just to say what I feel. No more, no less.

[Tovarish Spetsnaz]

5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.

Maybe you can learn to construct proper sentences then...

BTW...there is a IS between he and trying.

*shakes head*...product of the American education system...*shakes head*

[Steven_K]

I'll conceed that my english was very sloppy in that post, but at least I have complete sentences. My main point is that most of TRPs sentences where not even complete.

[Freedom]

Will you kids shut up about grammar and spelling.

My main point is that most of TRPs sentences where not even complete

No one cares. Its a complete non-issue and amounts to nothing but a bland personal attack at another forum member. This kind of thing shouldnt even be a point.

Maybe you can learn to construct proper sentences then

TS, you are the last(or one of the last) person on this board that needs to be complaining about the grammar of other forum members.

[Tovarish Spetsnaz]

I'm not complaining about grammar....God knows I can't spell a single word in English. But its not my native language...not by far...

But as Steven poitned out...TRP's sentences...syntactically...are incomplete. And he does it in nearly every sentence...Not to mention "Palistians" and "libertians"...which were written that way over and over and over even after people pointed them out to him.

This shows something very disturbing...He's a native speaker...claims to be 20 years old...and yet can't write a single sentance correctly. This leads me to seriouslly doubt his claims of being 20. Its not possible. The only people I have seen write sentences in that manner are 12 and 13 year olds.

This is not an attack on him personally...just pointing out the failure of the American education system.

Usually...no matter in what language...you do not leave out things like "verbs" from a sentence...over and over again.

[clownboy]

I agree with some of these, but with our current President, it's a mixed bag for me. He is NOT the best President I've experienced, and he's NOT the worst.

Up against ANY of the original Nine Dwarves, he looks pretty darn good to me.

1. Tax Cuts

A good move in the right direction. A better course would have been to not take the money from us in the first place.

And no more BS about how we had "surpluses". We've never, in modern times, had a surplus. What we have had, is a projected surplus. That simply means that, if we go forward for 8-10 years spending no more than we SAID we would, AND the economy stays EXACTLY the same - only then would we have a surplus.

Times this has happened = 0.

2. Defend America's Intrests first.

He continues to work within NAFTA and is calling for more of the same with S. America - so, no, I don't believe he's achieving this one.

And the damn India Caucus has GOT to go!

"Everyone hates America" (Steven_K) - and everyone wants to either be here or emulate our culture. Note: the usage of the all-inclusive "everyone" is strictly to balance Steven's statement.

3. Brought down 2 authortian governments.

Got NO problem here.

4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.

If this means consistent consequences for bad behavior directed at the US - cool.

5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.

"Has this been a challenge in the US. My impression is usually if you have the money, you go to private school." (Steven_K)

That's a part of the problem - money. To send your children to private school in this country now you must pay twice. For the public school through taxes, and then again through tuition. There is absolutely NO evidence that public schools offer anywhere near the level of education that private schools do.

Parent's should be able to shop around with their education dollar.

6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.

President Bush and the current Congress are handling SS in the same corrupt and illegal manner as their predecessors. Social Security is being and has been raped by interests outside it's defined purpose. We need to stop using it for a slush fund.

7. He reminded the world were still a super power.

No problem here. And Steven, if there were an easier way, the whole of recorded history has yet to discover it.

8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.

About time! We're going to need this. It's not wise for a species to keep ALL it's eggs in one place. One stray event and buh-bye.

Not to mention the technological and economic developments that inevitably follow such endeavors.

9. He creating democratic governments in the world.

Yes. He's Wilsonian.

Creating a democracy is a messy and lengthy endeavor. I want him to succeed here.

10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

You can add France and Russia to that list.

[Monkey Angst]

1. Tax Cuts

Coupled with expensive military adventurism, and you get massive deficits. Hardly what one would call conservative.

2. Defend America's Intrests first.

While it's an odious concept, I suppose one must expect it from the President of the US. Of course, that applies to any president, not just GW.

3. Brought down 2 authortian governments.

Sure did, but see #9.

4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.

Yeah, that does sound a little religious, doesn't it. Unfortunately, of course, this "jihad" is not just against terrorists any more than al-Qaeda's jihad is just against Americans -- a lot of other people get in the way as well.

