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#14388840
Maas wrote:no, recent history are historic facts.


not really, using a term "recent history" is a logical fallacy, and this term is used by ignorant people who lack substantive arguments, but they don't lack hate and prejudices.

I wouldn't qualify the Serbian ethnic army comitting genocide as pathetic.


Well, that's completely untrue - that's a lie, what you claim here. No genocide were committed, but in WWII over Serbs by your Nazi-lovers.

But, pathetic is your argument in the shape of " a recent history"


That might also qualify as recent history, but to claim that Croats of today are like the generation of (some) Croats of WWII, is a racist opinion that is untrue. Guilty by association is a fail argument. The guilty by association for Serbs doesn't fly... because they are the same people who previously comitted genocide. Ergo, you're just vomitting up apologetic remarks in attempt to make Serbia, lead by monsters who comitted genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia, as the victems. They are not the victems.


so, recent history doesn't count for Croats/Albanians/Muslims, but it counts for Serbs
Even though Croats/Albanians/Muslims committed holocaust against Serbs, and even though they were the most raging Nazis that even disgusted Germans
You are really pathetic, and a real racist.


You say that, eventhough it was not NATO but the Serbs who put people in concentration camps and comitted genocide.
What a joke of a comment.


Well, Croats started with concentration camps, murdering, terrorism on the soil of Yugoslavia, and Croats altogether with NATO-trainers committed genocide over Serbs in 1992-1995. And Croatia is now in NATO, right?
You Nazis stick together, right?


It's exceptionally normal to think that specific people who commit genocide must be hated.
And it's a fact that Serbs / Serbia had no shortage of those kinds of people who headed their country/army.
But apperantly you look the other way because they are Serbs, while Noemon looks the other way because they are orthodox.
And you are trying to make others to look the other way as well.
But it's asking way too ask others to look the other way for what some Serbs/Serbia did.
It's dubious you can not understand that, and instead of that conclude it must be because we hate Serbs for being Serbs


Well, you do hate Serbs for being Serbs. The only genocide committed in the Balkans, was a genocide committed by Croat/Muslims over Serbs, and yet
I don't see you hate those peoples
So, something is wrong with your theories which can only be explained by your racism and hatred towards Serbs, which is OK with me - I have seen plenty of you.
You just need to stop trolling , and openly admit it without wrapping up your hate in shallow and empty quasi-arguments like are: "recent history, non-existent genocides" etc etc
Be a brave racist not a pathetic coward [/quote]

Maas wrote:WTF, Noemon...
The biggest humanitarian catastrophe since WW2 in Europe was the massacre of thousands of civilians when the Greek flag flew over their houses. There really is no question about it. And so NATO wasn't going to give the same Serbs the oppertunity to do that again. It would be unforgivable to stand idle by and let that happen again, and so it becomes morally totally justified for an intervention.


Interesting, how you hate Greeks for a flag that was kilometers away from the place where, actually the most prominent killers were: a Croat (Drazen Erdemovic), a Slovenian (Franz Kos) and a Muslim (Zijad Zigic), and you don't hate actual killers. I suppose, because they are not Orthodox, right?
Kind of chauvinistic, right?

Besides, the biggest humanitarian catastrophe since WW2 in Europe is the joint Croat-NATO action of killing of hundreds Serbs and ethnic eradication of 75% of Serb population from Croatia in 1995. (Your Nazis, didn't even spare lives of handicapped elders http://www.bt.dk/node/13665041 )
#14388842
I've just finished Fool's Crusade by Diana Johnstone. The West's behavior in destroying Yugoslavia was appalling. It wasn't (mostly) a conscious plan, but an adding up of various national interests, of media bias and of hypocrisy.

In particular:
* Germany's recognition of Slovenia and Croatia, thus accepting the principle that unilateral changes of borders were legitimate and any defense of the Yugoslav State was "Serb aggression." Ethnic civil war was then inevitable as minorities found themselves trapped in the "wrong State."
* Plain double standards in tolerating Bosniak and Croatian ethnic cleansing (200,000 in the Krajina), while absolutely hystericizing any Serbian action as "genocide" (including some outright fabrications by Western governments and media).
* An odd idealization of Bosnia as a multicultural paradise (and illegitimacy of Yugoslavia as a multinational State).
* The total illegitimacy of the ICTY as an absolutely politicized and semi-privatized tribunal, funded by Western governments and acting in their interests. (Milosevic is held responsible for all crimes, Croatian and Bosniak political leaders are presumed innocent, NATO powers are obviously un-triable because... they're paying for it.)

