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#15005185
God stud refuses at accept anthing any one will tell about thailand no matter the source.
Suck as the estimated 800,000 child prostutes.
I got that from a article published by the Borgen project.
A well known and respected world wide organization doing charity work across the globe they have been trying to help people in thailand with nutrition rabies clean water hiv and so much more.
Yet he thinks the are making it up.
Thailand has been known as a destination for child sex and lady boys for decades.
Just as he said the last excution was 2003 I think is what he said not sure so d9nt quote me on that.
But it was actually 2018 .and there are 501 waiting.

Any source link I have posted hes dismissed as made up hes right they are wrong.
Lol
Kinda reminds me of a few mobsters who testified before congress .
#15005188
@The trigger Don't let Godstud get on your nerves. He is very annoying and has been criticizing everything about me from the time I have been on here. He has learned how to offend those he disagrees with without actually violating the forum rules. He calls your ideas ignorant and stupid instead of actually calling you stupid. He is a liberal socialist atheist that you can't really reason with because he obviously hates American conservatives, especially if you are a Christian. He seems to like to troll those that he disagrees with by using this :moron:
#15005193
@blackjack21 You are absolutely clueless about Thai customs and just because some numpty posts something about the King being revered as a god, you believe it, because that's what you do. I live with the Thais, and trust me, they don't revere the King as a god. A lot of the coronation has to do with customs, which I am sure you are quite oblivious to, as you normally are.

The trigger wrote:Since 1935 Thailand has executed 326 persons, 319 by shooting (the last was shot on 11 December 2003) and seven by lethal injection (the latest on 18 June 2018). As of March 2018 [update], 510 persons remain on death row. Bang Khwang Central Prison contains the nation's primary death row, but death rows also exist in provincial prisons, for both men and women.
I said that only 7 had been executed since 2003. Your own source confirms exactly what I said. You need to learn how to comprehend what you read.

Re:Prostitution:
The last estimate done shows 150,000 prostitutes in all of Thailand. That makes YOUR estimate of 800,000 child prostitutes(which there is no source to), false. I provided a source to show this. You linked an opinion piece, with no link to where they got the information(most likely out-dated by 20+ years). Can you not do math? How many times does 800,000 fit into 150,000? The numbers this guy is quoting are from 1996, and guess what? It's not 1996.

Re: Drugs:
I live in rural Thailand. You have no source supporting this claim of 80% of the people involved in drugs. It's bullshit until you provide some evidence for it.

Re: Death Penalty:
There were 3,125 people on death row in the United States in 2013. Is that more, or less than 501?

@Hindsite mind your own business. If you can't contribute anything, then go away.

I am not a socialist. I am not a liberal.... at least not in the fucked up definition you adhere to. I do not hate American conservatives, either. You sir, are a liar.
#15005235
Godstud wrote:@Hindsite mind your own business. If you can't contribute anything, then go away.

I am not a socialist. I am not a liberal.... at least not in the fucked up definition you adhere to. I do not hate American conservatives, either. You sir, are a liar.

You addressed me as "sir". Well, that is an improvement.
Praise the Lord.
#15005287
No god stud you said the last excution was 2003. Now I will say your making things up and denying the trurh.

Now you need to get over yourself
I dont know what the last person was excuted for.
Granted if it was over drugs I would say its wrong.

If it was for murder its not a big deal . we have the death penlity in the states for some cases of murdr and I agree with it.
Please get over yourself and thailands politics and poverty and child sex trade. Accept the truth and be a man it will not hury you. By the way where are you from .
#15005293
The trigger wrote:No god stud you said the last excution was 2003. Now I will say your making things up and denying the trurh.
You are incorrect. I went back and looked.
Godstud wrote:They don't kill people for it in Thailand, either. The death penalty is on its way out, too. Only 7 people have been executed since 2003.
You can go back and look, too. I can't edit the post, either.

