ingliz wrote:But you can look at the raw data used in the MAC report in the sources cited.
So what's the problem?
Well, you would think so, but try searching for either the raw data or other sources, you will find that, since the last Labour government left office, the Tory cuts have meant that data is no longer updated online & that it is quickly archived away from the searching eyes of people like myself.
I used to regularly read the data, for instance, records from National Insurance contributions are collected monthly by the DWP, which is then used by the ONS, it is there that the 'laundering' process of the raw data begins.
The data is analysed into data sets, in order to quantify the differing groups of contributors, such as country of birth, sex. age, how long migrants have been in the country & what benefits they claim, for instance, in 2008, 6.8% of migrants were claiming DLA WITHIN 6 Months of being in the country & that is ONLY just one of the benefits that they may be claiming.
There is also unemployment, social security, educational, advice centre cost, housing, health, as well as others.
Factoring all of the cost, against the contribution by those migrants & on balance I contest the government claim that there is a benefit to mass migration as we have experienced it in the time since 1997.
Economically, look at the increase in the working age population since 1997, compare the total working age population, divide the GDP from 1997 each year by the working age population & compare that to the growth since then.
In real terms, growth has rarely, if ever, exceeded the inflation rate, YET, if that migration was 'good' for the country, the GDPPP would have risen proportionately to the increase in that population of workers.
The FACT is, real wages have declined, because productivity has fallen.
That is a DIRECT influence of rising working age migration, productivity depends on increasing productive output, using FEWER people, NOT increasing them, as the situation with rising migration causes & brings about lower levels of wealth.
NOT only has productivity fallen, the government's cost of that increased population has risen, even though, as individuals, we have lost out.
If we had an increase of 10% in the working age population from migration, our output, along with the increase in GDP & consequent increase in personal prosperity,ought to equate with that percentage increase of available labour - it doesn't, which is why most of us are poorer.
NOT only that, government fiscal & debt management have made our situation even more dire.
No statistics can hide the inflationary effects of migration, which cause more demand, without the necessary productivity increases with which we can pay for those price increases & of course the government has \ will have increased the national debt by FOUR TIMES what it was under Labour, by the time of the next election.
So, no, I am deeply sceptical of anything that any government says.