I feel very sorry for the suffering and defamation the Serbs have suffered from all this. Really this could happen in any country. Milosevic was a democratically-elected leader, of an emerging (therefore imperfect), vulnerable and insecure country, acting largely defensively. The Serbs were, in the main, simply trying to defend the integrity of their country and the lives of their people. There is no evidence the ethnic Serbs' local aggressions and ethnic cleansings were worse than those of Croats or Bosniaks.

The destruction of Yugoslavia is a fascinating test-case of the globalist mechanisms that operate today still:
* Transnational finance ruins a state through debt-fuelled consumption and speculation, when the party ends, ethnic tensions are exacerbated.
* Ethnic tensions are exacerbated by Euro-American-Gulf Arab axis (with official and unofficial military and other aid), any retaliation by the target country serving as pretext for overt Euro-American aggression.
* Western media, with the interests and prejudices of its owners and employees, is massive, with a huge distorting effect.
* The economic chaos, war, and incentives (for good Western PR or simple cold hard cash), tend to lead local elites to (enthusiastically or not), transnationalize by opening their borders to Western finance and privatize their corporations, thus losing all economic autonomy for the Euro-American-Gulf Arab (or "globalist") system. This borderlessness can in some cases itself feed debt slavery and financial speculation, renewing the infernal cycle.
* Generally, the pattern is: destruction wherever possible of any State which is effectively independent from and can rival Euro-American-Gulf Arab power. Sometimes this is conscious and explicit (e.g. the Bush-era plans to marginalize France/Russia, destroy all enemy regimes in the Middle East), but it often seems to happen in a kind of unconscious, structural way.

Maas: Interestingly enough, many of the Europeans and American neocons and "liberal interventionists" that are unconditional supporters of Israel also supported this war. It's largely the same globalist cliques - then as now close to the circles of politico-media power - with the same interests and prejudices. You may want to explore the connections: Their boundless hypocrisy on Israel was equally present in Yugoslavia.

As an example: I am still waiting for Bernard-Henri Lévy and Daniel Cohn-Bendit to call for the bombing of Israel and overthrow of “the dictator Netanyahu” over the “genocide” that was Operation Cast Lead. They didn’t show such restraint in pushing for the 1999 bombing of Serbia (in violation of international law) in response to the alleged, much smaller and still unclear “Racak massacre.”
#14389393
Independent_Srpska wrote:not really, using a term "recent history" is a logical fallacy and this term is used by ignorant people who lack substantive arguments, but they don't lack hate and prejudices.

No it's not. It's widely used... from BBC to ebay and its just like a term like ancient history. And your arguments (your ignorent, a hater, prejudices) why its not a term is just a total joke.

maas wrote:I wouldn't qualify the Serbian ethnic army comitting genocide as pathetic.
No genocide were committed
You whining that Serbs did not commit genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia only shows how extremistic your view is to refuse the general accepted history.

so, recent history doesn't count for Croats/Albanians/Muslims, but it counts for Serbs

Indeed. Because those people from WWII do no longer play a roll in our society.... because they mostly all dead. Unlike the Serbs who were still at the head of their government and army.

maas wrote:You say that, eventhough it was not NATO but the Serbs who put people in concentration camps and comitted genocide.
What a joke of a comment.

Well, Croats started ...........

Don't go childishly name NATO a bunch of nazi's, when it's (some of) the Serbs who put people in concentration camps and comitted genocide. To deflect that Croats bla bla bla.. it doesn't change how that makes Serbs looks vs Nato.

The only genocide committed in the Balkans, was a genocide committed by Croat/Muslims over Serbs,

You whining that Serbs did not commit genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia only shows how extremistic your view is to refuse the general accepted history. And all them personal attacks only show how weak your "arguments" all are.
#14389610
Maas wrote:No it's not. It's widely used... from BBC to ebay and its just like a term like ancient history. And your arguments (your ignorent, a hater, prejudices) why its not a term is just a total joke.