The trigger wrote:Please get over yourself and thailands politics and poverty and child sex trade. Accept the truth and be a man it will not hury you. By the way where are you from .
I know about Thailand's government, politics, poverty(lower than the US, incidentally- it halved in the last 15 years thanks to Thaksin) and human trafficking, which is a lot lower than it used to be(enforcement in Thailand and abroad).

Everywhere has its problems. I don't need someone who does not know the country demonizing it, and making claims based on 20+ year old information, or someone else's guesswork. If you want to know what's happening now, I will be happy to answer your questions to the best of my ability, with facts.

All the estimates on human trafficking are grossly exaggerated or complete guesswork. You have to admit that when they think there's between 20,000 to 800,000 child prostitutes, it's probably a wild guess, particularly when the estimates of prostitute numbers is so grossly wrong.

There are 123,530 sex workers in Thailand, according to a 2014 UNAIDS report. Advocacy groups put the figure at more than twice that number, including tens of thousands of migrants from neighboring Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thai ... SKCN1SL2Z0

Note: This article was made yesterday.

I am Canadian. I am semi-retired in Thailand(I have investments here, and a family).

I am happy to engage you in real conversation about Thailand, but if you only seek to attack me or Thailand I will respond appropriately. I'll do my best to at least give you accurate information, if you actually want it. Some people don't want real information, but to only confirm their bias about a country they don't understand or know almost nothing about(aside from some blog they read).

Real information: Their last King was revered for all the wonderful things he did for the people over his long reign. The current King(the son of the last one) has yet to prove himself. He was just crowned a week ago, mind you, so we'll see, won't we?

Cheers.
#15005310
So let me get this right the borgen projects info is 20 year old sorry its not . problem is you seem to deny the truth.And are unable to admit your wrong.

Edited By Moderator, user warned.

People that have sex with kids are considered the scum of the earth in american jails while in thailand its tolerated .
The borgen project said over 1 million people a year vist thailand to have sex with kids.
I can see why perverts are drawn to Thailand.

I have given you accurate information but you deny it all.
8m sorry but as you said your cant comment on American I can do the same with Thailand. And Im not attacking you. Sorry sir if my comments on your adopted nation annoy you but im posting info from links . you have yet to prove thay are not true but cla8n they are not true with no links to prove otherwise.
Canada on the other hand is a well respected nation with moral values . nice place.
While thailand is a third world poop hole .
#15005313
The trigger wrote:So let me get this right the borgen projects info is 20 year old sorry its not . problem is you seem to deny the truth.And are unable to admit your wrong.
I am not wrong. You are. It directly contradicts sources that set the total number of prostitutes in Thailand at around 150,000, by stating there are 800,000 child prostitutes. Can you do math?

The trigger wrote:Next you decided to move to a third world nation where your Canadian assets would go father..
It's not a third world nation. Educate yourself a little, please? It's a developing country, and anyone with a brain in their head lives where their quality of life is highest.

The trigger wrote:People that have sex with kids are considered the scum of the earth in american jails while in thailand its tolerated .
That's complete bullshit. Where do you get this fucked up information from? You're as likely to end up floating face-down in the Mekong River, as you are to end up in a Thai jail for 25 years. It's vile and viewed as such, by everyone.

The trigger wrote:The borgen project said over 1 million people a year vist thailand to have sex with kids.
I can see why perverts are drawn to Thailand.
More lies from that bullshit "project". I don't buy any "project" that relies on false information.

Where did they get their information from? You still have not identified that. The Borgen Project is a non-profit organization and I don't trust any information they have when they make such categorically WRONG statements, such as 800,000 child prostitutes in Thailand. If you visited here, you'd soon know what a complete fabrication that is.

If you're going to believe the lies of a stupid project who makes up statistics(or uses factually false ones), then I can't help you.

The trigger wrote:I have given you accurate information but you deny it all.
It's not accurate. It's lies. All of it. The numbers don't work. Where do they even get this information from?

The trigger wrote:you have yet to prove thay are not true but cla8n they are not true with no links to prove otherwise.

