[Comrade Ogilvy]

*Crosses arms and paces*
Now, this forum seemed pretty cool, intelegent to, so I'll give you the bennefit of the doubt. But just incase I want things to be clear, I am NOT siding with Bush. Infact several tests have determined my republican and democratic stances are almost equal in amount. Putting me in a neutral state of who I want as my presidential canidate. Though Bush does seem like the better choice right now. I don't agree with alot of what he says or does, but I respect the man for sticking to his convictions, but now I'm babbeling.. To my point..

Kerry's tax increase to those that make over two hundred thousand a year is a cheap attempt at winning your trust. As someone who personally knows all too well how to persuade people with seemingly great offers, (The name should tip you off. ) I see right through this disguise. Consider this..

The blue collar joe smoes may not have to pay anything.
And the rich fat cats hardly notice a tax increase. They make sigh and grumble a little, but nothing that couldn't be solved with a check and a pen.

But what about small buisnesses? Thier income is large enough to make them be considerd succesful, but not quite large enough to put them on par with the succesful. Therfor the small buisness man gifts shafted. And this paves the way for major coperations to buy them out or simply bump them off the mat entirely. I was lucky enough to see first hand small buisnesses grow into something larger. I remember when Papa Johns was a no name pizza place, and Blimpies was just a Subway rip-off down the street..

This is basically handing over any possibility of future competition for the major buisnesses of the present. Looks to me like the only people Kerry's looking out for are those WITH money. Wasn't that the republican's job?

And you can complain about Bush all you like. But atleast Bush has a to do list, when confronted with questions, Kerry cleverly changes the subject to how he knows someone who knows someone and is a lamer. He never directly confronts an issue, because he's a coward, and just wants your love. I refuse to listen to someone who has less of a brain then me. He is not leader matireal.

Also Bush quite impressed me with that ad campaign about the war. Not the war in itself, but it was the first ever presidential ad I saw that DIDN'T insult his competition. That showed me Bush has confiedence, he doesn't have to stoop to picking on his combatnants cause he knows he's better. That's one of the things I've always been waiting for an electee to do, and Bush did just that. Now, he has insulted Kerry A LITTLE. But no more then anyone else would someone who pesters and annoys them for six months straight. George W. Bush is a human being, but he's the best damn human I've seen in a long time. His conservative views are sometimes a little hard even for a relativly oldschool guy like me to swallow, but as I said.. he's got my respect. Kerry does not.

I just thought I'd like to point that out to all you Kerry lovers that this petty tax thing you think is going to make things better is only going to quicken the road to monopolization. Enjoy your victory against "Hitler incarnate" while you have no choice at where you work as whatever your proffession one company rules over them all in that department.

[Goranhammer]

Kerry's whole campaign is smoke and mirrors. His main MO is "avoid everything and don't step on toes, hoping Bush beats himself". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It did with Kennedy. It very well could again.

Kerry wants to raise taxes on EVERYONE, not just the rich...it's just that the rich will be the first to notice, and will hit them harder. Make no mistake about it, nobody is exempt from the hand grabbing at their paycheck if he gets in.

The Democrat hasn't been "for the small businessman" since the days before Carter. They're no longer seen as people with ideas and motivation, they're seen as a higher taxable income to line their own pockets. The glass ceiling has been around for a few decades now.

There's no shame in not hating Bush. Believe it or not, there ARE some people that don't. Not many, but they do exist. For every Don Quixote, there's a Sancho Panza.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

I don't like bush but, Kerry is no different IMO. The thing is Kerry is very flip flop on the issues. The thing is though I trully think that he will win in the election because the area I live in is very strongly republican and most aren't voting for bush. The only republicans that are voting for bush again are the ones who are just voting because of the 3 words "Grand Ole Party".
These people are the ones who are very blind to see what bush is doing. The draft in 05 is just an example of what hes going to do if reelected. Not to say I like Kerry at all because I don't like him either and won't vote for him but I know bush won't win. He has done damage to the country and abused his people so the corporations can help feed their addiction to money.

[clownboy]

It's time to recognize some reality for the Kerry camp. Anytime you target the "rich" with taxes, you end up hitting everyone BUT the target. Federal taxes are not that specific, and where they are, the specificity does nothing more than create more "loopholes" to escape through.

The "rich" come in two basic flavors for the purpose of this issue - business owners/CEOs and those born to it. The latter class NEVER pays more tax than they do now, because if you manage to successfully target them, they just MOVE, taking ALL their funds (and future tax revenue) with them. The business folks can't move as easily. So if they get hit, the extra ding gets passed down through the business and their employees and customers pay the tax. Or they call it quits, step down a bracket and there's a whole lot of people out of work.

"Taxing the rich" makes a nice soundbite, but in reality it's effect is to block business growth, costs jobs and weakens the tax revenue base even further, making more taxation on the lower income brackets necessary.