OK, then - recent history testifies the NATO nazis committed several aggressions, international law violations on the false pretexts or false-flag attacks.
Especially in the Balkans.
It's pathetic, that there are still brainwashed individuals, namely in Holland, who believe NATO propaganda.

You whining that Serbs did not commit genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia only shows how extremistic your view is to refuse the general accepted history.


So, genocide was committed in Kosovo?


Indeed. Because those people from WWII do no longer play a roll in our society.... because they mostly all dead.


They played role in early 90s, and, especially, their genocide played role in 90s, too. And it was a "recent history"...so, you should be more consistent, only if your racism would allow you.


Don't go childishly name NATO a bunch of nazi's, when it's (some of) the Serbs who put people in concentration camps and comitted genocide. To deflect that Croats bla bla bla.. it doesn't change how that makes Serbs looks vs Nato.


You can cry out as loud as you are able to , but it is not going to change the fact the Croats started with attacks and concentration camps.
NATO helped Croats to commit genocidal action of eradication of 75% of Serbs from Croatia. It's a simple fact.


You whining that Serbs did not commit genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia only shows how extremistic your view is to refuse the general accepted history. And all them personal attacks only show how weak your "arguments" all are.


'generally accepted recent history' in your pathetic racist mindset is laughable. Pity you can't visualize it - that would be a hilarious parody
#14389813
Independent_Srpska wrote:OK, then - recent history testifies the NATO nazis committed several aggressions, international law violations on the false pretexts or false-flag attacks.

It still is that Serbs/Serbia has a recent history of committing genocide and ethnic cleansing. Nato took that into account to justify their aggression vs Serbs/Serbia when they started their latest war. And all what Serbs/Serbia had to do to avoid that is pull out their army full with warcriminals out of Kosovo or else get bombed. So it could have been totally avoided. But them Serbian warcriminals picked to be bombed by the worlds strongest military alliance.

Maas wrote:You whining that Serbs did not commit genocide all over ex-Yugoslavia only shows how extremistic your view is to refuse the general accepted history.
So, genocide was committed in Kosovo?

I told you before... it would be unforgivable for NATO and the world that they would stand idle by and let the same Serbs commit genocide again. Starts to be just unreasonable and pure ill will if you can not spot the logic in there.
#14389872
Maas wrote:And all what Serbs/Serbia had to do to avoid that is pull out their army full with warcriminals out of Kosovo or else get bombed. So it could have been totally avoided.


Get a grip on reality. Both your ignorance and your lies have already been addressed. Your hypocrisy combined with your attitude is simply annoying.

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wiki wrote:The Yeltsin agreement included Milošević's allowing international representatives to set up a mission in Kosovo-Metohija to monitor the situation there. This was the Kosovo Diplomatic Observer Mission (KDOM) that began operations in early July. The American government welcomed this part of the agreement, but denounced the initiative's call for a mutual cease fire. Rather, the Americans demanded that the Serbian-Yugoslavian side should cease fire "without linkage ... to a cessation in terrorist activities".

All through June and into mid-July, the KLA maintained its advance. KLA surrounded Peć, Đakovica, and had set up an interim capital in the town of Mališevo (north of Orahovac). The KLA troops infiltrated Suva Reka, and the northwest of Priština. They moved on to the Belacevec coal pits and captured them in late June, threatening energy supplies in the region. Their tactics as usual focused mainly on guerilla and mountain warfare, and harassing and ambushing Yugoslav forces and Serb police patrols.

The tide turned in mid-July when the KLA captured Orahovac. On 17 July 1998, two close-by villages to Orahovac, Retimlije and Opteruša, were also captured. Similarly, less systematic events took place in Orahovac and the larger Serb-populated village of Velika Hoča. The Orthodox monastery of Zociste three miles (5 km) from Orehovac—famous for the relics of the Saints Kosmas and Damianos and revered also by local Albanians—was robbed, its monks deported to a KLA prison camp, and, while empty, the monastery church and all its buildings were leveled to the ground by mining. This led to a series of Serb and Yugoslav offensives which would continue into the beginning of August.

A new set of KLA attacks in mid-August triggered Yugoslavian operations in south-central Kosovo south of the Priština-Peć road.


noemon wrote:Milosevic agreed to a cease-fire, which saw the advance of the KLA army further north instead of an actual cease-fire. By your and western hypocritical standards Serbia should have left these Albanian terrorists simply do whatever they wanted without any repercussions.
#14389882
noemon wrote:Get a grip on reality.