A 2004 estimate by Dr. Nitet Tinnakul of Chulalongkorn University gave a total of 2.8 million sex workers, including two million women, 20,000 adult males, and 800,000 minors under the age of 18, but the figures for women and minors were considered to be grossly inflated by most observers

According to a 2001 report by the World Health Organization: "The most reliable suggestion is that there are between 150,000 and 200,000 sex workers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

The trigger wrote:Canada on the other hand is a well respected nation with moral values . nice place.
While thailand is a third world poop hole .
:lol: OK, so you are just trolling. You never wanted to learn anything. You don't know the country and your opinion of it demonstrates supreme ignorance, and arrogance. :knife:

Please. Don't travel. You might find that the rest of the world is much better than you think and it'd destroy your opinion of 'Merica... the real shit-hole.
#15005517
What in the world makes you think I want to travel to Thailand. .
I have no dezire to travel to third world nations like thailand.Expecially with its reputation.
There are a few poop hole nations closer. Yea the foods good there . but thai reaturands are common here .
I have no desire to go there and deal with the corruption the adult child and lady boy sex trade . get robber or scamed. i dont do drugs .
Its one of the last places Id go.
I much perfer france or spa8n or england. Perhaps russia or Argentina or peru as i have freinds there.
#15005541
The trigger wrote:What in the world makes you think I want to travel to Thailand.
It might be good for you to travel more than 5 miles from the shack you were born in. It might broaden your horizons, or even teach you that what you read is not always everything there is about any place.

The trigger wrote:I have no desire to go there and deal with the corruption the adult child and lady boy sex trade . get robber or scamed. i dont do drugs .
Yes, and all of USA is drugs, prostitution, and gambling. I know, because I read about Las Vegas, and Baltimore, where more people are killed in a month than in a year in Thailand. USA is a piece of shit floating in a bucket of piss, what with their opioid problems, poor education(you are displaying that admirably) and constant war-mongering. See how easy it is to generalize about somewhere? :D

Good idea. Stay away from Thailand. The less shitty tourists they get, the better.
#15005544
I don’t really see the value of this thread. But I haven’t really seen the value of the new poster with the tricky handle either ..
#15005558
There is no value. This new poster is just trolling and making himself out to be just another American who judges without knowing.

I tried to make it of value, by attempting to inform him, but it was casting pearls before swine. Not even facts can dismiss belief, no matter how wrong it is.
#15005722
no you didn't try to inform me you basically said all my links were wrong . They are not.
I posted links that not only suppoeted my claims but proved them to be accurate .
you did denyed my claims and said I was making it up.
when links were posted you denyed they were true .I suggested you post links to support your facts what you posted one or 2 lol.

Next I made it plain that America has many of the same issues as most nations do.
however thailand is indeed a a third world nation , while America is the number one super power in the world.
you bet it has its problems.

now I have been to your home nation Im a fisherman and hunter.I like Canada its a nice nation.
I even dated a young lady from canada Years ago .

If you have issues with America please feel free to start a thread about it. As you said your free to comment but dont like it much when others do.
#15005727
no you didn't try to inform me you basically said all my links were wrong . They are not.
I posted links that not only suppoeted my claims but proved them to be accurate .
You did not post "links". That's false.You posted one link. It was to the Borgen project, and they didn't cite where they got their information from, so the source is suspect, at best. I found at least 2 sources that completely disputed the fabricated numbers from the Borgen Project, which based it's numbers not on fact, but on one guys estimate, which was widely disputed by people on the ground. No one knows exactly how many there are, but 1 million? No. You'd only have to know the country a little to know that this number is even outrageous.

The trigger wrote:you did denyed my claims and said I was making it up.
when links were posted you denyed they were true .I suggested you post links to support your facts what you posted one or 2 lol. Your math is wrong.
They are false, because the numbers are "made up". How do you get 800,000 out of 200,000? Cmon... :?: The number was one made up from 1996. Things have changed a LOT since then... mainly the poverty rate, which was around 45% in 1996. It's now around 10%(I provided a source for this, below).