5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.

When he could be making the point moot by making public schools better.

6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.

I really hope you mean "Social Security" here... You seem to consider this a plus, I call it a minus.

7. He reminded the world were still a super power.

The world has never needed reminding of that. We bleat about it constantly.

8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.

OK. I'll give you that. He wants to go to the moon.

9. He creating democratic governments in the world.

How many has he created so far? The jury is going to be out on this one for a very long time.

10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

Has he been blackmailed by any dictators? Seems like he himself is the only one doing any blackmailing...

[NDP Will Win]

Give me 10 good reasons to support the regime in the US, and I might reconsider my stance against the Bush administration.

1. Tax Cuts
2. Defend America's Intrests first.
3. Brought down 2 authortian governments.
4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.
5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.
6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.
7. He reminded the world were still a super power.
8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.
9. He creating democratic governments in the world.
10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

The ignorant fascism.

The complete contempt for the English language.

The collective, jingoist user name.

You're Adam Yoshida.

[JustinGilmore]

Give me 10 good reasons to support the regime in the US, and I might reconsider my stance against the Bush administration.

1. Tax Cuts
2. Defend America's Intrests first.
3. Brought down 2 authortian governments.
4. He gave our version of Jihad agaist the terrorists.
5. He trying to make it easyer to send children to private schools.
6. Trying to get America out of the idea of a Wel-fare state. By privatising some parts of SS.
7. He reminded the world were still a super power.
8. Dont forget is idea to return to the moon.
9. He creating democratic governments in the world.
10. He dosent give into black-mail by Dictators. (Example: North Korea)

Here's a one on one rebuttle vs the above quote:
1. tax cuts, but ONLY FOR THE EXTREMLY RICH
2. He did not defend anything, we went to war with iraq over WMD's which they didn't have. (9,000 iraqies dead, 500 GI's dead)
3. Brought down two governments, though replaced them with pupet leaders and didn't let the people vote.
4. He killed innocent people, in relation to "jihad" which cannot be proved was the reason for 9/11
5. He promoted private schools wile letting public schools die, and in effect promoted worse education to poverty striken children.
6. Trying to get America out of the "wel-fare" state by subjecting poor people deeper into proverty via discontinued programs for the poor.
7. He reminded the world that we're large and in charge by killing innocent people. Also destroyed our relations with the UN, we now have 3 friends left at the UN.
8. He's spending billions to return to the moon wile letting poor people pay additional cash for prescritption drugs, even people like cancer patents or AIDs patents cannot receive any form of substantial help, even if below the poverty line. The moon can wait.
9. He's creating democratic pupet governments around the world to get cheap oil and labor. Yet again subjecting poor to work under our conditions, not there own will.
10. He doesn't give into dictators, ie north korea, instead he sits back and lets them create nuclear wepons wile attacting innocent countries like Iraq. Wonderfull.[/code]

[JustinGilmore]

Ignoring the rest of what you said, what exactly is wrong with making it easier to send children to better schools?

I can't understand that objection at all.

Because they cant be brainwashed by thier ideals.

Republicans want public school mainly for new special intrest donations. This way they can print bias information in text books for kids, AND advertise there religion, pepsi, and whatever else these bigots could think of. Terrible! Just thought I'de add that.

[clownboy]

Here's a one on one rebuttle vs the above quote:
1. tax cuts, but ONLY FOR THE EXTREMLY RICH

5. He promoted private schools wile letting public schools die, and in effect promoted worse education to poverty striken children.

Responding to a couple here because they are just so egregious.
1) That's a bald-faced lie! Everyone who paid taxes got a cut. That's how a graduated income tax system works. If you don't like it, you're welcome to have SCOTUS reverse their original decision that led it's creation. We can all go back to federal excise taxes.

5) You should check out how the system works before you comment on it's efficacy. "Poverty stricken children" pay no more for their schooling (public or private) under the voucher system, than they do now - nothing!

[clownboy]

Republicans want public school mainly for new special intrest donations. This way they can print bias information in text books for kids, AND advertise there religion, pepsi, and whatever else these bigots could think of. Terrible! Just thought I'de add that.

Didn't you just finish arguing (in #5 above) that republicans aren't interested in public schools? Which is it?