In my reality, the Albanians did things that they shouldn't have done. In your flawed reality, what some Albanians did is the only thing what happened.

Your hypocrisy combined with your attitude is simply annoying.

The only thing you probably find annoying is that I keep on reminding that the Serbs are responsible for mass executions of civilians in previous wars all over ex-Yugoslavia. And those Serbs were the same Serbs starting a new campaign of ethnic cleansing which would eventually lead to new stories of genocide in Kosovo. You also might find it very annoying that I remind you the biggest genocide in ex-Yugoslavia was committed by Serbs while the Greek flag flew over the houses of their victims.... to the total humiliation of Greece that they got associated with that. And so what a total joke to say I got no grip on reality, when it's you who ignore fasts amounts of history.
#14389994
Maas wrote:It still is that Serbs/Serbia has a recent history of committing genocide and ethnic cleansing. Nato took that into account to justify their aggression vs Serbs/Serbia when they started their latest war. And all what Serbs/Serbia had to do to avoid that is pull out their army full with warcriminals out of Kosovo or else get bombed. So it could have been totally avoided. But them Serbian warcriminals picked to be bombed by the worlds strongest military alliance.


You, lamely and laughably,putting non-existent genocide in context with Kosovo all the time, yet you don't have enough courage to say it clearly
So, again:"Did genocide over Albanians happened in Kosovo?"
And just a reality check:"Did genocide over Serbs happened in Kosovo?"

Well, chronologically speaking Albanians have recent history (and far history for that matter) of collaboration with Nazis, ethnic cleansing of Serbs, committing genocides over Serbs.
NATO nazis from the other side have recent history of committing war crimes on the false pretext and false flag attacks.
All that combined, with the sovereignty of Serbia, international law, UN charter, human history and civilization exposes and explains your insanity as a consequence of pure racism and hatred to Serbs.



I told you before... it would be unforgivable for NATO and the world that they would stand idle by and let the same Serbs commit genocide again. Starts to be just unreasonable and pure ill will if you can not spot the logic in there.


I suppose, all Nazis need Krystal Nacht or WMDs or non-existent humanitarian catastrophe or 'genocide' or 'sarin attacks' - I can only hope, that you will find courage, one day, to stop drumming your nazi propaganda.

As proved by the reality in the field (which you have no honesty enough to comprehend ), but you can read it in the transcript from the UK parliament, terrorist organizations of Albanians in Kosovo were committing ethnic cleansing and were committing crimes more than Yugoslav authorities.
Then USA/UK/NATO invented false flag attack called Racak (January 99)
Then NATO started war crimes over Yugoslavia (March 99) in order to help terrorist organizations (officially recognized as a terrorist by the US) of Albanians and their fight for secession
You were whining about "mass graves" in Kosovo. But it was proved victims in those mass graves were alive in May 99, and their deaths are a direct consequence of NATO bombing and inflaming the conflict. The same goes for the alleged humanitarian catastrophe, and staged (by the CNN) movement of 800.000 Albanians (which never happened).

So, basically, your limited brain is saying to us:
- the Albanians who were provoking authorities (in late 98 and early 1999) and committing crimes and committing ethnic cleansing (proved by the UK Parliament) had to be protected to continue their crimes and ethnic cleansing, but your NATO nazis didn't have reason for aggression, so they invented false flag attacks (in January 1999) and they started aggression in March 1999 to prevent "ethnic cleansing of Albanians" which never happened and after all that insanity --> you justify Nazi aggression in March 1999, using the victims of fightings that happened in May 1999?
You seriously should get a grip with reality or at least try to seek professional help.
#14390169
Independent_Srpska wrote:You, lamely and laughably,putting non-existent genocide in context

The genocide committed by Serbs all over ex-Yugoslavia is verry much the context.
The same warcrminals were heading towards Kosovo for a new race war.
And EU / NATO were not going to stand idle by again.
#14390235
that's all you could come up with? Sorry, Mass matey, you are losing it completely. Hate has eaten your brain.
You became a waste of space.

However, exactly 15 years since "brave" NATO fascists attacked passenger train, Belgrade-Thessaloniki, killing at least 13 people.

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This is the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, hit and destroyed by NATO-fascists. 3 Chinese officials got murdered , 20 injured.