The trigger wrote:Next I made it plain that America has many of the same issues as most nations do.
however thailand is indeed a a third world nation , while America is the number one super power in the world.
you bet it has its problems.
You don't know what a third world nation is, nor do you know what a developing one is, so you should quit while you are ahead. The term "third world", merely applied(during the Cold War) to any country that was not Western(1st world), or Communist(2nd world). It had nothing to do with poverty, which, BTW is lower in Thailand(10.5%) than in the USA(12.3%).
Poverty headcount ratio at national poverty line (% of population) in Thailand was reported at 10.5 % in 2014, according to the World Bank collection of development indicators, compiled from officially recognized sources.
https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/p ... -data.html

The trigger wrote:now I have been to your home nation Im a fisherman and hunter.I like Canada its a nice nation.
I even dated a young lady from canada Years ago .
Good for you. Canada's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Too cold.

The trigger wrote:If you have issues with America please feel free to start a thread about it. As you said your free to comment but dont like it much when others do.
If my sole purpose of posting about America is to malign it and post ignorant shit about, I hope you at least defend your country like I have my adopted one.

I have never set out to do anything here, except inform you about what is true, and what is NOT true about Thailand. The outrageous claims that child prostitution is acceptable, flies in the face of facts(they closed down a few bars in a city nearby, because they raided them and found girls under the age of 20(which is the legal age to illegally engage in prostitution... I know- weird). Drinking age is 19.

That there are 800,000 child prostitutes in Thailand is also a ridiculous claim. It's made by people with an agenda to get funding and make money. Even where I live, if a person's found to be doing that sort of thing, they get reported to the police and they soon round him up and ship him back to his home country to serve jail time(if he even makes it that far without getting beat to death). That foreigners(from everywhere) are the ones doing this sort of thing, is a black eye to the people in Thailand who are here for the culture, people, food(you haven't had real Thai food in USA), quality of life, and the tropical paradise that it is.

Yes, Thailand is a democracy. It was a Democracy on hold for a couple years. It was on hold because of a military junta, but the King always makes sure that even these obey the Constitution(1932), and so it was pretty much business as usual for most Thais. They've had a lot of these juntas, and so it really wasn't something scary like world news media made it out to be.

The old King was revered and loved(not worshiped as a god, like some uninformed people will tell you). The new King has yet to prove himself, as he was a bit of a playboy in his younger days. Thais love customs, so you'll see his face everywhere, as well, since a Thai custom is to have pictures of the royal family in their homes.

So there you go. Some facts. If you just want to ask questions or make statements and expect me not refute the bullshit and lies of the biased, then I am afraid I cannot comply with your request.

To be perfectly honest, if you never visited the "naughty bits", you'd only see a Thailand where women dress conservatively, and where they are, in general, quite a moral and conservative people.
#15005805
Yes god stud chikd prostution is illegal here but we dont have a million tourists a year comming for prostution reasons .
Whats wrong with you . cant you accept the truth that thailand is one of the number one destinations for child sex and lady boys .
#15005815
You’re not welcome here trigger. You are being deliberately provocative and add nothing to PoFo. Have you no manners? You wouldn’t walk into someone’s home and be so overtly rude; and make no mistake, you’re being very rude. Why waltz into our online community and try to upset people for no good reason?
#15005820
Well ness I never been acused of being provocative before.Is that bad in your book .
Men such as trump winston Churchill plato Hannibal and the great elmer fudd were all provocative .
Ive been called a flat foot a big a racist and about every foul name you can cone up with.

I suggest you sit down in a chair and call me names for a bit it might help you feel better .

O male no mistake I walked into many peoples home and been rude expecially when I was there and caught them doing things illegal. Normally it went down hill.from there.

Its just as much my online community as it is yours or I excluded for some reason such as being honest .

Its really odd that I have indeed got in more trouble in life for being honest then if I had lied . odd how that works isnt it
Yes I have mannors lots of them. I open doors for women give them my umbrella if its raining pull out chairs for them. Thank people when they do something nice . Tell them to piss off if they dont.etc.