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NATO-fascists "protecting" Albanians in Kosovo by bombing a bridge 500km away from Kosovo.

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#14390238
Independent_Srpska wrote:killing at least 13 people.


Just 13? That doesn't come close to the many many many mass graves the Serbs filled up with the innocent civilians they executed. Besides, Serbia choose to recieve those bombs from sending their Serbs who committed genocide previously, to rage war in Kosovo.
#14390244
April 11, 1999 - NATO-fascists, like Nazi-fascist in 1941 - bomb Serb civilians on Easter.

Village Merdare was bombed by cluster-bombs.
A pregnant woman, Marija Tosovic, was seriously injured. In the attack she lost her husband and 11-months old daughter.

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Destroyed hospital "Dragisa Misovic" in Belgrad (May 20, 1999)

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#14390386
Sorry, Mass, you lost it - I hope you realize your drooling over dead Serbs and idiotic justification of crimes the NATO fascists committed over civilians (including children and pregnant women) is nothing but a mental sickness.

NATO-murderers bombed Montenegrin village of Murino on April 30, 1999.
NATO-fascists killed 6 persons (3 kids - Julija Brudar (10), Olivera Maksimovic (13) and Miroslav Knezevic (13) )

Father of murdered Miroslav with the photo of his late son.

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Little Teodora (a sister of murdered Julija), who was 50m behind her sister on the day NATO-fascists murdered these kids, drew this drawing one year later in her first class in the school.
It's her memory of the event, it shows a bridge in Murino and spots where kids were murdered....

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Local library got its share of NATO-madness

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#14390393
One day Serbia will liberate all of Yugoslavia from the NATO puppet regimes and the NATO colaborators will get the fair trial that they deserve before getting the sentance they they deserve.
#14390811
Decky wrote:One day Serbia will liberate all of Yugoslavia from the NATO puppet regimes and the NATO colaborators will get the fair trial that they deserve before getting the sentance they they deserve.


We, certainly, do hope so!

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A nice deconstruction of the NATO (USA+European puppets) imperialism.

NATO bombing of Yugoslavia: Peace vs. Interventionism and Imperialism



The Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals, the Serbian Host Society, the Club of Generals and Admirals of Serbia and Veterans Association of Serbia (SUBNOR), in coordination with the World Peace Council, on 22 and 23 March 2014 held the International Conference "Global Peace vs. Global Interventionism and Imperialism". The Conference was held on the occasion of the 15th anniversary of NATO’s armed aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). The motto of the Conference was "Not to Forget". The following is the closing statement of the forum which was submitted to the Voice of Russia by the Former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović .


More than 500 scientists, experts and public persons from the areas of the international relations and security, from 50 countries of Europe and the world took part in the work of the Conference.

Participants of the Conference paid tribute to victims of the 78-day bombardment and laid wreaths on memorials. They honored all the victims of the illegal NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro and expressed their deep respect for former Yugoslav Popular Army, Federal Government, President Slobodan Milosevic and all heroic resistant fighters. We also must remember the victims of the NATO aggression subsequent to 1999, ongoing persecution of those political and military leaders who defended the country and who were sent to illegal Hague Tribunal including president Milosevic and others, who died there. Considering this Tribunal as illegal as a tool of NATO propaganda and political blackmailing, the participants demand its dissolution.

The debate unfolded in a constructive and tolerant dialogue regarding most important aspects and problems concerning the international peace and security. The presentations mainly focused on how to preserve global peace and find the ways to stop global interventionism, destabilization of certain countries and provoking the crises all over the world, which undermine the international legal and political world order and pushes the world to the edge of a major confrontation.

The participants analyzed the causes and consequences of NATO aggression in 1999, not only for Serbia and the Balkans but also its global consequences for peace and security in Europe and the world. Further to this, participants of the Conference have agreed as follows:

- NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) of March 1999 was a war imposed against an independent, sovereign European state, in gross violation of the fundamental principles of the international law, most notably, the UN Charter and the Helsinki Final Act. This was the aggression committed without consent the UN Security Council. Hence it is a crime against peace and humanity, and the turning point towards the global interventionism, the practice of gross violation of the international legal order, and the negation of role of the UN. Subsequently it has been used as the model of interventionism in a number of other cases such as in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Mali and others.

- The leading Western powers, the USA, the UK, France, Germany, followed by the rest of NATO Members, 19 in all, devised a whole new arsenal of euphemisms in a bid to attribute any possible shred of legitimacy to this crime against peace and humanity. So-called "humanitarian intervention" was a cover for indiscriminate killings of civilians in Serbia including children, disabled and senior citizens, for the destruction of the economy, infrastructure, including schools, hospitals, passenger trains and houses. Use of missiles with depleted uranium has contaminated natural environment thus triggering grave and far-reaching consequences for the health of current and future generations.

- Since this is a crime against peace and humanity and a gross violation of the basic provisions of the international law, NATO Member States bear full legal responsibility for the aggression, including liability for the inflicted damage on the order of more than USD 100 billion, as well as responsibility for the use of weapons with depleted uranium and other illicit ordnances of mass destruction. Serbia has the right to initiate the proceedings before the competent international forums against NATO Alliance and all of its member states participating in the aggression, for the purpose of exercising the right to war damage compensation to Serbia and Montenegro as well as to individuals who suffered from aggression.

- Armed aggression has continued by employing other, non-military means. This was reflected in the violent change of power in the October 5, 2000 coup, which was initiated, funded and supported by NATO Member States; in all kind of blackmails and threats aimed at making Serbia denounce its state sovereignty in Kosovo and Metohija as its historical, cultural and civilization heartland; in ignoring UN Security Council Resolution 1244 guaranteeing sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia. Eventually, this led to unlawful and unconstitutional unilateral separation of Kosovo and Metohija in 2008 which was followed by formal recognition by most NATO member countries. The 1999 US NATO aggression grossly violated the UN Charter, 1970 Declaration on principles of International law, Helsinki Final Act, Paris Charter for a New Europe, five Security Council resolutions in 1998-2008, including resolutions 1244 and 1785.

- Immediately after the end of the aggression, a large USA military base has been established in Kosovo and Metohija, "Camp Bondsteel", the first and crucial ring in the chain of the new USA bases in Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, the Czech Republic, and other Easter European countries. NATO aggression against Yugoslavia actually accelerated the arms race and militarization of Europe and implementation of US/NATO/EU strategy of "Eastern expansion".

- Aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (FRY) launched in March 1999 has been serving as a blueprint for global USA/NATO/EU interventionism. In practice, this translates the USA, NATO and the West discretion to intervene militarily or otherwise, as they choose to suite their economic or strategic interests. Toppling legally elected governments and replacing them by hand-picked, pawn regimes, has become part and parcel of so called "democratization process".

- NATO has always operated as an aggressive military alliance, serving expansion and of imperialistic and neo-colonial objectives of the leading Western powers. The entire experience so far indicates that NATO strategy of global interventionism leaves behind a chaos in international relations, gigantic human casualties, divisions, and long-lasting misery and anguish in all countries and regions which have become immediate victims of such policy.

- NATO is responsible for devastation of the international legal order, for the degradation of the UN, instigating a new arms race, militarization of Europe, destabilization and inducing crises in individual countries and regions all over the world. Therefore, NATO strategy goes against the goals of peace and security, contravenes the democratic and civilization values, and violates the fundamental human rights. Such an Alliance is not a place for peaceful countries who see their interests in compliance of the international law and the UN system. This is why participants of the Conference pleaded for the dissolution of NATO as a relic of the Cold War, for disengaging in policy of free interventionism, and for the respect of freedom, independence and equality of all countries and nations.

- Exporting democracy and dictating cultural and civilization patterns has become a common approach of all Western powers, primarily of the USA, in their aspiring to govern the world pursuant to their own standards and in line with their self-serving interests. The imposition of such cultural and civilization patterns is an act of violence against reality that almost invariably results in conflicts, internal disorders, and deeper fragmentations and divisions; over time, this is prone to undermine the peace in the world, and presents a perfect excuse for external military interference. This model has created the so-called "colored revolutions" in Georgia, Venezuela and Ukraine and high jacked "Arab Spring revolution", which managed to devastate and turn the clock back for several decades, such as: Libya, Egypt and Syria.