Whats wrong with me. Thats a long list of physical ailment I don't wish to discuss . o wait your talking mentally. Well nothing young lady. Im getting older and less tolerant when i hit my 60s .Expecially with the under 30 croud who think they know every thing.

I recall not that long ago a young man had slapped his woman walking on the side walk sever people stopped me and told me about it
When I stopped him he explained how I didnt see it happen she wouldnt say it happened and he onew his rights and t9ld me to **** off .well I think he found the next 30 seconds extremly educating .
And I bet that night was just a true learning experience for him . I was nice and thats what was wrong with me then.
#15005822
The trigger wrote:Yes god stud chikd prostution is illegal here but we dont have a million tourists a year comming for prostution reasons
Whats wrong with you . cant you accept the truth that thailand is one of the number one destinations for child sex and lady boys .
That statement is patently and unequivocably untrue. You talk about not calling you a liar, but then you say completely untrue things. What are you then, a bullshitter? An asshole?

Are you aware that Thailand has some of the best beaches in the world? Are you aware of the history here, that spans back father than even the founding of the US of A? Do you know anything about Thailand besides what you read in some cunt's religious blog?

10 Good Reasons to Visit Thailand

10. Friendly people
Every time I visit Thailand I get blown away about the hospitality there. The people are both genuine and friendly and want to do the best for you. No wonder why Thailand is called "The Land of Smiles."

9 BUDGET DESTINATION
You can find luxury resorts here as well, but if you stay and eat with the locals your money will last for a long, long time.

8. Amazing culture
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About 95 percent of the population in Thailand are Buddhists, and that shows everywhere. The temples, how people are dressed etc. It's a wonderful experience.

7. Backpacking
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So many islands to discover, so many nice people to meet - this is the perfect backpacking country. You can easily take a long tail boat to to the paradise island and camp there. The costs of moving around are both easy and cheap.

6. Underwater
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Thailand is great for diving and snorkeling, and there are tons of diving trips around the country to choose from.

5. Shopping
You can get taylor made dresses and suits to very low cost in Thailand. There is also many markeds to visit with cheap and exiting products you probably don't have back home. If you are looking for luxury brands with better prices than back home, then Bangkok is the place for you.

4. Great adventures
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Canoeing with wild monkeys, bath in waterfalls and swim with sharks, dolphins and turtles. In Thailand there is no limit of what you can experience, so for us who not like lying on the beach day after day there is endless excursions to join.

3. Thai food
Many think that thai food is the best food in the world. I don't disagree, and on top of that, the food is very cheap.

2. Wildlife
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I have met wild varans, snakes and monkeys to name a few. It doesn't matter if you are in the forest or in the sea, In Thailand you are always close to wildlife and interactions with animals.

1. Dream beaches
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The beaches on the islands around Thailand is even better in the real life. Often white sandy beaches made of coral shells. Some islands are dessert, and some has a native population. There is really no point of waiting - order your tickets to Thailand now, you want regret it,

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My favorite beach of them all; Ta Chai Island in the Andaman sea

Hapla beach is a hidden pearl at Ko Kho Khao island. Old authentic Thailand - you can also rent a bungalow there.

You can still see signs from the Tsunami in 2014 along the Thai beaches

The Thai government let this gipsy tribe have this Island for them selves. It's located near Surin Islands in the Andaman sea. They live of what the island and the sea gives them. It's wonderful to find such genuine places without the daily stress. I don't think I have never seen happier kids either

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/10-good- ... _n_9086386

Not a Ladyboy or prostitute mentioned. Your mind is just in the gutter, @The trigger.

@ness31 QFT.
Last edited by Godstud on 19 May 2019 12:44, edited 2 times in total.
#15005823
I don’t even think you are human trigger, so perhaps this is more your domain than mine. Still, you purport to be human, so perhaps try harder to emulate our social norms. Good day.

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