- The strategy of interventionism involves several motives and purposes. These include the control over natural and developmental resources, reallocation of resources, and geopolitical reconfiguration of the world, against and at the expense of the predetermined key geopolitical adversary. This is how the USA/NATO/EU staged the crisis in Ukraine, whose end is still nowhere in sight. One can say that the Ukrainian crisis is the single most dangerous threat to the peace since the end of the Cold War. Instead of acknowledging Ukraine as a natural connection between Russia and Europe, the West chose to interfere, by artificially dislocating it from its natural cultural, civilization, and geopolitical environment and drawing it westwards. In doing so, the West paid no attention at all that the action could lead to internal conflict within Ukraine and that it would put at risk Russia’s vital interests. This dangerous geopolitical game played by America, NATO and the EU against Russia, as a proxy war at the expense of Ukraine under a "fine" but fake excuse of being waged for the benefit of the Ukrainians and their democratic social structure, has completely disregarded the effects of such policy against the interests of Ukraine, its people, the peace, and security in Europe and the world. Participants of the Conference advocated for a peaceful political solution free of interference and external pressures, that is, a solution that will guarantee its peoples will, and respect its role of a bridge between the East and the West. Such solution implies abandonment of the pernicious "Eastern expansion" which has already produced destabilization in Europe. Participants expressed satisfaction that the people of Crimea have used their right of self-determination which resulted in reunification with Russia.

- Participants of the Conference expressed their full support to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia, including the resolution of the issue of Kosovo and Metohija in line with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. They supported the following requests: free, safe and dignified return of 250,000 expelled Serbs and other non-Albanians to their homes in Kosovo and Metohija; restitution of the usurped private, church, state and socially-owned property; reconstruction of 150 destroyed churches and monasteries of the Serbian Orthodox Church, of hundreds of desecrated and obliterated Serbian graveyards and thousands of burnt Serbian homes; conducting effective investigation of trafficking in human organs; determining the fate of all abducted and missing Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija; and identifying and bringing to justice the perpetrators of all other crimes committed against the Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija for which, so far, nobody has been found responsible, let alone convicted.

- Participants of the Conference welcomed worthy initiative of the UN General Assembly which proclaimed 2014 to be the international year of solidarity with the people of Palestine. Finding that this initiative deserves strong support of the peaceful forces in the world, the Conference sent requests for an immediate withdrawal of Israeli occupation forces from all Palestinian territories, for the establishment of independent state of Palestine, within the borders of July 1967 with East Jerusalem as its capital, for the right for the return for the Palestine refugees, based on UN Resolution 194 and the release of all Palestinian prisoners from jail. Fulfillment of these requests is of vital interest for the Palestinian people and for the introduction of a just and durable peace in the Middle East.

- Participants have expressed solidarity with peoples of Latin America in their endeavors to safeguard freedom, independence and sovereignty from aggressive imperial USA strategy. They demanding closing of Guantanamo base and abolishing blockade against Cuba, as well as the release of the five Cuban political prisoners from American jails.

- By dismissing the policies and actions that endanger the peace and security, participants of the Conference denounced plans and actions aimed at destabilizing the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. Coordinated violent actions in Caracas and other parts of Venezuela are parts of the strategy employed by the local oligarchs and external actors, intended to disable the functioning of the legitimately elected government and impose political changes of their choice but against the interests of the Venezuelan people, by sabotage, violent provocations and blackmails. In condemning those attempts, participants of the Conference expressed their solidarity with the Venezuelan people and the support for its courageous efforts to preserve the freedom, pride, and sovereignty of Venezuela, and to decide their own future.

- Participants have expressed concern over systematic organized revision of European history of the 20th century, particularly revision of outcome of the First and the Second World War. This may serve imperialist objectives for redrawing international borders causing unforeseen consequences. We condemn the western promoted rehabilitation of fascism and attempts to equate communism with Nazism.

- Participants of the Conference dedicated significant attention to the global economic capitalist crisis which has led not only to an unprecedented social stratification and impoverishment of the global population, but also to an artificially imposed debt crises in a number of formerly economically very prosperous countries, such as Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Cyprus. The global crisis emerged predominantly in countries which had declared themselves to be the centers of global civilization and the most advanced social order, one that will see no need for serous social conflicts and clashes. The key indicators of this crisis include mass-scale unemployment, especially within the youth, high indebtedness of countries, decline in economic activities, etc. We support the genuine popular protests against the above.

- It is obvious that on Europe and the majority of the world were imposed the neo-liberal cultural, political and economical pattern, which does not function. In the search for the way out of this universal deadlock, the most powerful countries are trying to shift the burden of the crisis onto other countries and nations, ones they pejoratively call "the global periphery", while in the meantime struggling to win the battle for the global prestige, and in the process stepping down onto the old civilizations and forcibly toppling the unsympathetic ruling regimes. All the above only add to the conflicting feature of the international arena, and makes it exceptionally prone to outbreaks of all types of conflicts, from internal and regional, to the global ones.

- Participants at the Conference noted with concern that there are still US forward-based infrastructures in Europe like missile defense, tactical nuclear weapons and conventional forces, that destabilize the regional and the global atmosphere.

- The global economic crisis cannot be resolved by the printing of ever new trillions of dollars and the makeshift mends of the existing system. This can be done by abandoning the neo-liberal concept and by developing a new, humane society of social justice, equality and the better life for all people and nations in the planet. The focus of the new system of social relations must be on people and their economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian needs, instead of the profits and self-serving interests of the so-called economical and political elites.

- A part this International Conference was the Youth Forum, which concluded that the global crisis, and globalization and interventionism primarily threaten the rights and perspectives of the young generations. In numerous countries, in Europe and the world, young people below 30 make up some 60% of the total number of unemployed. The youth requests urgent changes in the social relations and internationally, which will ensure active engagement of the young people into economic, political and societal trends, their assuming responsibility for their own future, at the national and international levels. The youth advocates the socially just society and universal human rights, such as the right to employment, free education, social security and health care. Young people advocate the democratization of international relations, the respect for the international law, and denounce the arms race, militarization and neocolonialism.

- Only a world free of dominance of imperialism and militarism will stand a chance to avoid a war cataclysm. The global economic crises and its consequences on popular strata underline the necessity to overcome the system which causes exploitation, wars and the misery. It is absolutely unacceptable and contrary to the international law to have the regional center of power, such as NATO and the European Union be established as a substitute to the United Nations Security Council.

- The only true international community is the United Nations, rather than any self-proclaimed members of any regional groups. We must struggle to ensure the universal character of the international law and to have it equally oblige big and small countries, developed and developing ones. We have to fight even more resolutely to preserve the civilization heritage such as the freedom, ethics and dignity, while determinedly rejecting all surrogates of the corporative capitalism and imperialism, planted by the military-industrial and finance capital.
Participants of the Conference emphasized that the accomplishment of these objectives required active engagement in mobilizing all peace-loving stakeholders, in order to counter and reject any military and conquest ambitions against any given country regardless of its leaders. In parallel, it is necessary to mobilize all forces in developing democratic international relations, based on the principles of the United Nations Charter, the provisions of the international law, and the strict observance of the inviolability and independence of all states and their territorial integrity, and the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs. Such a world would be measured by a human scale, and this grand utopia should be believed in, and persistently fighting for, and this is the key message from the Conference.

Participant in the Conference expressed sincere gratitude to the Serbian side for the excellent performance of the International Conference and for hospitality extended to all participants.
Belgrade, 23 March 2014
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Independent_Srpska wrote:NATO-murderers bombed Montenegrin village of Murino on April 30, 1999.
NATO-fascists killed 6 persons (3 kids - Julija Brudar (10), Olivera Maksimovic (13) and Miroslav Knezevic (13) )


Yes terrible.
But it still doesn't come close to the endless lists of civilians executed and dumped in massgraves by Serbs.
Hence, it's justified that when the same Serbian warcriminals were heading to a new race war, that somebody bombed them into submission.
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Maas wrote:
Yes terrible.
But it still doesn't come close to the endless lists of civilians executed and dumped in massgraves by Serbs.
Hence, it's justified that when the same Serbian warcriminals were heading to a new race war, that somebody bombed them into submission.


Oh, cmon, admit it you enjoy when you see dead Serbian kids...don't fool yourself, with these pathetic, false rhetoric...

However, let me prove you insane again:
1) NATO started aggression on Serbia in March 1999
2) These kids were murdered by your NATO people in April 1999...
3) "Mass-graves' you refer to - date no earlier than May 08, 1999, after NATO fueled the conflict

So, you see, your Nazi blood-thirst, and your idiotic theories are based only on shameful myths created by NATO-fascists.

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